technical pens

[JJCarEnthusiast]

i had this steadler technical pens na one set (.1 .3 and .5) the .3 and .5 worked well but the .1 parang putol-putol yung sulat nya. den hanggang nag leak sya pag shineshake ko. i took it apart and cleaned it running water. what i did at first is only to remove the body (hindi ko binaklas yung sa point section, cleaning pin, etc) and held it under the faucet hoping to remove all ink inside and eventually what seems to block the ink flow. after that i replaced the ink reservoir and after a few seconds of shaking sumulat na uli, and di na nagleak.

the day na dinala ko na sya sa school i used it without problems until nagleak nanaman sya. pero maayos pang sumulat. sabi ko sa sarili ko siguro dapat tanggalin yung point section so yun na nga ginawa ko kahapon. tas i saw the picture below and meron pa palang parts inside sa point section. i took it apart and cleaned it. pero when i placed it back together i bent the thin wire on the cleaning pin. in a few attempts to straighten it and put it inside the feed tube it somehow disconnected from the cleaning pin nakita ko pa sya pero attempting to put it back sa cleaning pin parang tumalsik sya tas nawala na (sobrang liit e di ko na makita) is there any way out of this without purchasing the whole .1 pen?? meron bang binebentang cleaning pin lang?

[ghosthunter]

You can buy a replacement point section. That would include the point, feedtube, cleaning pin and retaining cap.

Back in my days in college, only the brand Steadler and Rotring had available replacement point sections. Not sure about now.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

thanks sir GH! will try too look for point section replacement tomorrow. mga magkano kaya ang ganyan? masyado kasing naging makalikot

[shakatak70]

marami sa National bookstore... Rotring at Staedler and most common.

Pag naglilinis ng 0.1 ingat talaga at di na tinutuwid pag nababaluktot dahil mangyayari nga yung nangyari sa iyo. hinay-hinay sa pagsuksok pag 0.1 at 0.2

[alwayz_yummy]

pagdating sa .1, ingat ka.. wag mo gagamitin sa less than subs. 24 paper--lulmulusot sa papel yan, at sa paglilinis, 5x ka magingat... madaling maputol yan...

[yebo]

hangang ngayon ba gumagamit pa ng tech pens? kala ko in this age of computers e nasa data CD na ang pinapa-submit na technical drawings? di pa ba napalitan ng autocad yung drawing subjects sa eng'g at archi?

[indiej]

ganyan pa rin ba ang design ng tech pens dito? makabasa nga kung ano ang bago.

Decades ago the Rotring Rapidograph is a better designed tech pen that gave no such hassle. maybe it's about your diligent maintenance of your pens. iirc don't park your pens loaded, esp. .1 - .4. always clean then store.

[ghosthunter]

hangang ngayon ba gumagamit pa ng tech pens? kala ko in this age of computers e nasa data CD na ang pinapa-submit na technical drawings? di pa ba napalitan ng autocad yung drawing subjects sa eng'g at archi?

There is no harm in knowing the basic tools in engineering. In fact I would prefer if engineering students would have the basics including drafting before going into more advanced tools.

[indiej]

i have to add that reinserting the pin esp. for 0.1, 0.15 is a tactile affair. go to a happy and quiet place in your mind. roll the pin to check if it is straight and centered before reinsertion. feel for the tiniest bit of resistance cos this means the pin is not going through the hole of the point.

regarding cleaning, warm water, blowing, sucking are some helpful techniques learn and teach this to the ladies. not so much with sucking cos IDK about the toxicity of the ink and not so cool with the black lips, unless for the goths. here's the kicker, iirc use a drop of baby oil with the ink. i forgot why. sigh, too many jokes

thanks btw. i'll revisit my set and do some maintenance.

[yebo]

There is no harm in knowing the basic tools in engineering. In fact I would prefer if engineering students would have the basics including drafting before going into more advanced tools.

agree pero di ba the basics are learned using Mongol #2 pencil. tech pens come in only pag dating na sa mga projects where you submit tech drawings. and in actual practice plans are drawn using pencil only so that it is easy to revise, then pinapa-blue print na lang.

[Monseratto]

We used to add a drop of baby oil to the ink everytime we refill. This way the ink wont dry up and clog the pen. Sensitive talaga yung 0.1 - 0.3. Used to buy replacements with the body section at Joli's along Espana or St. Patrick near Recto.

