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    Looking to replace our old window type Condura 1hp non inverter with the same model (newer version, I think), but basically the same. However, I'm contemplating if I will replace it with a Hitachi inverter RA-10HVQ, costs almost 30k compared to Condura's 18-19k. Our usage during weekdays is from 9pm to 7am, on weekends, holidays or no work, is the same except she turns it on again around 10-12nn and 2-5pm to counter the hotness of the day. My main concern is the cooling capability of the inverter. My wife's used to the quick cooling of the former and we have no experience on inverter type, I'm worried that it might not cool our room fast enough.

    In paper specs, the Hitachi trumps the Condura in all aspects like cooling capacity, consumption, design, (noise level?) etc. I always pitch to her the energy savings of the inverter, but I can't vouch for the fast cooling of it. Baka hinde maging "happy wife happy life" dahil matagal lumamig yung room. Also if I will go Hitachi, there's a few cms of cutting on the height dimension, so additional isipin pa yun to clean the entire room because of the dust.

    Should I gamble on Hitachi or stay with Condura and forget about the "perceived" power savings based on our usage.

    Please chime in. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugoys View Post
    Looking to replace our old window type Condura 1hp non inverter with the same model (newer version, I think), but basically the same. However, I'm contemplating if I will replace it with a Hitachi inverter RA-10HVQ, costs almost 30k compared to Condura's 18-19k. Our usage during weekdays is from 9pm to 7am, on weekends, holidays or no work, is the same except she turns it on again around 10-12nn and 2-5pm to counter the hotness of the day. My main concern is the cooling capability of the inverter. My wife's used to the quick cooling of the former and we have no experience on inverter type, I'm worried that it might not cool our room fast enough.

    In paper specs, the Hitachi trumps the Condura in all aspects like cooling capacity, consumption, design, (noise level?) etc. I always pitch to her the energy savings of the inverter, but I can't vouch for the fast cooling of it. Baka hinde maging "happy wife happy life" dahil matagal lumamig yung room. Also if I will go Hitachi, there's a few cms of cutting on the height dimension, so additional isipin pa yun to clean the entire room because of the dust.

    Should I gamble on Hitachi or stay with Condura and forget about the "perceived" power savings based on our usage.

    Please chime in. Thank you.
    Quote Originally Posted by bugoys View Post
    Looking to replace our old window type Condura 1hp non inverter with the same model (newer version, I think), but basically the same. However, I'm contemplating if I will replace it with a Hitachi inverter RA-10HVQ, costs almost 30k compared to Condura's 18-19k. Our usage during weekdays is from 9pm to 7am, on weekends, holidays or no work, is the same except she turns it on again around 10-12nn and 2-5pm to counter the hotness of the day. My main concern is the cooling capability of the inverter. My wife's used to the quick cooling of the former and we have no experience on inverter type, I'm worried that it might not cool our room fast enough.

    In paper specs, the Hitachi trumps the Condura in all aspects like cooling capacity, consumption, design, (noise level?) etc. I always pitch to her the energy savings of the inverter, but I can't vouch for the fast cooling of it. Baka hinde maging "happy wife happy life" dahil matagal lumamig yung room. Also if I will go Hitachi, there's a few cms of cutting on the height dimension, so additional isipin pa yun to clean the entire room because of the dust.

    Should I gamble on Hitachi or stay with Condura and forget about the "perceived" power savings based on our usage.

    Please chime in. Thank you.
    Go Hitachi inverter. It's way way better than other brands, if not the best, now. Worth the mounting tweak.
    Inverters, in general, won't be as quick cooling as their old school counterparts. This we've experimented between 2 Panasonics of same capacity installed side by side. The non-inverter in that room is used for start up cooling. The inverter to maintain the desired temp.
    Or...why not add a Hitachi inverter to your existing Condura? 2 is greater than 1.[emoji4]
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    Quote Originally Posted by bugoys View Post
    Looking to replace our old window type Condura 1hp non inverter with the same model (newer version, I think), but basically the same. However, I'm contemplating if I will replace it with a Hitachi inverter RA-10HVQ, costs almost 30k compared to Condura's 18-19k. Our usage during weekdays is from 9pm to 7am, on weekends, holidays or no work, is the same except she turns it on again around 10-12nn and 2-5pm to counter the hotness of the day. My main concern is the cooling capability of the inverter. My wife's used to the quick cooling of the former and we have no experience on inverter type, I'm worried that it might not cool our room fast enough.

    In paper specs, the Hitachi trumps the Condura in all aspects like cooling capacity, consumption, design, (noise level?) etc. I always pitch to her the energy savings of the inverter, but I can't vouch for the fast cooling of it. Baka hinde maging "happy wife happy life" dahil matagal lumamig yung room. Also if I will go Hitachi, there's a few cms of cutting on the height dimension, so additional isipin pa yun to clean the entire room because of the dust.

