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    mga tsikooters po na magaling sa history tanong ko lang po kung sino naka discover ng philippines kasi nag tatalo po kami ng mga frieds ko kung sino talaga naka discover dito sabi ko sa kanila si magellan sabi nila ay hindi daw kaya nag debate kami tungkol dun kasi yun yung turo sa akin ng teacher ko eh,,help naman po t.y i try searching the net puro lumalabas po is si magellan ibig sabihin po ba nun ay panalo ako sa debate or may correction din po doon sa belief ko?

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    According to Wiki
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines

    History

    Main article: History of the Philippines
    Archeological and paleontological discoveries show that Homo sapiens existed in Palawan circa 50,000 BC. The Negritos, an Australo-Melanesian people, arrived in the Philippines at least 30,000 years ago.[9] The Malayo-Polynesian-speaking peoples, the ancestors of most Filipinos, settled in the Philippines about 2,500 BC.
    The Philippines had cultural and trade relations with India, China, and Islamic merchants as early as the 9th century before the arrival of the Europeans in the 16th century.
    At the service of Spain, Portuguese explorer Ferdinand Magellan and his crew were the first Europeans to arrive in the archipelago in March 1521. Magellan was later killed in battle by indigenous warriors in Mactan Island on account of political conflicts with Lapu-Lapu. The beginnings of colonization started to take form when King Philip II of Spain (after whom the Philippines was named) ordered a successive expedition. The conquistador, Miguel López de Legazpi arrived from Mexico in 1565 and formed the first Spanish settlements in Cebu. In 1571 he established Manila as the capital of the new Spanish colony.[10]
    Spanish rule brought political unification to an archipelago of previously independent islands and communities that later became the Philippines, and introduced elements of western civilization such as the code of law, printing and the calendar[11]. The Philippines was ruled as a territory of New Spain from 1565 to 1821, before it was administered directly from Madrid. During that time new crops and livestock were introduced, and trade flourished. The Manila Galleon which linked Manila to Acapulco travelled once or twice a year, beginning in the late 16th century. The Spanish military fought off various indigenous revolts and several external colonial challenges, specially from the British, Chinese pirates, Dutch, and Portuguese. Roman Catholic missionaries converted most of the inhabitants to Christianity, and founded the first schools, universities and hospitals. In 1863 a Spanish decree introduced public education, creating free public schooling in Spanish [12].
    A propaganda movement, which included Philippine nationalist José Rizal, then a student studying in Spain, soon developed on the Spanish mainland. This was done in order to inform the government of the injustices of the administration in the Philippines as well as the abuses of the friars. In the 1880s and the 1890s, the propagandists clamored for political and social reforms, which included demands for greater representation in Spain. Unable to gain the reforms, Rizal returned to the country, and pushed for the reforms locally. Rizal was subsequently arrested, tried, and executed for treason on December 30, 1896. Earlier that year, the Katipunan, led by Andrés Bonifacio, had already started a revolution, which was eventually continued by Emilio Aguinaldo, who established a revolutionary government, although the Spanish governor general Fernando Primo de Rivera proclaimed the revolution over in May 17, 1897.[1] [not in citation given]
    The Spanish-American War began in Cuba in 1898 and soon reached the Philippines when Commodore George Dewey defeated the Spanish squadron at Manila Bay. Aguinaldo declared the independence of the Philippines on June 12, 1898, and was proclaimed head of state. As a result of its defeat in the War, Spain ceded the Philippines, together with Cuba (made an independent country, the US in charge of foreign affairs), Guam and Puerto Rico to the United States. In 1899 the First Philippine Republic was proclaimed in Malolos, Bulacan but was later dissolved by the US forces, leading to the Philippine-American War between the United States and the Philippine revolutionaries, which continued the violence of the previous years. The US proclaimed the war ended when Aguinaldo was captured by American troops on March 23, 1901, but the struggle continued until 1913 claiming the lives of over a million Filipinos[13] [14]. The country's status as a territory changed when it became the Commonwealth of the Philippines in 1935, which provided for more self-governance. Plans for increasing independence over the next decade were interrupted during World War II when Japan invaded and occupied the islands. After the Japanese were defeated in 1945, the Philippines was granted independence from the United States on July 4, 1946.[15]
    Since 1946, the newly independent Philippine state has faced political instability with various rebel groups. The late 1960s and early 1970s saw economic development that was second in Asia, next to Japan. Ferdinand Marcos was, then, the elected president. Barred from seeking a third term, Marcos declared martial law on September 21, 1972 and ruled the country by decree. Marcos extended both his power and tenure by force. His authoritarian rule became marred with unmitigated, pervasive corruption, cronyism and despotism.

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    The Negritos would be it unless it can be proven another ethnic group arrived before they did.

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    Ang kasagutan ay makukuha ninyo pag dinownload ninyo ang kanta ni Yoyoy Villame na "Magellan"

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    Read Constantino's book it makes more sense than other historians.

    Pag Western Historian ang magsasabi si Magellan ang nagfound. Kay Constantino ang mga native people natin ang nag found (di ko nga lang matandaan kung Ita or Negrito ang ginamit nyang term doon).

    Kung gusto mo ng additional sources, visit Prof. Bernard Karganilla's office at UP Manila at interviewhin mo sya. Approachable naman iyon at matulungin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikaztro View Post
    Ang kasagutan ay makukuha ninyo pag dinownload ninyo ang kanta ni Yoyoy Villame na "Magellan"

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    long before magellan came, early filipino's were already trading with nearby lands. if not the malays, the chinese...

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    from yahoo:

    The "first" Filipinos were really the Aetas (aborigines) who crossed through land bridges and inhabit the Philippine Islands. In a way, they were the first to discover this beautiful country.

