2016 Mitsubishi Montero

[boybit]

best way to determine if timing chain any vehcile is to see if the main engine fan is powered by the engine itself parang hydrothermal generator. but if it's electrical powered like electric fan, naka timing belt

Auxiliary or mechanical fan has nothing to do with the timing type of the engine. It has something to do withe positon of the engine. Most car engine that is inlineor position from front to back of the car has mechanical fan and positoned left to right or termed "balagbag" are auxiliary fan. Inline wngine are mostly rwd and balagbag are fwd. i have several cars that is fwd runs on timing chain like tucson carens elantra timing helts on mazda 323, lancer while rwd on timing belt like strada innova l300. And there are also timing chain and gear or even pushrod on rwd. The isuzu mux . Nissan eagle. Isuzu elf.kia kc 2700 and hino. Soon monty 2016. Among all the timing Type. The belt is the quietest. But the earliest to be replace. 100000km required on most manufacturers. Then comes the timing chain. But a liitle longer than belt depend on the quality of oil you use. It gets noisy after sometime. The timing gears are almost in destructible but the engine will be heavy.

[boybit]

Mas malimig at mas tumatagal lang aircon pag timing chain kasi engine napatakbo sa main fan


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It has also nothing to do with the aircon. Generally the aircon performance is basebon the compressor . Evaporator and consenser. The condenser are usually located in front of radiator. For linear positioned engine the mechanical fan is always on while the engine is running. And some condenser are have extra aux electrical fan when aircon is turned on. Aux fan have more maintenance than mechanical fan.

[mokong22]

Mas matibay nga yung timing chain. Tiisin mo naman ang ingay ng 100k kms hehe. Bat yung fort timing chain pero tahimik naman.

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[boybit]

Mas matibay nga yung timing chain. Tiisin mo naman ang ingay ng 100k kms hehe. Bat yung fort timing chain pero tahimik naman.

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Basically if mainfay ang timing chain but negligible na sa modern design engine. Mastahimik ang 4n15 sa 4d56. Advantge od timing chain is mas matibay mas compact ang design. Sa noise naman though maingay ang chain na iinsulated man ang noise sa loob ng engine nakasealed sya . Kasama sya sa circulation ng oil. Mas maingay pa ang mechanical valves and cam. Kaya d rin pansin unless na maluwag na chain mo after sometime. Sa belt naman umiingay kaagad pag may defect na yun tensioner or bearings. Mas less maintenance ang chain. Masmalaki ang damage ng timing chain if it broke. Sa belt you can do just overhauling the engine head. But sa chain overvhaul andcrebuild lahat.

[boybit]

Ang 4n15 ba ng monty may egr pa din? Thought with introduction of mivecs replaces the egr for Nox production

[boybit]

Ang 4n15 ba ng monty may egr pa din? Thought with introduction of mivecs replaces the egr for lesser Nox production

[desertst0rm]

Ang 4n15 ba ng monty may egr pa din? Thought with introduction of mivecs replaces the egr for lesser Nox production

Yung mga Truck, Bus at Jeep wala naman DPF, DEP, EGR at Catalytic Converter pero nakakapasa pa rin sa emission. Pag nilagyan ang mga yan siguradong sira agad.

[Walter]

The montero handles the best among the SUVs (MUX, Fort, just a tad better than the Everest). Almost a month after, I still think that way. I now see/feel some minor quibbles but no regrets so far.

Maybe you mean the Montero Sport has the best ride comfort ... it's not the best in handling ... vehicle handling is a different thing altogether from ride comfort ... vehicles with soft suspensions rarely have good handling characteristics ...

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I really meant best in handling among all SUVs I've test driven (MU-X, Fortuner, Everest). Of course Montero is not the best in handling among cars, any sedan will be better. The Fiesta, Mazda 3, etc definitely handles better.

I am not comparing the Montero to a sedan in terms of handling and expect it to be better...

Ride comfort is another matter.. something that I also discussed in my other post. I said it is closer to my preferred "feel", softer than a Fortuner (I know some folks preferred stiffer, I don't as I rarely go off road)

So yeah, I know the difference between handling and ride comfort... clear na po?

