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    Mitsubishi unveiled the fourth generation Outlander a few weeks back. At the time, they went into great detail about its new design and features. However, they didn't show off everything, namely the full specifications.

    Now, the Japanese automaker has published those figures. So this begs the question, are the specs good enough? Let's take revisit the Outlander and take a closer look at its specs.



    First, the size. The redesigned Outlander measures 4709 mm long, 1862 mm wide, 1748 tall, with a wheelbase of 2705 mm. For comparison, the current model (albeit in PHEV form) is 4,695 mm long, 1,800 mm wide, 1,710 mm tall, with a wheelbase of 2670 mm.

    These measurements make the Outlander one of the longest vehicles in its segment. Most of its competitors hover around the 4,600 mm range. For instance, the Toyota RAV4 is exactly 4,600 mm, while the Honda CR-V is at 4,623 mm. The Outlander's closest competitor in terms of length is the Subaru Forester, but it's still far behind Mitsubishi's length at 4,625 mm. So far, so good.


    According to Mitsubishi, one of the reasons for its size is to make way for third-row seats. It's an option for most variants, at least in the U.S. With seven seats seen as an advantage these days, it could be said that this was a wise move on Mitsubishi's part. It's not alone in its class though since the Honda CR-V and current Nissan X-Trail have them as well. Given its length, there might be a little bit more room in the Mitsubishi.



    Now, for the engine. When the all-new Outlander debuted, Mitsubishi didn't publish horsepower and torque figures. We only know that it uses a 2.5-liter, four-cylinder engine, and that's about it. Now, Mitsubishi released the numbers. It's 181 PS and 245 Nm of torque. If the power figure looks familiar, that's because it's the same one used in the Nissan Rogue, also known as the next-generation Nissan X-Trail. Like the Rogue/X-Trail, the engine is paired to a continuously variable transmission.

    The only crossover in its class that surpasses it is the Toyota RAV4. It also uses a 2.5-liter engine, but it puts out 203 PS, over 20 more than the Mitsubishi. However, the RAV4 makes a little less torque than the Outlander at 243 Nm. That said, the engine in the Outlander is for the U.S spec model, and a 2.0-liter mill will likely join the range in international markets.



    But the question now is this: Will it be offered in the Philippines? Mitsubishi is assigned as the Alliance's leader for the Southeast Asia market, so that boosts its chances somewhat. However, it might be tricky given that the Montero Sport also has three-row seating and has the advantage of size. Still, the specs look promising, and there's always room for another three-row crossover in the Philippines.



    Baby Montero Sport? Anyone?

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    Sa pinas, ilang taon bago makarating ang ikatlong henerasyon ng outlander.

    Eto pa kaya. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Sa pinas, ilang taon bago makarating ang ikatlong henerasyon ng outlander.

    Eto pa kaya. Lol
    baka 2024-2029 pa dating satin nito knowing MMPC.. basta may new gen na lumabas it takes more than a year or two for local release..Sana di na sila ganyan katulad ng dati. Hopes as well for an earlier release kasi
    Mitsubishi is assigned as the Alliance's leader for the Southeast Asia market, so that boosts its chances somewhat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    baka 2024-2029 pa dating satin nito knowing MMPC.. basta may new gen na lumabas it takes more than a year or two for local release..Sana di na sila ganyan katulad ng dati. Hopes as well for an earlier release kasi
    Tapos ang mahal pa eh, mga 3 million amp. Sa ganung presyo pwede na mag ford explorer yung iba or honda pilot. Parehas pang mas malaki kaysa outlander.

    Ok sana kung mga nasa 2-2.5m mark lang pero sinabi din kasi na yung nissan na counterpart daw gagawing mas mura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Tapos ang mahal pa eh, mga 3 million amp. Sa ganung presyo pwede na mag ford explorer yung iba or honda pilot. Parehas pang mas malaki kaysa outlander.

    Ok sana kung mga nasa 2-2.5m mark lang pero sinabi din kasi na yung nissan na counterpart daw gagawing mas mura.
    PHEV Outlander lang kasi yung binebenta ng MMPC dito sa atin, kaya pricing parang mid-sized crossovers na. Wala na yatang gasoline powered na outgoing model na outlander na binebenta. Sana they will price it well when this come to our shores. Hopes as the pricing will be the same with other gas-fed compact crossovers like the toyota rav4 and subaru forester. Kung CBU Japan itong all new Outlander this will be qualified for JPEPA. Probably CBU parin ito sa Japan.

