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  1. Join Date
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    It seems that more and more stuff are pirated nowadays. Be it software, video games, fashion items, car parts, etc.

    It is hard for anyone to honestly say that they did not in one way or another actually purchase or even make use of pirated stuff.

    Well the country is not exactly a rich country. Some would contend that it is okay to buy orig software for example if they actually priced it according to region.

    It is a broad subject and we are told it is a crime. Yet it is everywhere. And it continues to thrive due to its many patrons.

    Do you think it is bad? Or is it actually good?

    Do you think there are quality issues? Are we entitled to these products even if we do not pay the owner of the rights.

    What is your position on this problematic issue?

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    pirates are pirates, you only fool yourself in making others believe that you are capable of purchasing branded goods whereas in reality they are knock offs.

    if you dont have the money to buy expensive goods, stick to your budget and buy low cost original products, wait for sales, if you think they are too expensive.

    am i guilty? yes i do, in buying dvd, however, i try to limit it, i am gulity of downloading from limewire as well...but lately i make friends through some forums and let them share their audio CD, which i think are more legal=)

    OT: dont be caught in entering United States with your pirated stuff, photocopied books, fake bags, shoes and other thing as you will be subjected to deportation.

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    I used to think it was ok until I created something of my own which I wanted to sell. Now if somebody just copied it and himself made money, I would've wanted a piece of it because it is my creation. If I continue to get paid, I will continue to improve the product, or fund research to come out with new products as well.

    It's that or I give it away for free. At which point it becomes a hobby and I will have to do something else to make money.

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    Buying Pirated stuff is bad. Selling them them is like your a thief. There is a Karma to that. Supporting pirated stuff will loose a lot of jobs from orig companies.

    O.T. Is sharing one bottomless ice tea considered stealing?

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    come to think of it "PIRATED" ay masama talaga.

    so sa totoo lang ang tanong eh bakit we are buying it?

    makakatid ba o makakalamang?

    for sure karamihan ay sasagot ng dahil sa makakatid... kasi tingnan mo nga lang ang deprensya sa presyo ng di pirated sa pirated.

    but the truth of the matter is, pareho din yun ang kalabasan nun, without us realizing na panglalamang din lahat yun.

    well, kung tututusin eh trabaho ng gobyerno yung pagsugpo ng nga gawaing yun.

    ang matinding tanong can we really avoid buying pirated stuff?

    tingnan mo na lang ha?.. mula sa cd, vdv, tshirt at ang dami pa... chekin mo lahat ng nabili mo, "ilang ba ang pirated dyan?" tsskk.. tsskk.. ako eh karamihan yung cd/dvd.

    mayron pa akong na bili na fake item binayaran ko ng mahal pero fake pala (pirated in disguise). i realized it ng macompare ko sa orig yung item ko... karma na yata to. hehehe. sabi ko sa sarili ko buti pa tahasang bumili na lang sana ako ng pirated eh di pa sana ako naisahan.

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    ang masasabi ko eh hindi ako bumibili ng pirated stuff. kahit vcd o dvd. kung mahal ang presyo eh nag iipon ako o kaya eh nag iintay ako ng sale. kasi dito sa bansa ni hitler eh malimit mag sale sa mga store. malimit umaabot ng 50% OFF kaya ok na ok. me mga werbung naman na ipinapadala sa bawat wohnung bago pa mag sale kaya dapat eh magrequest na agad ng off sa araw na yun he he he . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejr View Post
    ang masasabi ko eh hindi ako bumibili ng pirated stuff. kahit vcd o dvd. kung mahal ang presyo eh nag iipon ako o kaya eh nag iintay ako ng sale. kasi dito sa bansa ni hitler eh malimit mag sale sa mga store. malimit umaabot ng 50% OFF kaya ok na ok. me mga werbung naman na ipinapadala sa bawat wohnung bago pa mag sale kaya dapat eh magrequest na agad ng off sa araw na yun he he he . . .
    iyun na nga eh sa bansang europa, usa at canada tagalang pinapatupad doon ang batas. naliban sa istrekto sila eh karamihan pa sa kanila eh maganda income at masunurin. ang pagka di masunurin sa batas ay mostly dala ng kahirapan eh kaya no wonder marami dito sa atin ang gumagawa ng taliwas sa batas dahil to survive ika nga. pati na doon sa countries na may depression dala ng kahirapan and lack of education.

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    Yung mga t-shirt ba na nabibili sa Juan Luna sa Divisoria ay fake, o talagang nagagawa nilang mas mababa ang presyo kumpara sa mga mall dahil mas maliit operating expenses nila?

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    i'm guilty in buying fake dvd's

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    Ang view ko d2, of course its stealing.

    Pero sa tingin ko napo-provoke ang mga buyers dahil un product d talaga intended locally at gawa sa ibang bansa kaya ang tendency kung d2 bibilin eh mahal talaga.

    It started with audio CDs d ba? Sobrang mahal dati dahil d naman d2 gawa. Naun may mga gumagawa na d2(actuall pressing) nagsisimula ng bumaba price at kung ako mas prefered ko na as compared sa quality ng mga pirated.

