Lancer (97-02 ) Pizza Pie Tambayan Thread

[m7zednalfs]

Hello po mga ka-pizza, may katanungan po ako...
I keep hearing rumors that some time soon all gasoline will have ethanol blended into them (E10) also, they say it is only recommended for EFI engines (since its sensors can adjust for the different burning properties of this fuel) and that the corrosive properties of ethanol has some bad effects on the carburetor, fuel lines and gas tank of older cars like my 97 Pizza carb

how true is this mga sir? TIA

[artpogi]

Hello po mga ka-pizza, may katanungan po ako...
I keep hearing rumors that some time soon all gasoline will have ethanol blended into them (E10) also, they say it is only recommended for EFI engines (since its sensors can adjust for the different burning properties of this fuel) and that the corrosive properties of ethanol has some bad effects on the carburetor, fuel lines and gas tank of older cars like my 97 Pizza carb

how true is this mga sir? TIA

I believe that "some time soon" you're referring to is still in the very, very distant future. Maybe when that time comes and all gasoline are e10 blended, baka na dispatsa mo na yang pizza mo.

so I wouldn't be too worried about that.

[ivan13]

tingin ko ok na muna yung mga ginawa mo sa engine. you really do not need a turbo + intercoolers unless you are into circuit racing. if you need more power, go for an engine swap, dun masarap yan lagyan ng turbo pag naka 2.0 cc or more ka na. if you will put in a turbo, you would need intercoolers, bigger brakes (lalo na if your brakes sa rear are still drum brakes).

salamat sa advice sir.. ano po kaya na engine pwede palit na 2.0 cc? yung mga pang evo? mga how much po kaya aabutin ng price? if di po ako mag engine swap, palit nalang po ako bigger brakes at lagay intercooler pero stock engine lang po tapos lagay turbo? ok kaya yun? besides sa turbo sir ano pa po pwede dagdag sa engine para dagdag power? thank you in advance..btw may strut bar narin po pala ito..

[mey0r]

good morning po mga sirs.. its nice to discover na meron pala "pizza pie" thread dito.. :D hirap kasi wala ako pwede pag tanungan dito sa iloilo kung ano pa po mga magandang pwede maidagdag ko sa 1998 lancer gsr(2 doors) ko po kasi mga kakilala ko puro honda sasakyan.. sa power po ano po pwede gawin para lalo tumulin lancer ko..? will post pics soon po para maishare ko naman po dito oto ko..

Nasa nagdadala ng manibela yan bro, di sa wheels. Kidding aside, GSR stock madanda na yan tumakbo. Yung sa kaopisna ko stock top speed nya 160kph 98 model din.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

ano po ba makina ng GSR?

[mey0r]

Hello, nice to see may forum na for lancer pizza. haiii meron na rin ako matatanungan at last. I have a lancer pizza GLXi A/T 97 model. all stock pa lang po. tanong ko lang po okey po ba yung nitrogen gas shocks???? kce po may tagas na ung front shock ko sa left, should i go for nitro shocks or buy a new shocks?

Tama yung sinabi ni 1D. Ang nitrogen gas need to be refilled every six months (recommended), tapos sasabayan mo na rin yan ng complete alignment (wheel/camber) kasi gagalawin yung shocks mo pag nag refill, mababago camber nyan.

Yung stock na fluid type and pwedeng iconvert. Lalagyan nila yan ng pito para dun ikarga. Pwede mo siyang gawing stiffer or malambot depende sa pressure nung nitro.

Refill costs 400 per pair ata. Yung initial conversion if Im not mistaken 1400-1800 ang range.

Kung gusto mo long-term na solution, but medyo mahal, palitan mo na lang ng bago, pair ata nasa 7K plus. Try calling El Dorado. Kung kulang sa budget, nitro refill will do, but hassle yung refill job twice a year, plus yung additional bayad mo pa sa wheel alignment, instead once a year, 2 beses mo na papagawa.

[mey0r]

thanks for the advice papi mey0r and papi asmdriskell. i would really be a better choice if magcacanvass po muna ako, and since papalitan ko na nga talaga ung front bumper, edi hanapan ko nalang ng front bumper na medyo may porma para iisang gastos nalang.ü

No problem bro.

Yep, hanap ka na lang. Delikado yun, baka di lang front bumpers may prob. Baka may iba pa na di mo nakikita sa physical attributes nung wheels.

[mey0r]

ano po ba makina ng GSR?

GSR is part of the 6th gen release ng lancer gamit ang 4G92 engine

[ivan13]

Nasa nagdadala ng manibela yan bro, di sa wheels. Kidding aside, GSR stock madanda na yan tumakbo. Yung sa kaopisna ko stock top speed nya 160kph 98 model din.

salamat sir.. siguro nga dahil magaan yung body ng mga 2 doors kaya maganda na takbo... :D

[ivan13]

Nasa nagdadala ng manibela yan bro, di sa wheels. Kidding aside, GSR stock madanda na yan tumakbo. Yung sa kaopisna ko stock top speed nya 160kph 98 model din.

GSR is part of the 6th gen release ng lancer gamit ang 4G92 engine

dami ko talaga natutunan dito sir.. laki talaga tulong nito sa mga noobs na katulad ko.. tawag ko dati sa engine ng gsr ko "cyclone engine" kasi may cyclone na pangalan sa cylinder head.. hehehe... 4G92 pala tawag sa mga katulad nito na engine..

