Kawawa naman talaga ang mga tao sa Pinas. Hindi naman kami uutang at walang balak umutang sa iyo eh. :D Hehehe.Originally Posted by Rediesel
Nice one.ditto! I'm still hoping pa din na someday this country will be great again. I'm not earning that much but I'm currently happy with what I have right now. I still drive a beat up corolla and have a meager cash in the bank, but I don't care, as long as I'm happy and thankful for what I have. I guess it all boils down to contentment with what you have wherever you may be.
For me, if given a chance then why not.
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April 29th, 2006 12:04 AM #22I'm second-gen Fil-Am here. Even though I wasn't born in the Philippines, I have kin and friends over there. It's the land of my heritage and it'll always have a soft spot in my heart.
That said, my home is here. Uncle Sam owns me should I have to bear arms in defense of this country. Actually, I've already done my time (20 years) so it probably won't happen again. I was raised here. So no matter how much I love the Philippines, my ultimate loyalties lie here. If other Pinoys have a problem with that, then I'll just have to live with it to my dying days.
For those Pinoys on work visas, it's no problem regarding the Philippines as the motherland.
For those immigrating, think carefully about what you're doing. You're not just going abroad to make money. You're giving up a large part of your loyalty to the Philippines and transferring that loyalty to your adopted country. If you think otherwise, then you're immigrating for the wrong reasons.
For some, it'll be akin to burning bridges and not looking back. When I returned here, I thought I was done with the Philippines for good. But you know, I just can't turn my back on my friends or my kin over there. The best memories of my life was in the Philippines. The ties simply endure.....
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April 29th, 2006 12:51 AM #23Why? Sa akin lang for safety purposes not so much financially but to get away from threats like kidnappings and other bad things.
Where? Anywhere basta ideal living conditions. Although I grew up in the states being a navy brat, I find Canada a more simpler and easier place to live in and the people here are much more friendlier than anywhere else.
And did I mention the women here are so hot hot hot.
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April 29th, 2006 01:07 AM #24You are right there are several threads... lately napag-isip-isip ko kung bakit gusto ko pa ring bumalik kahit na nandito na ako.
Buhay pa kasi ang magulang ko. And they have maybe 10-15 years to live. And they are still in the Philippines. They can visit, but no more than 6 months. I would like to spend time with them, and for my daughter to get to know them as well, while they're still alive. When they're gone, they're gone forever. After that, we will see.
The other reasons are: 1) other family; 2) friends (who are like family as well); 3) property.
I am away on temporary work permit with my wife and daughter. I am here because I haven't tried it. The money was secondary. As always, plans change. Nothing is etched in stone. Ask me again in 5 years. And yes I still pray someday the Philippines will be a great country, but some things are just beyond your control.Last edited by the_wildthing; April 29th, 2006 at 09:34 AM.
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April 29th, 2006 01:51 AM #25hindi ko alam pero while reading some of your posts, ewan ko ba, bakit parang kumakabog dibdib ko, hehe, pwera biro. kumakabog na di ko ma explain.......
pero ako kahit saan, basta maginhawa maibigay kong buhay sa pamilya ko, ayos. tatlo pa lang naman kami.
ay! nanay at tatay ko pa nga pala, shi*t! apat na kapatid ko pa nga pala....tsk tsk tsk, haay buhay pinoy.
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April 29th, 2006 02:33 AM #26my dad really had no choice but to migrate to the US. we were dirt poor in the philippines and our future was, at best, bleak. we did not hit it rich here in the US, but we're not scrounging for food either. i think people have it wrong when it comes to the term "flowing with milk and honey". to me, it means opportunity. yes, this land is flowing with milk and honey, but you still have to gather them. they don't go directly to your mouth.