    Other immigrants who followed were the Chinese, Indonesians and Malays who became full time settlers.

    It was a Ferdinand Magellan who re-discovered the Philippines and named it after the Spanish monarch, King Philip II whom he served and funded his expedition.

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    Magellan discovered the Philippines for western nation,kasi hindi pa nila alam.sa asia alam na nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikaztro View Post
    Ang kasagutan ay makukuha ninyo pag dinownload ninyo ang kanta ni Yoyoy Villame na "Magellan"
    Title: Magellan
    Album:
    Artist: Yoyoy Villame

    On March 16, 1521
    When Philippines was discovered by Magellan
    They were sailing day and night across the big ocean
    Until they saw a small Limasawa island

    Magellan landed in Limasawa at noon
    The people met him very welcome on the shore
    They did not understand the speaking they have done
    Because Kastila gid at Waray-Waray man

    When Magellan landed in Cebu City
    Rajah Humabon met him, they were very happy
    All people were baptized and built the church of Christ
    And that’s the beginning of our Catholic life

    When Magellan visited in Mactan
    To christianize them everyone
    But Lapu-Lapu met him on the shore
    and drive Magellan to go back home

    Then Magellan got so mad
    Ordered his men to camouflage
    “Mactan island we could not grab
    ‘Cause Lapu Lapu is very hard”

    Then the battle began at dawn
    Bolos and spears versus guns and cannons
    When Magellan was hit on his neck
    He stumble down and cried and cried

    Oh, mother mother I am sick
    Call the doctor very quick
    Doctor, doctor shall I die?
    Tell my mama do not cry
    Tell my mama do not cry
    Tell my mama do not cry

    That’s the end of Magellan
    in the island of Mactan long time ago
    ladies and gentlemen



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    discover-discover na yan kabullsh1tan lang yan eh

    iyan eh sa european point of view lang na sila ang unang europeans na nakarating dito. daw.. debatable pa nga rin yan kung sila nga ang 1st european/s.

    kung yung portion ng moon let say cave sa moon na di pa talaga inhabited na discover nila ay may punto silang sabihing sila ang nag discover.

    tingin nila sa mga unang naninirahan dito noon sa philippines ay di tao kaya sila ang unang naka discobre dito. huh. what the f*ck!!!

    dapat alisin na yan sa school eh.. maling mali yan.
    dapat "FIRST EUROPEAN"

    how about chinese, lalong lalo na malaysian and/or indonesians na katabi lang mismo natin?

    anyway ano ba significance ang discover-discover na yan for us?. nothing!

    "CAN ANYONE PLEASE POST WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE."

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    Taong Tabon?

    Nauna daw sila sa mga negritos eh...

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    discovered = who knows?

    first european = Magellan

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    Backed by historians, they can claim that they’re the one considered as discoverer. But behind that, it’s not the spices or land that they were zeroing during those times but golds and treasures the can be brought back to their kings. Pwehhhh! Dangan lang at nauto nila mga mang mang na rajahs natin. Thanks to their ever reliable weapon – RELIGION

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTO View Post
    Backed by historians, they can claim that they’re the one considered as discoverer. But behind that, it’s not the spices or land that they were zeroing during those times but golds and treasures the can be brought back to their kings. Pwehhhh! Dangan lang at nauto nila mga mang mang na rajahs natin. Thanks to their ever reliable weapon – RELIGION
    bulls eye bro... +1 me.

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    Si Yoyoy naka diskubre at wala ng iba. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikaztro View Post
    Si Yoyoy naka diskubre at wala ng iba. :D
    Ha?.. si yoyoy ba?... kala ko sya yung tumudas kay lapu lapu...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adventure View Post
    mga tsikooters po na magaling sa history tanong ko lang po kung sino naka discover ng philippines kasi nag tatalo po kami ng mga frieds ko kung sino talaga naka discover dito sabi ko sa kanila si magellan sabi nila ay hindi daw kaya nag debate kami tungkol dun kasi yun yung turo sa akin ng teacher ko eh,,help naman po t.y i try searching the net puro lumalabas po is si magellan ibig sabihin po ba nun ay panalo ako sa debate or may correction din po doon sa belief ko?
    The negritos was here long before Magellan came to the island. The only reason that Magellen claim to be first discovered this island(what is now called Philippines) is just because that time Philippines is not on the map during those days. He introduce this island as a "new world" like Cristopher Columbos that discovered North America. They are the NAVIGATOR to navigate the world to seek other inhabitants.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Homer View Post
    Ha?.. si yoyoy ba?... kala ko sya yung tumudas kay lapu lapu...
    Kusinero ang tumudas kay Lapu-Lapu

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    Quote Originally Posted by v6dreamer View Post
    The negritos was here long before Magellan came to the island. The only reason that Magellen claim to be first discovered this island(what is now called Philippines) is just because that time Philippines is not on the map during those days. He introduce this island as a "new world" like Cristopher Columbos that discovered North America. They are the NAVIGATOR to navigate the world to seek other inhabitants.
    ayon at natumbok kung bakit si magellan ang tinataguriang nag tuklas nitong bansa natin. Siya pala ang kauna-unahanh tao na naglagay ng pinas sa MAP !!!!!. di kaya arabs ba yun o chinese map na nila ang pinas bago pa ang europeans?

    so di magkalayo yun sa land grabbing sa atin. kung sino yung makaunang makapagtitulo sa lupa kahit may naninirahan na doon long-long time before them eh sila pa rin yung nagmayari. huh. tsskk.. tsskk.

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    thank you po ngayon mas nalinawan na ako thank you po sa mga info's niyo

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