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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    isa pa yan di lang sa labada, pati yun pag-shower dami nauubos sa water supply natin pag say 10,000 to 100,000 ang magbababike. tapos pag naaksidente, mas magastos. i'm sure magmamahal din ang insurance ng mga tsikot pag may bike lane kasi mas malaki ang damage ng insurance companies pag aksidente

    at this day and age, bikes are a thing of the past. there is a reason why Henry Ford invented the autmobile in the late 1800's to replace bikes. and there is a reason why horses were replaced by bikes. ibig sabihin they are phased out.

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    kung gusto nyo bike lane, i-lobby nyo na kagad sa congress dun sa Clark and Sta Rosa and other special economic zones para magkarun kagad ng planning. dito kasi sa Manila para unrealistic eh, parang nag-green kuno lng para mapansin lang ba. o nakaranas ng konti relief sa pawis sa pagbaba-bike eh kelangan eh yun na ang tama. hello, i perspire in the gym everyday, I am more fit than those bikers who climb sierra madre with their SUVs and bike rack and MTB as bike gears.

    imagine para lang pumayat, halos P100,000K+ na nagastos , eh sa gym la pang 20K / month. tapos wala din nman pumapayat kasi hindi naman talaga effective ang weekend biking. exercise and getting fit cannot be resolved during free times and weekends. living healthy is a lifestyle.
    kaya naman weekend biking. i bike only on weekends. freetime and weekends lang naman makaka work out, it all boils down to intensity of the training, i dont even mind what i eat

    yung 100k one time gastos lang naman yun. yung 20k per month mo bawi na ng 100k bike in 6mos

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    isa pa yan di lang sa labada, pati yun pag-shower dami nauubos sa water supply natin pag say 10,000 to 100,000 ang magbababike. tapos pag naaksidente, mas magastos. i'm sure magmamahal din ang insurance ng mga tsikot pag may bike lane kasi mas malaki ang damage ng insurance companies pag aksidente

    at this day and age, bikes are a thing of the past. there is a reason why Henry Ford invented the autmobile in the late 1800's to replace bikes. and there is a reason why horses were replaced by bikes. ibig sabihin they are phased out.

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    kung gusto nyo bike lane, i-lobby nyo na kagad sa congress dun sa Clark and Sta Rosa and other special economic zones para magkarun kagad ng planning. dito kasi sa Manila para unrealistic eh, parang nag-green kuno lng para mapansin lang ba. o nakaranas ng konti relief sa pawis sa pagbaba-bike eh kelangan eh yun na ang tama. hello, i perspire in the gym everyday, I am more fit than those bikers who climb sierra madre with their SUVs and bike rack and MTB as bike gears. imagine para lang pumayat, halos P100,000K+ na nagastos , eh sa gym la pang 20K / month. tapos wala din nman pumapayat kasi hindi naman talaga effective ang weekend biking. exercise and getting fit cannot be resolved during free times and weekends. living healthy is a lifestyle.
    talagang naisingit pa talaga yun pag gygym ni OB

    kung gusto ng bike lane dito sa pinas sa mga bagong development na village, subdivision, town isali sa plan yun bike lanes malabo na yun dito sa metro manila...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn
    at this day and age, bikes are a thing of the past. there is a reason why Henry Ford invented the autmobile in the late 1800's to replace bikes. and there is a reason why horses were replaced by bikes. ibig sabihin they are phased out.
    You never cease to entertain me. Do you have statistical data to support your claim that bikes are obsolete?

    Have you watched the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony? Did you noticed how bikes were used in the performances? And why did UK choose Bradley Wiggins who rang the ceremonial bell? He is a big sports hero for winning the 2012 Tour De France. I'm assuming that since you've been to Europe, you know how big cycling events are celebrated. I guess your tourist guide did not mention that to you?

    Bikes were not meant to replace horses. Cars do. There's a reason why horsepower, not bikepower, was meant to measure an engines power. I sure hope you know what the word "car" came from?

    And since you are a gym rat, what's the most ubiquitous bike variant you see inside?

    BTT. I still don't see that bike lanes will fit into Manila streets. Having said that, bikes are certainly not obsolete and can still be useful elsewhere where there are less motor vehicles.



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    waiting for OB's reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchtower

    You never cease to entertain me. Do you have statistical data to support your claim that bikes are obsolete?

    Have you watched the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony? Did you noticed how bikes were used in the performances? And why did UK choose Bradley Wiggins who rang the ceremonial bell? He is a big sports hero for winning the 2012 Tour De France. I'm assuming that since you've been to Europe, you know how big cycling events are celebrated. I guess your tourist guide did not mention that to you?

    Bikes were not meant to replace horses. Cars do. There's a reason why horsepower, not bikepower, was meant to measure an engines power. I sure hope you know what the word "car" came from?

    And since you are a gym rat, what's the most ubiquitous bike variant you see inside?

    BTT. I still don't see that bike lanes will fit into Manila streets. Having said that, bikes are certainly not obsolete and can still be useful elsewhere where there are less motor vehicles.