Maybe you mean the Montero Sport has the best ride comfort ... it's not the best in handling ... vehicle handling is a different thing altogether from ride comfort ... vehicles with soft suspensions rarely have good handling characteristics ...

[moniac108]

May ask lang ako yung Monty ko pag initial na arangkada mabagal then when you step on the accltr pa more saka bibilis na hirap naman magpreno kung may trapik light na susunod hehe.


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[Janemar]

May ask lang ako yung Monty ko pag initial na arangkada mabagal then when you step on the accltr pa more saka bibilis na hirap naman magpreno kung may trapik light na susunod hehe.


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Normal yan sir.

[Janemar]

Ang 4n15 ba ng monty may egr pa din? Thought with introduction of mivecs replaces the egr for Nox production

Yes, meron pa ring EGR. Sa ibang bansa, euro 5 na monty 4n15, may DPF na.

MIVEC, as explained sa article, main purpose is binaba nila compression ratio ng engine para maka pag aluminum engine block sila sa 4n15 then binawi na lang sa mivec para maretain ang same or higher power output kahit na mababa comp. ratio.

Also, vacuum type pa ang VGT actuator ng monty...

[moniac108]

Maiba ako base sa measurement ko mga 10 km per liter ako sa FC gls premium that is reset ang travel meter every time nag full tank automatic. Turbo diesel gamit mga 4 times ko ng ginagawa. [emoji16]


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Glad to hear that di ko pa kasi ginamit sa mahabang biyahe na maraming overtake. Pano na kaya pag ganun may tip ba para di bitin sa overtake? Galing kasi ako sa innova diesel na manual transmission. Curious lang po sa automatic kaya?


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[boybit]

I really meant best in handling among all SUVs I've test driven (MU-X, Fortuner, Everest). Of course Montero is not the best in handling among cars, any sedan will be better. The Fiesta, Mazda 3, etc definitely handles better.

I am not comparing the Montero to a sedan in terms of handling and expect it to be better...

Ride comfort is another matter.. something that I also discussed in my other post. I said it is closer to my preferred "feel", softer than a Fortuner (I know some folks preferred stiffer, I don't as I rarely go off road)

So yeah, I know the difference between handling and ride comfort... clear na po?

Actually mas need ang hard suspension for cornering at soft pag lubaklubak.
Btw tomorrow na labas ng unit ko. Pwede ko kaya sya magamit out of town this week. Ilan days ba palugit

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Actually mas need ang hard suspension for cornering at soft pag lubaklubak.
Btw tomorrow na labas ng unit ko. Pwede ko kaya sya magamit out of town this week. Ilan days ba palugit

exactly! for me montero got that right mix, handles well (for a tall SUV) but the suspension is not too stiff. The Everest is a very close second.

congrats, enjoy your new car. wala na palugit, technically. LTO said you are only allowed to take the car on the road from dealership to place of residence on the day of purchase.

But that didn't stop me using the car. I thought wala naman siguro manghuhuli sa probinsya (Laguna and Alabang). Just be cautious, drive only on familiar roads.

It took exactly 3 weeks for us to get the or/cr (from the unit released date).

[batmobile]

Same dilema tayo sir almost a year ago when I was shopping for suv. Swerte mo nga ngaun laki na ng discount sa monty, free tint lang binibigay sa akin nuon kahit cash buyer ako.

Anyway, ano ba priority? Overall space? Engine power?
Fuel economy? Handling? Ride Comfort? Safety? Looks?

Yes, given priority, suggest ko test drive ka ng prospect suv mo. Libre lang naman yun, sama mo buong family at kalikutin nyo lahat ng features ng oto and see for yourself.

The interior design of monty is luxurious since parang sportscar or luxury car and dating. Ito siguro ang target theme ng designers and engineers when they build it. Some buyers love it and some buyers hate it.

Some SUV interior design naman is utilitarian, napaka daming cubby holes, pockets, and compartments, mini storage, holders, etc. pero walang "dating or touch of class/elegance?" Again, some will love it and some dont.

