US government shutdown - your thoughts?

[K.I.L.L.]

the shutdown for me is the cost the US has to pay for being at war for the longest time now and trying to hold the prestige of being the one of the strongest militaries in the world is putting a strain on their economy.

I thought they made money during those wars through selling weapons and defense systems?

[cpsolt]

the arms manufacturers/suppliers i guess... but not the govt.

[CVT]

lahat ata nakasara. I have a friend who posted yesterday that even the Grand Canyon is closed.

Deym!

I just read here too that my other peborits "Yellow Stone National Park" with Old Faithful, Mt. Rushmore and Statue of Liberty were also closed.....

Get out, tourists in US national parks told

Hundreds of tourists staying in landmark US national parks like Yosemite and the Grand Canyon face a deadline Thursday to leave due to the government shutdown.
The National Park Service closed its gates on its 401 sites as soon as the shutdown went into effect Tuesday morning, leaving visitors -- including many from overseas -- frustrated at park entrances across the country.
Tourists who were already staying in hotels, cabins and campgrounds inside national parks like California's world-famous Yosemite were allowed to stay -- but only for 48 hours, after which they were told to leave.
"Guests ... who are already checked-in can continue with their vacation plans, but they are required to leave by October 3 at 3pm," said Lisa Cesaro of the company that operates over 1,000 rooms in the park, DNC Parks & Resorts at Yosemite.
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The park, which was already partially closed in August due to a massive wildfire, is known around the globe - especially for Yosemite Valley, where tourists flock to see landmarks including the spectacular El Capitan and Half Dome rock formations.
"We came all the way from England to climb and get to the top of El Capitan, but now we won't get the chance," Tim Larrad, a 52-year-old retired police officer from Worcester told the Contra Costa Times newspaper at his campsite.
"It's very disappointing. This climb was lifetime stuff. The trip took a lot of time to plan and prepare for," he said.
"I know all gove
rnments had their issues, but I never would have thought the federal government would shut down."
The Yosemite spokeswoman said: "The majority of daily activities operated by DNC will not be available during the shutdown, including horseback riding and bike rentals.
"We are continuing to provide retail, dining and limited transportation services for overnight guests in the park through Thursday," she said.
"If the shutdown continues, we will try to reschedule those who have upcoming reservations or cancel their booking and provide a refund," she added.
Some 715,000 visitors flock daily to National Park Service sites across the country, on average in October, according to CNN.
Other world-famous tourist attractions shuttered until further notice include the Statue of Liberty, Mount Rushmore, Yellowstone National Park, and the Alcatraz prison island in San Francisco Bay.
In the Grand Canyon, visited by 18,000 people a day on average at this time of year, spokeswoman Kirby-Lynn Shedlowski said the gates were closed from 6am Tuesday.
"All recreational opportunities in the park, including hiking, biking, mule rides, visitor centers, they're all closed," she said.
People who were in accommodations in the park on Monday night had been "given 48 hours to make additional arrangements, and then they have to leave the park," she added.
"We're just trying to maintain an orderly shutdown and closure of the park," she said, adding: "Having to turn anyone away is hard."

21.2K:tomato:

[yebo]

sarado nga mga parks nyan. andun ako in 1995 and during a long drive from LA to Chicago (deliver ng drugs ) i made a side trip to the grand canyon and hoover dam sana. wala nagsayang lang ako ng gas, bwelta din.

[safeorigin]

the arms manufacturers/suppliers i guess... but not the govt.

That's the price they pay for the century-long transition of the US from a constitutional republic (NOT a democracy) to a progressive/socialist Orwellian state.

Of course, the state can just kick the can and continue the Ponzi scheme. Have every citizen conditioned to hold onto their entitlements and when the confidence game ends bad, suck them into serfdom.

If the democrats can't have their way, they'll just label the opposition(including their Founding Fathers) as terrorists/extremists/suicide bombers.

Report: Vice President Joe Biden calls Tea Party Republicans terrorists - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

But hey! If labeling doesn't work, why not phone the IRS?

2013 IRS scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[ghosthunter]

911... "In case of emergency.... call someone else".

[frenchtower]

911 is funded by subscriber fees on telephone services. Police and emergency response are not affected by this shutdown. So right now, it is still okay to call for emergency assistance.

[frenchtower]

My thoughts... It's a total disgrace to have this happen again. There were a lot opportunities to avert this situation only if both the liberals and conservatives have grounded their egos. After the Republicans lost their bid for the mid-term prized position, they were all fired up to oppose virtually anything churned by the Democrats particularly Obamacare. Let's leave it at that. Now, a much greater concern is that sometime in the near term the debt ceiling will be reached and the US government have no choice but keep this train wreck rolling no matter who or what gets crushed.

[CVT]

I am not familiar with the American policy/procedure here, but this thing can really happen if there is a deadlock or political maneuvering...

Unlike here in the Philippines, which I heard from the news a couple of nights ago, if the budget has not yet been approved, then the departments can use last year's budget number, and so, there will be no immediately shutdown in "non-essential" government services.



21.2K:tomato:

[shadow]

I am not familiar with the American policy/procedure here, but this thing can really happen if there is a deadlock or political maneuvering...

Unlike here in the Philippines, which I heard from the news a couple of nights ago, if the budget has not yet been approved, then the departments can use last year's budget number, and so, there will be no immediately shutdown in "non-essential" government services.



21.2K:tomato:

True! That's why RP president is a powerful position. Once budget is reenacted, president has full control. Naging PDAF na niya Ang budget.

There will really be no shutdown for us.


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