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  1. Join Date
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    #11
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Contrary to popular belief, you can survive a bullet to the brain, especially if it's a low caliber bullet. Chances are even better if it's not a hollow point and it goes straight in instead of fragmenting every which way.

    Depending on where in the brain it goes, you will have some impairment, but you could live. Stopping the bleeding would have lessened the blood loss and oxygen starvation of brain tissues and could have saved at least one of the victims. Simply bandaging the wounds could have done that.
    I agree


    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    I agree that only those with actual training should do this first aid procedure. But those cops and security personnel did have their training. Sayang lang, hindi nila ginamit.
    Ang alam ko kapag involving bone fractures ang hindi kailangan galawin like sa road accidents or fall pero kung wound eh pwede naman lagyan ng pressure yun para maampat yun pagdudugo

    Kaya ako kumuha ng baril eh... alam ko papanoorin ka lang ng kapitbahay mo kapag pinasok ka ng magnanakaw... ganun din pagdating sa emergencies.... malamang eh panoorin ka lang ng parang nanonood ng pelikula ng mga nakapaligid sa yo....

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by badsekktor View Post
    I agree




    Ang alam ko kapag involving bone fractures ang hindi kailangan galawin like sa road accidents or fall pero kung wound eh pwede naman lagyan ng pressure yun para maampat yun pagdudugo

    Kaya ako kumuha ng baril eh... alam ko papanoorin ka lang ng kapitbahay mo kapag pinasok ka ng magnanakaw... ganun din pagdating sa emergencies.... malamang eh panoorin ka lang ng parang nanonood ng pelikula ng mga nakapaligid sa yo....
    Yes vehicular accidents or those involving suicide via jumping in height dapat check mo muna visually if may broken bones specific in the area of the spine. Yun ang delikado kasi baka lumala tama kaya dapat qualified/trained ka. Kaya nga sa road accident usually makikita mo may neck brace munang ilalagay as precaution before any attempt to free the victim.

    Pero sa open wound, medyo basic ang first aid for those people not to have done anything.

    Hehe yung sa baril kahit nga siguro airsoft gun puwede na para pang-deter lang. Ganda din nung may dogs ka na trained, hindi kumakain ng food na bigay ng ibang tao para hindi malason.

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    #13
    Ogags na kasi ngayon e, yung driver ko nagmomotor daw minsan, may nadaanan na sumemplang na naka motor din, hinintuan yung biktima dahil tutulungan, yung mga dumaan daw na mga tao dinuduro daw siya, buti nalang yung biktima galos lang at nakatayo rin agad, pinaliwanag sa by standers na sumemplang lang siya sa sarili niya...kung sakaling walang malay yung biktima baka yung driver ko nagulpi na o baka nakalaboso pa..

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Ogags na kasi ngayon e, yung driver ko nagmomotor daw minsan, may nadaanan na sumemplang na naka motor din, hinintuan yung biktima dahil tutulungan, yung mga dumaan daw na mga tao dinuduro daw siya, buti nalang yung biktima galos lang at nakatayo rin agad, pinaliwanag sa by standers na sumemplang lang siya sa sarili niya...kung sakaling walang malay yung biktima baka yung driver ko nagulpi na o baka nakalaboso pa..
    see?

    mind your own business nalang

    huwag na mag superhero

    baka maging supervillain ka pa

    baligtad ang mundo ngayon

    kaya tama yung ginawa ng gwardiya ng SM -- di pinakialaman

    what's the worse that could happen to them now? siguro ma-lecture lang kung ano gagawin pag may ganyan incident uli

    eh pag ginalaw nila baka nademanda pa sila dahil namatay yung tao

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    #15
    Hindi naman sa being indifferent, pero parang sugal din kasi pag tumulong ka, pag nabuhay, bayani ka, kung suswertehin ka baka sumikat ka ng ilang araw at may tongressman na gustong sumabit sa kasikatan mo, baka mabigyan ng scholarship anak mo. Pag nadedo...demanda ka na, gastos pa, kung todo malas ka pa baka makulong ka pa.

    Kaya kahapon habang binobomba nila karen davila at vic deleon lima yung mga pulis at guwardiya parang gusto ko itext, palibhasa nasa loob kayo ng booth ang dali bumatikos.

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    #16
    it's easy to criticize AFTER things happen

    hindsight is 20/20

    pero when you're there seeing those people laying on the ground, what will do?

    tutulungan mo ba agad?

    di mo ba iisipin "hey, gunshots... crime scene yan... di ko pwede galawin yan... call the authorities nalang"

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Kaya kahapon habang binobomba nila karen davila at vic deleon lima yung mga pulis at guwardiya parang gusto ko itext, palibhasa nasa loob kayo ng booth ang dali bumatikos.
    Typical sa mga news readers ng Media parasites always feeling armchair experts. Kala kung sinong magaling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    it's easy to criticize AFTER things happen

    hindsight is 20/20

    pero when you're there seeing those people laying on the ground, what will do?

    tutulungan mo ba agad?

    di mo ba iisipin "hey, gunshots... crime scene yan... di ko pwede galawin yan... call the authorities nalang"
    If there are people helping already... maybe not. But if no one else is there...

    I've climbed up on top of buildings to help firemen. I got a few whacks (and ten stitches) to the head because I didn't run away from a fight when a friend was on the ground and we were outnumbered.I helped strap a patient down in the ER one time when I walked in during the graveyard shift and the only personnel there were interns too timid to get their hands on a "biter" squirting blood from a cut jugular with his intestines hanging out. Less importantly, but more enjoyable, I once carried a female classmate who'd stepped on a sea urchin a hundred meters over sharp coral back to beach ( ). Maybe over the years, I've gotten more cautious, because now I have a family, but there are some things that you don't just let slide. And a dying person is one of them.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    If there are people helping already... maybe not. But if no one else is there...

    I've climbed up on top of buildings to help firemen. I helped strap a patient down in the ER one time when I walked in during the graveyard shift and the only personnel there were interns too timid to get their hands on a "biter". Maybe over the years, I've gotten more cautious, but there are some things that you don't just let slide. And a dying person is one of them.
    i understand

    there are things your conscience will not let you walk past

    just figuring out the thinking process of those who witnessed the dying boy

    they didnt do anything coz they're either apathetic or are in self-preservation mode

    there's lack of empathy in our society

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    #20
    kung may nadulas sa mall and got hurt bad, sigurado tutulungan ng gwardiya

    pero murder suicide eto eh. i don't think guards were taught how to respond to something like that

    they didn't know if they can move the dead&dying or not

    to be on the safe side, they didnt

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