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    Covered lang ng JPEPA kung bigger engine displacement (3.0L or bigger). As per global news, the engine option will be the same as the 2.5L NA used on the Xtrail.


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    Actually following the strict wording of JPEPA excludes most engines classified as 3.0li. The text of the agreement kasi specifically states "for vehicles of cylinder capacity exceeding 3,000 cc.", meaning it has to be greater than 3,000cc.

    But in the automotive world 3.0li means a max of 3000cc rather than a minimum, so engines will actually be slightly smaller. i.e. 2,979cc for the BMW N55, or 2,997cc for the Toyota 2JZ. Nangyari is JPEPA doesn't apply. To be safe you really want the car to be specified as 3.1li or above to be included.

    Sauce: https://legacy.senate.gov.ph/publica...0assesment.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Covered lang ng JPEPA kung bigger engine displacement (3.0L or bigger). As per global news, the engine option will be the same as the 2.5L NA used on the Xtrail.


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    If Mitsubishi use their 3.0L MIVEC V6 from the older Outlander model, the V6 Outlander maybe JPEPA qualified. For now it's the QR25 engine from the X-Trail/Rogue.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Actually following the strict wording of JPEPA excludes most engines classified as 3.0li. The text of the agreement kasi specifically states "for vehicles of cylinder capacity exceeding 3,000 cc.", meaning it has to be greater than 3,000cc.

    But in the automotive world 3.0li means a max of 3000cc rather than a minimum, so engines will actually be slightly smaller. i.e. 2,979cc for the BMW N55, or 2,997cc for the Toyota 2JZ. Nangyari is JPEPA doesn't apply. To be safe you really want the car to be specified as 3.1li or above to be included.

    Sauce: https://legacy.senate.gov.ph/publica...0assesment.pdf
    i thought 2.5L-up engines ang qualified, 3.0L -up displacement engines pala for JPEPA. Thanks for clarification about JPEPA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Actually following the strict wording of JPEPA excludes most engines classified as 3.0li. The text of the agreement kasi specifically states "for vehicles of cylinder capacity exceeding 3,000 cc.", meaning it has to be greater than 3,000cc.

    But in the automotive world 3.0li means a max of 3000cc rather than a minimum, so engines will actually be slightly smaller. i.e. 2,979cc for the BMW N55, or 2,997cc for the Toyota 2JZ. Nangyari is JPEPA doesn't apply. To be safe you really want the car to be specified as 3.1li or above to be included.

    Sauce: https://legacy.senate.gov.ph/publica...0assesment.pdf
    Yup. Kung ginawa lang na at least 2500cc and above for the exemption pero hinde. Kaya ang mahal ng prado diesel kumpara dun sa gas version eh. Another example is the rav4 2.5 totl compared to fj cruiser na 4.0 v6. Then yang 3.0 gr supra na 5 million petot. Ewan ko ba pero imho, ang korny gamitin na basis ang engine displacement to influence local srp sa mga brand new japan cbus, lalo na kung premium ang models like lc family and others. I mean ang laki ng patong compared sa pricing ng same models na meron sa ibang bansa. Tas yung offered dito satin usually iilang variants lang na di pa kompleto ang features, despite the higher price. Pero when you take a look at other japan cbus that are more simple like the nv350 urvan na 2.5 diesel, hindi naman oa ang pricing nun unless pasok siya sa ibang exemption na similar which i'm not aware. Well, despite that di parin covered ang new outlander neto in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    PHEV Outlander lang kasi yung binebenta ng MMPC dito sa atin, kaya pricing parang mid-sized crossovers na. Wala na yatang gasoline powered na outgoing model na outlander na binebenta. Sana they will price it well when this come to our shores. Hopes as the pricing will be the same with other gas-fed compact crossovers like the toyota rav4 and subaru forester. Kung CBU Japan itong all new Outlander this will be qualified for JPEPA. Probably CBU parin ito sa Japan.
    Oo pero sayang ginawa ng mmpc sa outlander. Dapat noon pa nila dinala kasi wala silang pantapat sa mga cr-v, rav4, etc. Katwiran nila ang benta daw kasi ng montero. Ngayong lumabas na siya rito last year, ang pajero naman ang mawawala. Still, who will buy this at 3 million over bigger suvs with similar pricing.

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