Bye Bye Mitsubishi

[eVo-XTreme]

Originally posted by benchph1
evo-extreme:

that is the newly developed 4G18 engine. mitsu paired it with a CVT tranny that supposedly saps less crank horsepower. making almost of all those 110 ps reach the wheels. unlike conventional transmissions which saps 20-25% of the crank hp...

conventional Tranny
- 115 crank hp - 20% = 92 wheel horsepower

CVT
- 110 crank hp - 10% = 99 wheel horsepower

btw afaik the 2000 lancer with a 4g92 engine makes at least 124 ps.

uhmmm... so does it mean that the newly developed 4G18 engine is much better than our 2000 model lancer? and what does a crank hp mean? medyo kulang ako sa mga technical terms when it comes to cars kasi, hehe! ^_^

[benchph1]

well no one develops a new product that is inferior to the one it replaces lets just say that the 4G18 is more efficient than the 4G92.

crank hp is the total horsepower the engine produces at the crankshaft. some of that horsepower is lost when it is transferred from the crankshaft, through the transmission and finally at the wheels. like i said power loss is 20%

[yebo]

hindi bibigay yan mitsubishi, kaya nga go ahead pa din sila sa pagtayo ng plant sa pinas kahit nag-pull out na ang chrysler eh. re-org lang sila, lipat nila plant nila sa pinas para maging profitable, lower cost kasi dito. yung plant nila na itayo sa pinas for export halos lahat. o di someone elses misfortune (yun mawalan ng work sa japan) is someone elses good luck (workers ng pinas). weather-weather lang yan hehehe!

[yebo]

comparing invecsII and invecs III...

di ba may lock-up ang invecs II tranny? i'm asking ha i am not making a statement. ang alam ko kasi may lock-up ang invecs II kaya pag nasa overdrive na (4th gear) then mabilis na takbo ng car, the tranny locks with the crankshaft and same as manual tranny na ang power flow, by-passed na ang hydramatic. kaya nga pag highway driving ko abot ako ng 17km/l mileage kasi naka-lock up ang tranny most of the time.

so if this is so, then lamang lang ang invecs III sa II pag nasa low gears kasi walang slippage. pero pag dating sa overdrive parehas na sila.

nagtatanong po.

[eVo-XTreme]

Originally posted by benchph1
well no one develops a new product that is inferior to the one it replaces lets just say that the 4G18 is more efficient than the 4G92.

crank hp is the total horsepower the engine produces at the crankshaft. some of that horsepower is lost when it is transferred from the crankshaft, through the transmission and finally at the wheels. like i said power loss is 20%

ok thanks! anyway... nakapag test drive na kasi ako ng bagong lancer sa da fort last time and its really fun to drive because of the 6-speed sportronic automatic transmission... di nga lang ok para sakin yung bagong engine... my uncle owns a 2004 lancer in the states pero 2.0 (120*5500 hp) ang engine nya... meron kayang lalabas na ganun dito? ^_^

[pajerokid]

On a totally off topic note, ANG POGI NG 2004 LANCER!

[109]

will somebody save mitsu? i know someone out there is doing some careful studies....

this maybe the right moment for bill gates....
or the walmart clan.....or perhaps the lauders..
....

might as well call this an oportune time for edie gil :D

[ssaloon]

Mitsubishi gets $4 bln bailout

[eVo-XTreme]

Originally posted by pajerokid
On a totally off topic note, ANG POGI NG 2004 LANCER!

Hahaha! I agree pajerokid!!! Para na syang mini EVO VIII kaya ang porma ng dating...

[dbulido]

Dapat yan Mitsubishi huminigi ng tulong kay Eddie Gil hehehehehe...... Kayang kaya nya bayaran utang nyan.

[tagalnasaabroad]

to be fair, mitsubishi is no peanuts;

it's a conglomerate of a name spanning the whole world with mammoth investments to boot;

it can bailout mitsubishi motors in-house without the need for outsiders;

dont forget it's a japanese household name and it sure is a part of "corporate japan";

some even say japanese economy is no. 1 in the world if one can only have an inside look who owns whom in terms of stocks of those Fortune 500s corporate names in the US of A..

could be true..

[wheelieboi]

Yung 2004 Lancer i like din! hehehe better than the previous one. Yung new adventure lang di ko type. Parang alien. )


sabi sa news there are plans to make the phils the hub for suv assembly para sa asia.... hmmm

[don]

cgurado ako pag nilabas ng mitsu ung MIVEC engines nila mas lalo cla mkabawi ng sales. puro luma kasing engines ang kinakabit nla sa mga unit e ayaw ilagay ung mga new tech tulad ng MIVEC e 1998 pa ata un ni release sa japan. I heard n ung 1.6 MIVEC develop daw 170hp at ung 2.0 ay 200hp.

[ssaloon]

yup totoo yan don! sibak ang B16 pag dating sa stock (MIVEC) vs stock (VTEC) sa 1.6L engine.

[boybi]

ganyan naman talaga ang Mitsu phils. ayaw nilang i-retire mga grandfather engines nila, baka meron sentimental value sa kanila

[theveed]

I honestly doubt that Mitsu can even compete with Hyundai in the US, nobody buys Mitsu in the US despite aggressive price cuts and interest rates... The quality and reputation is quite low for a Japanese maker.

[don]

tama k dun kc ung nkakabit n 4g18 engine now dun s new lancer alam ko 1980s p un. kelan kya magigising ung mga utak ng mga taga mitsu d2 sa atin sinasayang nila mga development nla. tok tok tok jan sa mga taga mitsu sana ilabas nyo na ung MIVEC.

[eVo-XTreme]

I've read this article on the Inquirer a while ago...

"Yoichiro Okazaki, chairman of Mitsubishi Motors Corp., apologizes to the families of the two people who had died in 2002 accidents suspected of being linked to defects of Mitsubishi vehicles. The ailing Japanese automaker will close a car assembly plant in Japan, trim 22 percent of its global workforce and revive sales under a new US$4-billion plan."

...pooooor mitsu! Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!!! Baka mamaya mawala na ang Mitsubishi sa listahan ng mga automakers!!! Hehe... pano na yung EVO na pinapangarap ko!? ^_^

[ssaloon]

the successor of the EVO 8 (evo9) will be the last evo produced as per an article i read way back. they will discontinue the line na ata eh.

[badkuk]

....or....baka me balak cna Mr. Sy or Mr. Gokongwei...e.g.

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