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April 29th, 2006 02:51 AM #27i just got here in NY last week....to permanently migrate is what i have in mind.....i just got married last february and im hoping that my wife and I could have a secure life here in the US. im planning to work and to study MBA part time here in NY....
the reason i left the philippines and is thinking of migrating here is not becoz of financial difficulties.....in fact, mayaman ang mga magulang ko and my siblings and I could live a good life in manila even without working for the rest of our lives.....may mga small business akong iiwanan sa manila...
i have been to almost every country in the world......europe, asia and north america napuntahan ko na...i noticed that i get attracted to countries where the politicians are doing everything they can to make a difference in the life of their fellow countrymen......ganyan dito sa US, pati sa Japan, korea and most western europe countries...mahal ng mga politiko ang mga kababayan nila at di sila kakandidato para makapag-nakaw ng pera hindi gaya sa atin sa pilipinas......
sabi ng isang barkada ko, forever empleyado daw ako dito at 2nd class citizen lang.....gago daw ako for leaving Manila.....well, it just so happens that im not happy in the philippines anymore and all I am asking is from people who know me is to respect my decision to migrate and just be supportive and happy for me....
im hoping to be able to migrate here but deep inside, i will always be filipino no matter what
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April 29th, 2006 02:58 AM #28i've always wondered why rich people from the philippines migrate to the US...now i know one of the reasons why. good for you moneywhiz, and good luck. Originally Posted by moneywhiz
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April 29th, 2006 03:08 AM #29tama iyon Bro Moneywhiz kung saan ka masaya gawin mo wag mo isipin kung ano ang sasabihin ng tao , Originally Posted by moneywhiz
sabi nga nila "wala pwede mag drive ng buhay mo kundi sarili mo din" ,
as long as wala ka nasasagasaan or natatapakan na ibang tao ,
sa landas na pupuntahan mo
saludo ako sa iyo ,bigtime ka na pala dito(Pinas) pero tinalikuran mo pa din
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April 29th, 2006 03:12 AM #30if I am as rich as you *moneywhiz, pupunta din ako sa NY at tatambay ako sa wall street 5 days a week hehehe.
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April 29th, 2006 04:22 AM #31Welcome to NYC bro..it's gonna be a totally new experience, but sabi nga nila "If you can make it here, You can make it anywhere " Originally Posted by moneywhiz
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April 29th, 2006 05:50 AM #32Nice thread. Mga 7 years na ako dito sa US. Swerte lang kami ng asawa ko at nasa healthcare kami kaya madali ang transition, at magaganda ang opportunities. I believe that most,if not all, filipinos will find it easy to adopt another country's culture. Kahit yata sa Siberia may noypi. Kung sa regrets, wala naman. Kung pwede lang e taon taon uuwi kami kaso hindi ganon kadali. Iba pa rin ang sarili mong bansa, yun nga lang e mahirap talaga ang buhay diyan sa pinas. Tungkol sa mga ibang responses regarding sa politika, pare-pareho lang naman sila e. May corrupt din dito, ang kaibahan lang e "american accent" sila. Binubulsa din ng iba ang pera ng bayan. Kahit sabihin nilang maging US citizen man ako, pag humarap ako sa salamin, isang pilipino pa rin ang nakikita ko.
SA mga gustong mag-migrate, kung wala kayo sa heathcare o kaya mga in-demand na trabaho dito sa US, be ready to swallow your pride. Bababa ang position nyo but if you do the right thing aangat pa rin kayo. Kung nursing, therapy, etc ang linya nyo, magsipag lang kayo at makakabili kayo kahit dalawa o tatlong bahay pa ang gusto nyo.
Good Luck to those who want to migrate, and kudos to those who want to be left behind and make a difference!
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April 29th, 2006 07:58 AM #33Good luck sa inyo who wants to migrate. I've been here sa state since '89 ...sa una lang mahirap lalo na sa mga barkada.....there was a time i worked three jobs ..pag masipag ka you'll be ok...i was able to retire 2004 at the age of 36 because of real estate. i used to be a controller for hotel. there is so much opportunity here...but i see to it every year i go HOME
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April 29th, 2006 08:14 AM #34ask ko lang sa mga nag migrate na, when time comes na matanda na kau, where do you want to spend the rest of your life, uuwi ba kau ng pinas or stay where you are now?