    Sa mga softwares(incl games), hangat d sila nag pe-press d2, 2loy2x pa rin nilang poproblemahin piracy. Kapag nag press kasi sila sa ibang bansa, ang pag benta nila nun para sa market nun bansa na un, eh iba market d2(incl other 3rd world countrs). Kelan kaya nila mare-realize un? Like MS. Dapat they should release an OS na d2 gagawin para sa Phil market.

    So applicable na cguro ito sa kahit anong product. Un mga multinational brands, kung gusto nila pumasok satin, put a factory here. Mas maibaba nila ang price para mabawasan mag attempt na i pirate pa sila.

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    There is one good thing about piracy.

    It's exposed the ridiculous over-pricing in the music industry. I can fathom paying 3000-5000 pesos for a game that cost millions to develop... or 1000 pesos for a DVD (If I really like a movie, I buy an original DVD copy... just as a "tip" for the director and producer... ;) ...but 500 bucks for a record album? Considering about 250 - 300 of that 500 bucks covers the cost difference of the CD to the taped version?

    And considering that CDs actually cost much less to produce than tapes?

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    But supporting piracy is wrong. File-sharing for private use, personally, is a gray area. If you want to share a file or movie with your friends, it's just the same as lending them your DVD for a weekend. But for someone to make a profit off of someone else's work?

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    what i think of pirated stuff? Illegal yan...

    palagay ko yung mga recording companies din nagpasimula niyan para makatipid sila sa bayad sa mga singers. O di kaya nag-join na sila as pirates. Bihira na rin kasi bumibili sa mga record bars.

    sa mga software companies naman especially MS, gusto din nila ipa-pirate software nila para maraming gumamit. then pag-sanay na saka sila magsasabing i-license niyo niyan para kumita kami....

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    It gives income to our Muslim Brothers that are victims of religious discrimination

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    it's illegal but i'm guilty sa pagbili ng mga dibidis minsan kse nalalampasan ko panoorin sa sinehan dahil sa sobrang busy, so antay na lang ako ng malinaw na copy kina suki para mapanood ko sa bahay...dito kse sa pinas, after ipalabas ng movie, mga 5-10months pa bago ilabas ung original DVD copy, kina suki ata mga 3 months or less...well, mali pa din yung ginagawa ko

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    i know it's illegal. but i think original dvds are too expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    There is one good thing about piracy.

    It's exposed the ridiculous over-pricing in the music industry. I can fathom paying 3000-5000 pesos for a game that cost millions to develop... or 1000 pesos for a DVD (If I really like a movie, I buy an original DVD copy... just as a "tip" for the director and producer... ;) ...but 500 bucks for a record album? Considering about 250 - 300 of that 500 bucks covers the cost difference of the CD to the taped version?

    And considering that CDs actually cost much less to produce than tapes?

    ------

    But supporting piracy is wrong. File-sharing for private use, personally, is a gray area. If you want to share a file or movie with your friends, it's just the same as lending them your DVD for a weekend. But for someone to make a profit off of someone else's work?
    i agree. not to mention the fact that many artists would make one or two good songs, fill the rest of the CD with garbage, and sell it for $15. i'm personally thankful that the music industry's business model has changed as a result (especially to the download-and-pay-per-song model - very convenient!)

    Quote Originally Posted by MAXBUWAYA View Post
    It gives income to our Muslim Brothers that are victims of religious discrimination
    :rofl01:

    Quote Originally Posted by uwak18 View Post
    O.T. Is sharing one bottomless ice tea considered stealing?
    that's a little much - i think that more restaurants need to think about not nickel-and-diming their customers...but i know it happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearhead View Post
    It seems that more and more stuff are pirated nowadays. Be it software, video games, fashion items, car parts, etc.

    It is hard for anyone to honestly say that they did not in one way or another actually purchase or even make use of pirated stuff.

    Well the country is not exactly a rich country. Some would contend that it is okay to buy orig software for example if they actually priced it according to region.

    It is a broad subject and we are told it is a crime. Yet it is everywhere. And it continues to thrive due to its many patrons.

    Do you think it is bad? Or is it actually good?

    Do you think there are quality issues? Are we entitled to these products even if we do not pay the owner of the rights.

    What is your position on this problematic issue?
    I'm as guilty as everyone else especially when I was younger. I used to bootleg software for the Commodore Amiga and saw firsthand what happened when developers decided to abandon a platform (because of rampant piracy). I learned a bitter lesson there. So now, I buy all my software and/or stick to open-source, public domain ones.

    DVD's...... I generally avoid pirated movies/shows. However when I rent a movie from Blockbuster, I do make an xVid copy before returning the DVD.

    Music...... No need for pirating music. Whatever music gets streamed on the internet is good enough for me. I'm no audiophile, not even close. Plus, I record/edit my own mp3 music from the music section of our DirectTV.

    Most other stuff..... Nah. I'm not into status symbols. So, little-known brand names are fine for me: $20 sneakers, $5 watches, Walmart shirts/pants, Hyundai car, etc........ I travel a lot too like now (I'm here in Atlanta after visiting Europe). Having less brand-name stuff means less chances of them being stolen----> except laptops. It doesn't matter what brand name a laptop is. People will steal them no matter what brand.

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    bakit yung "pirated" na gasolina, ang mahal pa rin?

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    huwag natin tangkilikin ito. pumapatay kasi ng mga legal na negosyo. kung kayo ang negosyante gusto nyo ba ito?

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    guilty here!!!! :hang: pero DVDs lang hehehe

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