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  1. Join Date
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    #18411
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Exactly. Yan yung di ko magets - ayaw ng mga tao sa divorce pero ok lang annulment. Eh it does the exact same thing, but costs much more so it's inaccessible to poor people, who are often the victims of abusive marriages.

    And to have an annulment you basically have to say that your spouse is a psycopath, so much so that the marriage was void because he was psychologically incapacitated. Kailangan mong sabihing siraulo asawa mo para lang mawalang bisa yung kasal.

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    Mapipilitan pa magsinungaling yung iba.

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    #18412
    Quote Originally Posted by sean-archer View Post
    I think meron version naman na valid ang marriage from the start, then nag fail na lang eventually. I'm not sure, gotta review the family code.

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    Legal separation yata yan. Hindi rin yata pwede magpakasal yun mga legally separated.


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    #18413
    Quote Originally Posted by falken View Post
    Mapipilitan pa magsinungaling yung iba.

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    Yung friend ko naka 400K na sa gastos, wala pa din finality.

    Ayun he and the wife colluded na lang, ma-grant lang ang annulment nila.

    Ang malaking BS pa dito eh how money and corrupted yung proseso.

    Pag wala kang pera wala ka na pag asa.


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    #18414
    ^well we should pay for our mistakes nga naman eh. hehe


    Meron kasi marriages na void (not valid from the beginning) and voidable lang. Medyo madami yan.

    Special privision lang Art 36 regarding physcological incapacity as basis for annulment. Ito kasi yung very subjective if you have money to burn. Yung ibang grounds for annulment kasi obvious kaya hindi nagagamit ng gusto lang maghiwalay kahit ang dahilan lang eh mababaw.

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    #18415
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    If you read the law on marriage, marerealize mo na pwede mangyari yan.

    What if fake/conuterfetied pala CENOMAR or Marriage License ni lalaki/babae. Sa mga baryo-baryo nakakalusot mga yan eh. Yung shotgun wedding na nabanggit nangyayari rin.

    Parang ordinary contract, kung may pangloloko sa pagkuha ng consent, eh talaga naman sa umpisa pa lang dapat void na ang contrata diba. Dapat bayaran ka sa nagastos mo sa umpisa pa lang pati interest from the time na nagawa ang contract kasi ang injury mo eh dun nag-umpisa, hindi sa time na nalaman mo lang na niloko ka.

    I hope persons knowledgeable sa business eh maintindihan ang analogy na yan. Remember, marriage is a special contract. Special, pero contract pa din. At least for civil purposes which yun naman pinag-uusapan dito diba.
    Ok those reasons are probably making sense if we are equating marriage to business contract.

    But what if reasons are hinde na magkasundo Magasawa? Nagkaroon ng Third party.

    How can annulment make sense instead of divorce? Walang marriage from the start dahil on their 20th year of marriage nag loko yun isang party?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Which is to be honest is BS. Nagsama na yun Couple for long years and nagkaroon na ng anak and all.

    Tapos not capable pala kahit na After all of those years Eh Magasawa sila? Ano yun artista sila?

    Do you need to be annulled pa ba pag underage yun isang party? Illegal yun diba?


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    Sa mga panahon ngayon, folks with money just make up a lot of reasons to state they were psychologically incapable on the onset of marriage. They don't care what really happened back then only what they can prove in court (thru money). Umoobra lang ito sa mga artista at may pera, pahirapan sa ordinaryong tao.

    On the matter regarding legal age, it is illegal for underage people to get into marriage as they are not yet legally capable to agree into a contract. Puwede pa kasuhan ng abuse of a minor yung other party.

    If you check into our civil code, you can check into the details of both annulment and legal separation. I think one other ground is that couples who cannot consummate (no **ual activity) their marriage in the span of a year can be annulled.

    However, mayrun span para mag-file ka ata for annulment. There is a something written that couples living as man and wife for 5 years or more (even those who have not have a marriage license and contract) are considered legally married already.

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    #18417
    how does this all gender restrooms work? frowned upon ba ang mga straight gumamit nito?

    mabilis pa naman mag turn over ng bladder ko kaya baka masigawan pa ako kung mapa emergency ako dito

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    #18418
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    how does this all gender restrooms work? frowned upon ba ang mga straight gumamit nito?

    mabilis pa naman mag turn over ng bladder ko kaya baka masigawan pa ako kung mapa emergency ako dito
    Basta hinde pa putol pwede sila. Pag putol na doon na sila sa kabila. [emoji23]


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    #18419
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ok those reasons are probably making sense if we are equating marriage to business contract.

    But what if reasons are hinde na magkasundo Magasawa? Nagkaroon ng Third party.

    How can annulment make sense instead of divorce? Walang marriage from the start dahil on their 20th year of marriage nag loko yun isang party?


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    That is why annulment is used kasi yun nga lang option currently.

    The grounds for annulment of marriage are the following: lack of parental consent, unsoundness of the mind, marriage through fraud, force, intimidation or undue influence, physical incapacity of either party to consummate the marriage, and affliction of ***ually transmissible disease found to be serious and incurable (Article 45, Family Code of the Philippines).
    On the other hand, a petition for declaration of nullity should be filed in case of void marriages. The grounds for declaration of nullity of marriage are the following: lack of capacity of either or both of the parties, lack of authority of solemnizing officer, lack of marriage license, bigamous or polygamous marriage, contracted through mistake of one on the identity of the other, void marriage under Article 53 of the Family Code (Article 35, id.), psychological incapacity of either or both parties (Article 36), incestuous marriages (Article 37), and void marriages by reason of public policy (Article 38). Hence, your marriage may be terminated only if any of the aforementioned grounds is present.

    Malinaw sa mga yan na Art.36 or psychological incapacity lang kasi pwede maging contestable sa court. The rest are clear cut and hindi mo madadaya if proper investigation is to be conducted.

    Kaya your point na may divorce dapat is true as far as the other 22 grounds are now approved by the House of Representative.

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    #18420
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    tutong-free?
    Any teflon coated rice cooker from a good brand can do that ...

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