[khulet]

thanks po 1D and meyor for the sugestion, i need a more budget for KYB it's too expensive. anyways thanks to gurus and more power to all pizza type !!! yahoo...

[khulet]

Hello mga ka pizza!!! ask ko lang po ano po maganda gamitin brand ng ATF?? Sa Engine oil I use Pertua, next ko na kce ATF i need a nice brand ng ATF..not totally nice brand but nice performance and purity po ng ATF..

[JJCarEnthusiast]

dami ko talaga natutunan dito sir.. laki talaga tulong nito sa mga noobs na katulad ko.. tawag ko dati sa engine ng gsr ko "cyclone engine" kasi may cyclone na pangalan sa cylinder head.. hehehe... 4G92 pala tawag sa mga katulad nito na engine..

ok 4g92 pala. ^4G92 is the code of just one engine. baka isipin mo 4G92 lahat nang engine na kamukha ng engine ng GSR.. hehehehe

[1D4LV]

salamat sa advice sir.. ano po kaya na engine pwede palit na 2.0 cc? yung mga pang evo? mga how much po kaya aabutin ng price? if di po ako mag engine swap, palit nalang po ako bigger brakes at lagay intercooler pero stock engine lang po tapos lagay turbo? ok kaya yun? besides sa turbo sir ano pa po pwede dagdag sa engine para dagdag power? thank you in advance..btw may strut bar narin po pala ito..

you dont need an intercooler without having a turbo. its useless. i think pwede dyan engine ng galant.

[1D4LV]

thanks po 1D and meyor for the sugestion, i need a more budget for KYB it's too expensive. anyways thanks to gurus and more power to all pizza type !!! yahoo...

KYBs the cheapers of the bunch. afaik, i've seen one adjustable gas shocks being sold for 7.5k each. and KYB lang is non-adjustable.

an alternative is conversion via Cruven/Zee. i think they can also convert gas shocks so that it could be refillable. cost for conversion, i think is 750 per shock. ok naman sya. in fact yung pizza ko has been using a cruven converted shock for four years. pinapa check ko lang yung pressure nya every year.

[1D4LV]

Hello mga ka pizza!!! ask ko lang po ano po maganda gamitin brand ng ATF?? Sa Engine oil I use Pertua, next ko na kce ATF i need a nice brand ng ATF..not totally nice brand but nice performance and purity po ng ATF..

i am using shell now. ok naman sya.

[m7zednalfs]

I believe that "some time soon" you're referring to is still in the very, very distant future. Maybe when that time comes and all gasoline are e10 blended, baka na dispatsa mo na yang pizza mo.

so I wouldn't be too worried about that.

apparently sir artpogi, the distant future is 2011... which worries me because I just got my Pizza.

http://abs-cbnnews.com/video/busines...t-your-vehicle

possible ba magpaconvert ng EFI ang carb pizza?

[1D4LV]

apparently sir artpogi, the distant future is 2011... which worries me because I just got my Pizza.

http://abs-cbnnews.com/video/busines...t-your-vehicle

possible ba magpaconvert ng EFI ang carb pizza?

if you have no choice except to use e10 on your pizza, i would be worried more on the gas tank than on the cars and the fuel lines.

e10 is more corrosive on cork and certain rubbers found on old time carburators. but new carbs contain neoprene, which resists the corrosive properties of ethanol.

ethanol can eat the coating on most gas tanks, so if it cannot be avoided, the gas tank should be coated with a corrosive resistant material like polyetheline.

i had tried using E10 on my pizza siguro more than ten times. what my mechanic did was to advance the timing a few steps, and it went fine. you just need to change your fuel filter more frequently. dahil as my experience, mas mabilis sya dumumi.

converting your carburated engine to a fuel injected engine will take lots of steps, and lots of money. you need a computer box (ecu), a MAF sensor, o2 sensors, harnesses, etc.

[khulet]

Thanks 1D4LV for your suggestion, before my plan is to convert it to nitro gas shocks, kaso nag tanong tanong po ako sa mga barkada ko naka nitro shocks mahirap din sa maintenance at bigla sumisingaw po. salamat po sa turo niyo, malamang po ay palitan ko na lang shocks na KYB, mahal po pala KYB ung AGB nila... tungkol naman po sa E10 delikado po ba talaga yun sa gas tanks at gas lines ??? worried po pati ako un po kce gamit ko sa pizza ko ngaun GLXi A/T po... ano po ba pwede mangyari pag E10 ang gamit???

[1D4LV]

Thanks 1D4LV for your suggestion, before my plan is to convert it to nitro gas shocks, kaso nag tanong tanong po ako sa mga barkada ko naka nitro shocks mahirap din sa maintenance at bigla sumisingaw po. salamat po sa turo niyo, malamang po ay palitan ko na lang shocks na KYB, mahal po pala KYB ung AGB nila... tungkol naman po sa E10 delikado po ba talaga yun sa gas tanks at gas lines ??? worried po pati ako un po kce gamit ko sa pizza ko ngaun GLXi A/T po... ano po ba pwede mangyari pag E10 ang gamit???

i think the glxi variant can use e10 without any effects (except for the fuel tank effect, which is still not proven).

on the shocks, if you can afford it, go for the adjustable gas shock option, kaya lang it costs 7k each. matibay yun. but if you cannot, you have two options, the cruven route or the kyb route. but definitely, gas shocks are more durable than fluid ones. baka isolated case yung sa barkada mo.