    Should I gamble on Hitachi or stay with Condura and forget about the "perceived" power savings based on our usage.

    Please chime in. Thank you.
    I have the same model hitachi inverter but the 0.75 HP variant for almost 2 yrs now, bught it last July 2022.
    It is still working fine and has no problem so far.

    Make sure lang na marunong yung taga linis mo.
    When my unit was first cleaned after 1 yr of use, we noticed that after 3 months, we heard running water noises inside the aircon.
    Parang napuno ng water yung inside ng aircon but hindi naman nagleleak inside ng room since naka tilt naman ng maayos ang unit.
    Mawala siya after ma cleaned up na naman ng taga linis.
    Hindi din affected yung cooling performance.

    When I found out the proper way of cleaning inverter, which is dapat i remove almost all parts related to inverter technology, naghanap na ako ng ibang tagalinis na marunong talaga.
    Yung unang tagalinis, hindi lahat na dismantle niya at madali lang din siyang matapos mag linis.

    I found someone na marunong talaga from dismantling the needed part before cleaning up.

    Ngayon super OK na, wala na kaming narining na running water noise inside the aircon.
    I highly recommend this brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    I have the same model hitachi inverter but the 0.75 HP variant for almost 2 yrs now, bught it last July 2022.
    It is still working fine and has no problem so far.

    Make sure lang na marunong yung taga linis mo.
    When my unit was first cleaned after 1 yr of use, we noticed that after 3 months, we heard running water noises inside the aircon.
    Parang napuno ng water yung inside ng aircon but hindi naman nagleleak inside ng room since naka tilt naman ng maayos ang unit.
    Mawala siya after ma cleaned up na naman ng taga linis.
    Hindi din affected yung cooling performance.

    When I found out the proper way of cleaning inverter, which is dapat i remove almost all parts related to inverter technology, naghanap na ako ng ibang tagalinis na marunong talaga.
    Yung unang tagalinis, hindi lahat na dismantle niya at madali lang din siyang matapos mag linis.

    I found someone na marunong talaga from dismantling the needed part before cleaning up.

    Ngayon super OK na, wala na kaming narining na running water noise inside the aircon.
    I highly recommend this brand.
    now this is strange.
    what's with the inverter type, that makes it different from the traditional type, servicing-wise?
    Last edited by dr. d; June 15th, 2022 at 01:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    now this is strange.
    what's with the inverter type, that makes it different from the traditional type, servicing-wise?
    May part na nakakabit sa area ng compressor na dapat tinatanggal including the part in the evaporator din.
    Parang na dismantle lahat ng part ng aircon nung time na yon.

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    Get the LG Inverter window type.. sa Anson's they can give it to you for 27K..

    Comes with an app for filter / electric consumption monitoring.. and based on my computation.. it consumes less than 2 pesos per hour.. last 3 months namin is consistent.. 800 pesos per month for around 12 to 14 hours per day..

    medyo iba lang ang size nya.. hindi standard size...


    Quote Originally Posted by bugoys View Post
    Looking to replace our old window type Condura 1hp non inverter with the same model (newer version, I think), but basically the same. However, I'm contemplating if I will replace it with a Hitachi inverter RA-10HVQ, costs almost 30k compared to Condura's 18-19k. Our usage during weekdays is from 9pm to 7am, on weekends, holidays or no work, is the same except she turns it on again around 10-12nn and 2-5pm to counter the hotness of the day. My main concern is the cooling capability of the inverter. My wife's used to the quick cooling of the former and we have no experience on inverter type, I'm worried that it might not cool our room fast enough.

    In paper specs, the Hitachi trumps the Condura in all aspects like cooling capacity, consumption, design, (noise level?) etc. I always pitch to her the energy savings of the inverter, but I can't vouch for the fast cooling of it. Baka hinde maging "happy wife happy life" dahil matagal lumamig yung room. Also if I will go Hitachi, there's a few cms of cutting on the height dimension, so additional isipin pa yun to clean the entire room because of the dust.

    Should I gamble on Hitachi or stay with Condura and forget about the "perceived" power savings based on our usage.

    Please chime in. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    Get the LG Inverter window type.. sa Anson's they can give it to you for 27K..

    Comes with an app for filter / electric consumption monitoring.. and based on my computation.. it consumes less than 2 pesos per hour.. last 3 months namin is consistent.. 800 pesos per month for around 12 to 14 hours per day..

    medyo iba lang ang size nya.. hindi standard size...
    i wonder,
    how do these consumption figures compare with those of the equivalent non-inverter type?

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    Our old Carrier 1HP was consuming around 8 pesos per hour.. so from 3K+ a month, it is down to 800 a month now..

    here's the LG app pala that shows how many kWh, this one shows the month of May.. you can see daily as well..




    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i wonder,
    how do these consumption figures compare with those of the equivalent non-inverter type?