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    eto ang mga gusto ko sagot. Intellectual

    pero alam ko next evo ng bike, yun segway.

    sa age ngaun where most people are eating saturated fats, bike will be obsolete bec the joints and poisture of the body will not accept anymore the bike motion. Parang pag SWAT, pag binigyan mo yan ng sword sa battle, and engage them in front warfare, wala na sila

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    Nabuklat ko sa files ko. I took this picture when I was studying in Japan. A year ago lang ata ito.



    Sa Japan, bicycles are supposed to on roads but they build sidewalks like this from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourtheboys96 View Post
    Nabuklat ko sa files ko. I took this picture when I was studying in Japan. A year ago lang ata ito.



    Sa Japan, bicycles are supposed to on roads but they build sidewalks like this from time to time.

    Ayos ito sir. dito sa pinas nauubos na sidewalk due to road widening projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourtheboys96 View Post
    Nabuklat ko sa files ko. I took this picture when I was studying in Japan. A year ago lang ata ito.



    Sa Japan, bicycles are supposed to on roads but they build sidewalks like this from time to time.

    This is the proper type of safe bike lanes. BUT given we have narrow sidewalks and congested streets, there is no space left to have dedicated bicycle lanes in Metro manila.

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    no place for bike lanes sa ating sidewalk, naunahan na ng mga sidewalk vendors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourtheboys96 View Post

    Ibang-iba ang ugali ng Hapones sa Pinoy.

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    Thoughts.

    1. Before building bike lanes, maybe they could clear out the sidewalks first of stupid stuff like makeshift vendors/carinderias, potted plants and tricycle parking lots? Maybe that way groups of people would stop walking on the road in a line perpendicular to the road like a set of bowling pins.

    2. There's already a severe lack of roads in MM due to the quantity of cars out there and bicycle people want to even decrease that just so that they can 'feel' safer. Right.

    2.5. "Oh, then you should ditch your car and bike with us to solve congestion!" That's not really a solution, is it? Not all people want to arrive at their destination sweating like a pig.

    3. I'm all for dedicated bike lanes. That way, it'll be safer for both bikers and motorists: bikers wouldn't have to worry about motor vehicles and motorists wouldn't have to change lane every time there's a bicycle on the leftmost lane (traditionally the 'fast' lane) slowing down traffic. *But* it has to be done smartly, to which the current solution proposed isn't.

    In the end, all these problems would be solved if you just strike at the root cause of it all: Philippine road culture.

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    g*go lang ang nakaisip ng bike lane. ang kailngan natin sa manila zip line.

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    2022... we have bike lanes na at the expense of 1 full car lane!

    so roads na dating 2 lanes are down to 1.5 lanes thanks to our "bike lanes"

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    anyway, for those times na biglang nawala yung bike lang

    e.g. BGC 32nd st going to C5 after 5th st.
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    C5 Northbound before McKinley

    do you stay away from the right most lane thinking na "bike lane" sya kahit wala naman guhit?

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    hindi effective ang bikelane kung same road pa din sa kotse.

    key is exclusive, elevated, covered.

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    and bakit tayo bawal sa bike lane? pero ynug bike pwedeng lumabas?

    minsan kaliwa't kanan may bike

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    kaya hindi ako agree sa mga politicians naglagay ng barrier eh sumikip lane ng kotse. So mapipikon yan kaya mangigitgit. Ano laban ng bisikleta syempre wala. Alangan naman mag ala egoy at sumigaw ng bike lives matters hahaha

    Kasi ito mga officials pag nagbike sila yung pasosy exercise lang going timberland, antipolo leisure biking. Hindi naman tunay na bike to work. Ako nagkokotse at bike to gym bike to mall kaya alam ko kagaguhan bike lane sa aurora blvd napakasikip. Kaya ako pag nagbike sa mostly sidewalk tapos may times i need bumaba ng bike to walk. Hindi ako mag aala negro to asset my rights. Im not that emotional.

    Kaya nga tinitira ko ito mga topschool wala sa realidad dumiskarte. Ang tamang bike lane eh sa tabi ng lrt para hindi maulanan, walang kahati na motorized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    and bakit tayo bawal sa bike lane? pero ynug bike pwedeng lumabas?

    minsan kaliwa't kanan may bike
    it's just like the bus lane of olde.
    the original raison de etre of the bus lane, was to prevent cars from trafficking the buses, and not to "keep the buses where they belong".
    somewhere along the way, bumaliktad ang mundo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    and bakit tayo bawal sa bike lane? pero ynug bike pwedeng lumabas?

    minsan kaliwa't kanan may bike
    Bawal naman, wala lang kasi nanghuhuli kaya ginagawa. Maghuli mga TE at PULIS, ewan lang kung madami pa ganyan.

    It's all about implementation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
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    do you stay away from the right most lane thinking na "bike lane" sya kahit wala naman guhit?
    what the law does not prohibit, it allows.
    kung walang linya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    what the law does not prohibit, it allows.
    kung walang linya...
    I guess this answers my earlier question...

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