Depends on individual's wants and needs. Compromise.

On my experience, interior space priority ko and safety given my xx amount of budget. Nasikipan kami ng family and imagine 30min. test drive pa lang yun what if pag nag 6-10hours road trip na kami. So pass na for us.

Catch is, as mentioned ala pang discount nun. Baka given the 100-200k discount that they have now... Hmmmm.... Mapapaisip ka (or ako) talaga at mag tiis ganda/gwapo na lang.. Hehe..

I wouldn't call it priority... Siguro the better term is minimum requirement... Both the monty and fort meet my minimum requirements on looks, reliability and engine power... The question is if the monty meets my minimum requirement in terms of space. So kailangan ng test drive. For the fort naman, it doesn't really meet my minimum requirement when it comes to the ride, but it seems that this can be addressed via suspension upgrade. Appealing yung mga features ng monty, but some of these could be added to the fort later thru upgrades.

By the way, what SUV did you end up buying?

[JJB]

I wouldn't call it priority... Siguro the better term is minimum requirement... Both the monty and fort meet my minimum requirements on looks, reliability and engine power... The question is if the monty meets my minimum requirement in terms of space. So kailangan ng test drive. For the fort naman, it doesn't really meet my minimum requirement when it comes to the ride, but it seems that this can be addressed via suspension upgrade. Appealing yung mga features ng monty, but some of these could be added to the fort later thru upgrades.

By the way, what SUV did you end up buying?

Just an advice re the fort's suspension. I tried upgrading my 05 fort's suspension before with old man emu or rancho ( i forgot already which one) and improved the rolide just a little bit. Maximum is 10% na. Wasnt actually worth the upgrade with the benefit to price ratio. So if you hate the ride at first, it might not go away ever. Just my 2 cents. Hth


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[boybit]

My unit will be release tomorrow.after a month of waiting. My first choice color was not given. Instead of gray or brown i got silver. Actually i find monteros interior smallest aming ppv's the driver side legroom is narrow. I own 2.5 mux and its much wider in term of cargo. Legroom . But i felt not enough power. I chose monty because of its power as well as its capable of running 4x4 fulltime. Which only everest can match. But i dont like american car. And also the discount of 262k . Made the deal seal. The 4x2 matic right now has max discount of 150 k which was 200 k last december.

[boybit]

exactly! for me montero got that right mix, handles well (for a tall SUV) but the suspension is not too stiff. The Everest is a very close second.

congrats, enjoy your new car. wala na palugit, technically. LTO said you are only allowed to take the car on the road from dealership to place of residence on the day of purchase.

But that didn't stop me using the car. I thought wala naman siguro manghuhuli sa probinsya (Laguna and Alabang). Just be cautious, drive only on familiar roads.

It took exactly 3 weeks for us to get the or/cr (from the unit released date).

Actually sanayan lang. what is your previous car that made you compare that this has smaller interior. . My mux is more comfortable especially if im a passenger interms of legroom and suspension. Functionality of dash board like top compartment for storing toll tickets . Cup holder on ac vent works like a refrigeration on my drinks . Suspension Not too soft and not too hard. Extra monitor at the back for kids. Despite this montero is fun to drive. Too many toys. Great engine power. Futuristic design. And its 4x4 which . I can go to places that is not ridable by 4x2.

[Walter]

I really meant best in handling among all SUVs I've test driven (MU-X, Fortuner, Everest). Of course Montero is not the best in handling among cars, any sedan will be better. The Fiesta, Mazda 3, etc definitely handles better.

I am not comparing the Montero to a sedan in terms of handling and expect it to be better...

Ride comfort is another matter.. something that I also discussed in my other post. I said it is closer to my preferred "feel", softer than a Fortuner (I know some folks preferred stiffer, I don't as I rarely go off road)

So yeah, I know the difference between handling and ride comfort... clear na po?

What is crystal clear is that you probably have no idea what handling is about ... a softly tuned suspension on a tall SUV handling better than one with a stiffer suspension? ... Seriously?