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    Almost same price lang sir ng split type. Hindi sira mura.
    Maybe because bago pa sa market at iilang brand pa lang ang miron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishcom View Post
    Almost same price lang sir ng split type. Hindi sira mura.
    Maybe because bago pa sa market at iilang brand pa lang ang miron.
    Hindi sya almost, mas mahal pa rin kumpara sa split type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumusut_Amige View Post
    Hindi sya almost, mas mahal pa rin kumpara sa split type.
    Almost same sila kasi may installation fee pa ang split type. Minsan mas mahal pa dahil sa copper tube. Kung sa unit it self yun mas mahal talaga ang window type inverter. Hindi naman pwede self install ang split type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumusut_Amige View Post
    Hindi sya almost, mas mahal pa rin kumpara sa split type.
    Yung recent visit ko sa Mega Mall, parang mas mura na ang window type inverter.

    Kolin 1hp window type inverter ay Php25K na lang. Salpak na lang yan ang walang installation fee kung kakasya sa existing butas nyo. Mejo malaki kasi ang units na ito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishcom View Post
    Almost same price lang sir ng split type. Hindi sira mura.
    Maybe because bago pa sa market at iilang brand pa lang ang miron.
    Which is why i opted first for a conventional window type Panasonic for one of the rooms in our place. Tutal it won't be used as much yet and i'll just get a window type inverter once the pricing and selection for one becomes more mainstream.

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    Yes, at its current pricing, you are just paying forward your savings in electricity, much like the hybrid cars. Whereas before you benefit from the gas savings from hybrid cars after 5 years, it is much longer now because gas has come down from 50s to 40s. Just like electricity rates, so payback of inverter types take longer. Pano kung bumigay before the payback?

    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Which is why i opted first for a conventional window type Panasonic for one of the rooms in our place. Tutal it won't be used as much yet and i'll just get a window type inverter once the pricing and selection for one becomes more mainstream.

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    Yes, at its current pricing, you are just paying forward your savings in electricity, much like the hybrid cars. Whereas before you benefit from the gas savings from hybrid cars after 5 years, it is much longer now because gas has come down from 50s to 40s. Just like electricity rates, so payback of inverter types take longer. Pano kung bumigay before the payback?

    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Which is why i opted first for a conventional window type Panasonic for one of the rooms in our place. Tutal it won't be used as much yet and i'll just get a window type inverter once the pricing and selection for one becomes more mainstream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maki mi View Post
    Yes, at its current pricing, you are just paying forward your savings in electricity, much like the hybrid cars. Whereas before you benefit from the gas savings from hybrid cars after 5 years, it is much longer now because gas has come down from 50s to 40s. Just like electricity rates, so payback of inverter types take longer. Pano kung bumigay before the payback?
    Previous bill ko non inverter aircon.. 1hp 8 hours per day on weekdays--- and 8hours per day din on weekdends-- umaabot ng 7-8.5kper month

    With an inverter aircon 1.5hp min. 12hours on weekdays and almost 24hours on weekends meralco bill ko nasa 4.3.4.6k Lang per month...

    Savings ko nasa 3.5k din per month...

    In a year Lang bawi ko na... Pinag bile ko sa aircon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maki mi View Post
    Yes, at its current pricing, you are just paying forward your savings in electricity, much like the hybrid cars. Whereas before you benefit from the gas savings from hybrid cars after 5 years, it is much longer now because gas has come down from 50s to 40s. Just like electricity rates, so payback of inverter types take longer. Pano kung bumigay before the payback?
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Previous bill ko non inverter aircon.. 1hp 8 hours per day on weekdays--- and 8hours per day din on weekdends-- umaabot ng 7-8.5kper month

    With an inverter aircon 1.5hp min. 12hours on weekdays and almost 24hours on weekends meralco bill ko nasa 4.3.4.6k Lang per month...

    Savings ko nasa 3.5k din per month...

    In a year Lang bawi ko na... Pinag bile ko sa aircon...
    Payback is quicker because the AC is used more often. You also have to consider the condition of the previous A/C. With our house before, i replaced an old .75hp window type (non inverter) with a new .75hp (non inverter) so these were both with the same spec but with the new one in use at night the electricity bill still went down considerably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Previous bill ko non inverter aircon.. 1hp 8 hours per day on weekdays--- and 8hours per day din on weekdends-- umaabot ng 7-8.5kper month

    With an inverter aircon 1.5hp min. 12hours on weekdays and almost 24hours on weekends meralco bill ko nasa 4.3.4.6k Lang per month...

    Savings ko nasa 3.5k din per month...

    In a year Lang bawi ko na... Pinag bile ko sa aircon...
    Boss glenn, ano brand ng air con niyo?

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    Masarap matulog pag inverter. Kaya kung pag bedroom. Even mahal. Get inverter. Makaka save ka na sa power, ok pa tulog mo,

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