US government shutdown - your thoughts?

[uls]

no it's not

it's more than that

i said this before -- at the core is ideology

conservative ideology vs. liberal ideology

[uls]

before all this i didnt care what US politicians are up to

now i'm forced to pay attention coz they're causing market turbulence

[[archie]]

no it's not

it's more than that

i said this before -- at the core is ideology

conservative ideology vs. liberal ideology

Yeah and the point of argument of liberal and conservatives is still Obamacare.

[uls]

liberals want the govt to take care of everyone thru govt programs. liberals are compassionate

conservatives hate social programs. conservatives want people to take care of themselves. huwag kayo umasa sa gobyerno. bahala kayo sa buhay niyo

[falken]

But Obamacare is the heart and soul of the shutdown...

Which shouldn't be the case. Obamacare was already enacted into law, meaning the Republican majority in Congress failed to block it. The present shutdown wouldn't have happened if Congress just approved the budget, which was the main agenda. But the Republicans instead of simply deliberating about the budget, insisted that Obamacare should be defunded before they would approve the budget.

They shouldn't have included defunding Obamacare, which is an entirely different entity in the budgetary discussions.

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[[archie]]

Yeah kaya may shutdown... Republicans want to defund for a year. Upon realizing that it's not going to happen, they wanted to compromise with individual mandate. After all Obama gave out waivers to big corporations.

Fully Funding Obamacare is a disaster waiting to happen. Small to medium businesses would need to cut employees or not go beyond the threshold, penalties for those who don't want to pay... It's directly going to affect the budget of middle class people. After all the promises of Obama that spending will be cut, now projections see the it will increase spending. That's the reason why republicans are trying to do their part of easing in the law.

[[archie]]

liberals want the govt to take care of everyone thru govt programs. liberals are compassionate

conservatives hate social programs. conservatives want people to take care of themselves. huwag kayo umasa sa gobyerno. bahala kayo sa buhay niyo

Democrats want everybody happy despite raising taxes. Republicans naman lower taxes but minimal government. May pros and cons pareho that's why they have bipartisan agreements.

[uls]

Republicans just hate everything about Obama

lahat ng gusto gawin ni Obama bina-block nila

kinarir nila ang pag block kay Obama

that's the bottom line

hindi lang ito about Obamacare

[[archie]]

And same way with a republican president. Democrats will always block opposing party.

[uls]

the US govt has never been as divided as it is now

they can fight all they want i don't care

just raise the freaking debt ceiling