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    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...QC-road-mishap

    Woman killed, husband hurt in QC road mishap

    By Marlon Ramos
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    First Posted 14:27:00 02/12/2008

    MANILA, Philippines -- A 31-year-old woman died and her husband was seriously injured when the motorcycle they were riding was hit by another motorcycle and then run over by a passenger jeep on Elliptical Road, Quezon City Tuesday morning, police said.

    Ma. Victoria Lito of San Jose Del Monte City, Bulacan died instantly of severe head injuries. Her husband Lamberto, 31, is still in critical condition at the East Avenue Medical Center, police said.

    The driver of the jeep, Marana Merari, 29, surrendered to authorities after the accident, police said.

    Senior Police Officer 4 Jefferson Dagay, Special Traffic Action Group investigator, said the victims were traversing Elliptical Road on board a Honda XRM motorcycle (NF 2668) driven by Lamberto when another motorcycle sideswiped them at around 10:25 a.m.

    "Because of the impact, the motorcycle fell on its left side. The protective helmets they were wearing were also destroyed," Dagay told the Philippine Daily Inquirer.

    An oncoming jeep (CWS 609) driven by Merari ran over the victims, Dagay said.

    He said they filed charges of reckless imprudence resulting to homicide and serious physical injuries against Merari.
    tanong ko lang, bakit yung driver ng jeep ang kinasuhan? i'm assuming since the motorcycle they were riding fell on its left side and was in the middle of the road, the driver of the jeepney had no time to swerve or avoid the passengers. bakit hindi yung driver ng other motorcycle na naka-sideswept sa kanila ang kinasuhan? it's obvious from the report that he/she started it all. the jeepney driver was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

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    yes, I think there is something wrong. unless the paper didn't said it all. I have seen MC hitting each other too. even with slow speed, it is still deadly.

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    Well, Pinas yan, as long as may kotse and human casualty involved, laging may kasalanan at kakasuhan yung driver...

    Kahit kung nag80 ka sa NLE and some idiot crosses the highway, ikaw padin may sala...

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    It's the elliptical road, which is supposedly one way right? The "oncoming" jeep... that's what's wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbeige View Post
    It's the elliptical road, which is supposedly one way right? The "oncoming" jeep... that's what's wrong.
    i think what they meant was the jeep is at the back of the motorcycle on the same lane. lets see, whats the proper term for that? it would also mean the motorycle swerved to the lane of the jeep, thereby, the jeep "accidentaly" run over them.

    this i think is the part what is wrong, should the jeep driver be charged for reckless when infact the motorcycle was sideswiped and swrved on to the lane of the jeep?

    what would the jeep's defense be?

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    kelangan nga revise ang traffic laws sa mga ganyan kawawa naman yun jeepney driver kung wrong place at the wrong time lang talaga sya.

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    mbeige's assumption makes more sense to me.

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    "It's the elliptical road, which is supposedly one way right? The "oncoming" jeep... that's what's wrong."
    wrong composition lang ito by the writer, but i am sure he meant that the jeep was traveling on the same way..

    sa question naman na bat ang mananagot ang jeep, walang pinagkaiba yan if nag sudden brake ang nasa harapan mo, even intentionally, ikaw pa rin ang mananagot.

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    i guess if the jeep was really coming from the opposite direction dahil sabi nga "oncoming", then it would have made a bigger story. but the report focused on the motorcycle getting sideswept by the other motorcycle so i guess the jeep was traveling in the same direction as the motorcycle.

    btw, from the report, it seems that the other motorcycle got away.

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    I think both the other MC and the Jeep driver should pay.

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    so kunwari you were driving along edsa and some idiot decides to cross under a pedestrian overpass with that big pink billboard glaring at him that says "WALANG TAWIRAN, NAKAMAMATAY" and you manage to hit the said idiot, it's still your fault?

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    ganun na nga. inaalis yun responsibility dun sa idiot pedestrian even though its his/her fault.

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    The stupid traffic law has to be revised. So is the notion that as long as someone gets killed even if it's through no fault of yours, you still have to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbeige View Post
    It's the elliptical road, which is supposedly one way right? The "oncoming" jeep... that's what's wrong.
    tama! perfect explanation sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falken View Post
    The stupid traffic law has to be revised. So is the notion that as long as someone gets killed even if it's through no fault of yours, you still have to pay.
    I'm not sure that that's what the law says or means. What's sure is that if you are the cause of death or injury, you get a case whether it's your fault or not -- magaan nga lang ang kaso kaya naaareglo. Technically, yung MC na isa ang may kasalanan kaya kung mahuli siya, may kaso din siya -- IF mahuli (or if they even bother).

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    malabo nga yon a.
    kahit pa sabihing naka 1car distance ka sa biglaang
    aksidente nayon di pwedeng dimo aabutan ang mga nasawi.

    wawa talaga ang mga driver na nakakaencounter ng ganong scenario.
    bad ruling yong ganon.

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    Baka the jeep was entering the stupid elliptical road from one of the side roads (QAve, East Ave, etc)... That road is just a big accident loop

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    SOP talaga na kasuhan yung mga nai-involve sa traffic accidents, especially pag may namatay. It's up to them to prove their innocence in court.

    For all we know, baka sabi-sabi lang ng jeepney driver yung may isa pang motorcycle na nakasagi dun sa mga biktima, kaya niya nabundol.

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    homicide due to reckless imprudence ata ang case na ipapatong (criminal - people of the philippines)

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    It's wrong to file a case even if the investigation shows that the driver is at fault, but like others have said, SOP yun.

    Yung masama lang, it goes on your permanent record.

    I saw this on TV last night. The driver didn't seem to be at fault, and he surrendered right away. The biker was pushed off balance into his lane.

    The elliptical road is stupid, ever since they removed the center island, it's nearly impossible to cross (as a pedestrian), and the bike lane is all the way in the center. And since this is now an eight lane road, people swerve all the way to the eigth lane to travel at 40 km/h there, then dive to the right for their turn off at just fifty meters away, crossing the whole road and causing a whole lot of near accidents.

    And cyclists and bikers are expected to slalom through eight f***ing lanes of traffic to get to their proper lane? Something's not right with the logic behind this road...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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