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April 29th, 2006 08:44 AM #36sir jubad, bilib naman talaga ako sayo. retire at age 36!. sabi na nga ba mali ang pinasukan kong trabaho eh.
lapit na kong bumalik...hindi ko na hihintaying tumanda ako. hehe
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April 29th, 2006 08:45 AM #37i guess i don't count because i am from the US (born/raised). but my parents migrated here before i was born, intending to get the education, training, and savings for a career in consulting (mom) and set up a business (dad). they always intended to go back home, and unlike many pinoys who have the same plans but never leave, they actually did go back home and are doing quite well over there.
after living with them over there for awhile, i did "migrate" back to the US after i got married - partly because i liked the opportunities here better, but mainly because i feel like my home is here....even though much of the rest of the world seems against us sometimes. i wouldn't say my family is 'mayaman' over there, but i had plenty of opportunities if i stayed in the philippines....talagang mas at home lang talaga ako dito.
what advice would i have for pinoys looking to migrate?
learn to be tolerant and accepting of other cultures and points of view, particularly if you move to a melting pot country like the US or Canada. minsan nakakagulat yung pag-iisip at values ng iyong new country, and you must learn to adapt and be open-minded.
it's hard but practice self-control. in developed countries with high standards of living and easy credit, it's very easy to go crazy and ruin your life with debt. i love the guys who come here, move in with 4 roommates in a small apartment, and buy a new E46 M3. on the flip side, if you are fiscally responsible, hardworking, and a little lucky you can retire young and wealthy like that dude in the above post
learn to live 100% independently. we pinoys are an interdependent culture, and it's easy to lean on parents, family, and close friends. but life changes fast, friends and family are not as reliable as you might think, and they may let you down when you need them most. make sure you never rely on anyone to do you favors, even for smaller things like watching the baby while you're at work
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April 29th, 2006 09:05 AM #38Sirs na nagmigrate out of Philippines where do u plan to go when u retire? i.e. when society deems u useless? Kc ung isa kong tito na nagwowork abroad matulungin sa amin sabi ng nanay ko pagnagretire raw sya kami na raw bahala sa kanya. Ung isang tita naman ng asawa ng friend ko malapit na magretire ang bait nya sa friend ko kc walang pamilya sa abroad ang balak raw ng tita nya sa kanila magretire kaya lahat ng luho ng friend k binibigay nya.
Yan kc ung isang main factor ko sa desisyon ko not to migrate. Abroad a lot of opportunities but u need to work it out. but what after retirement? sa home for the aged? nakakaiyak ata un after mo maging useful sa country na pinagsilbihan mo eh basta ka na lang itapon ng anak mo sa institution to be cared for by young people who migrated there for a better life.
Tama ba yung mga sinabi ko? Di ko din sure eh pero takot ako na after ko iprioritize ibang tao eh baka ganun gawin sa akin pagtanda ko... Unlike here. Kahit mga magulang ko kaya panay tulong nila sa amin magkakapatid may ineexpek din sila. kaya din ako nagpupursige sa trabaho para may maibigay sa kanila. parang neverending tug of war ba.
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April 29th, 2006 09:05 AM #39contentment. you said the right word bro. dito naman sa Pilipinas madali din naman mabuhay kung simple lang Originally Posted by Imau
for example:
* upgrade your cellphone in 3 year (not month!) intervals. KISS -> call & text & shoot.
* buy only a new car after 7 years or so, dont drive aggressively para hindi mag depreciate kagad parts and, avoid rush hour as possibly as you can.
* dont drink coffee worth > P100 everyday
* fine dining/leisure/travelling/alcohol intake must be done only in groups (tipid chip in technique)
* invest on home theatre cinema and internet access * home for entertainment. home library also recommended.
* keep body physically fit all of the time (like regular gym, badminton, etc). if fit no tendency to overeat, less food/beverage/sweets, less cravings/consumption/expenses. less consumption -> less trips to the doctor
* mind your own business. avoid things that dont really concern you or that takes away a lot of your productivity or leisure time - like political issues and the like. but remain vigilant. read, learn, accept but dont judge. the moment you judge then you're involved to very end, at least emotionally.
* and best of thing of all, avoid the bandwagon effect at all cost. (like trends, seasonal fashion, new technology, new cars, signature brands etc.)
if above followed religiously, imagine the savings!
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April 29th, 2006 09:55 AM #40when i get hold of just enough money to retire..i would definitely go back to the philippines and live in a beach and have a small business sa water sports.
ive always wanted to have a farm when i was a kid...we almost bought a coffee farm in zamboanga but the peace and order situation kept us from closing the deal...that would've sealed my dream life =)
hanggang ngayon..ganun parin pangarap ko. retire sa beach or farm sa PINAS.
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