[12vdc]

LOLz.. Reminds me of Drawing 1 & 2.. I thought Autocad na lahat ngayon.

BTw im Rotring user. You need to soak the parts in hot(or preferrably) boiling water to remove coagulated ink.

That cleaning pin is so sensitive, you need not remove that unless there are mineral deposits in the barrel.

It acts like a valve, so a slight bend could jam and stuck causing ink to leak.

[Horsepower]

For me, mas maganda ang sulat ng Rotring pero masyado brittle ang body nya. I even tried Faber Castell (nung di pa sya China). Eventually, I settled with Staedtler (although prone to blots). Matibay talaga kasi siempre Germany (ewan ko lang ngayon kung German made pa rin but IMO, one should not pay that much for a china pen).

BTW, yes, use hot water para madali matanggal yung dried ink.

May mga nasira din akong 0.1 & 0.3 noon, I didn't know pwede pala makabili ng parts nyan.

[asb75]

ang alam mas mahal pa ang presyo nang parts or pen point assembly. as an advise bumili ka na ulit nang 1 pc. na pen na 0.1 lang dahil konti lang ang difference sa price. just becareful of using 0.1 pen very sensitive, kaya ako mas ginamit ko na lang ang 0.2 nung araw. pero in reality gagamitin ninyo ay ACAD software na pag drawing nang achitectural & engineering plans.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

ME course ko and yes we still use tech pens pero for one sem. lang. at 2nd yr i'll be taking a computer-aided drafting subject already.

btt: ho may gosh! 600 ang point section! ang buong pen daw e 700 or 750 ba un. ang masakit kasi dito bago lang yung pen early jun lang binili kaya ko lang naisipang baklasin kasi nagleleak nga. and with little knowledge about this piece of equipment yun nga nabali ko yung parang needle. pwede bang palitan to ng kahit anong .1 na wire (kung meron) ? lol. could it be na ung leaking problem is a factory defect? gagamitin ko kasi bukas ang pen maybe manghihiram nalang muna ako, pero i want my pen working. baka pwedeng ibalik ko nalang sya sa store pero baka titignan nila na wala nang needle baka di tanggapin. your thoughts?

[asb75]

ME course ko and yes we still use tech pens pero for one sem. lang. at 2nd yr i'll be taking a computer-aided drafting subject already.

btt: ho may gosh! 600 ang point section! ang buong pen daw e 700 or 750 ba un. ang masakit kasi dito bago lang yung pen early jun lang binili kaya ko lang naisipang baklasin kasi nagleleak nga. and with little knowledge about this piece of equipment yun nga nabali ko yung parang needle. pwede bang palitan to ng kahit anong .1 na wire (kung meron) ? lol. could it be na ung leaking problem is a factory defect? gagamitin ko kasi bukas ang pen maybe manghihiram nalang muna ako, pero i want my pen working. baka pwedeng ibalik ko nalang sya sa store pero baka titignan nila na wala nang needle baka di tanggapin. your thoughts?

i think manghiram ka na lang muna for the meantime, alam ko hindi na puwedeng isoli ang technical pens dahil ichecheck nila yan eh. try tumingin sa sulit baka may nagbebenta kahit used na siya or bumili ka nalang kahit yun mumurahin lang basta importante may magamit ka.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

anyway subukan ko nalang baka naman kasi factory defect talaga yun. pero kung ayaw talaga bibili nalang ako ng bagong point section. hassle talaga e

[gongrhey]

agree pero di ba the basics are learned using Mongol #2 pencil. tech pens come in only pag dating na sa mga projects where you submit tech drawings. and in actual practice plans are drawn using pencil only so that it is easy to revise, then pinapa-blue print na lang.

agree the basics are learned using pencil pero hindi mongol #2 gamit namin; HB, H o kaya F pencil. yung tech pen pag gagamit na ng tracing paper. well, those were the days.

* topic, ingat talaga sa tech pen at masyadong mahal, agree ako dun sa pag-add ng baby oil para di mag-clog.

[admiral88]

Been a steadler user and messy talaga maintenance nyan.
That's right...you use oil para medyo dumulas at mas matagal matuyo.
Dati ba isang sem lang talaga yung drawing subject?
Buti na lang at least...may drawing subject pa kahit isa...kaso parang na-shortcut na yung ginawa.
No wonder why i've seen newly grads...of course knew how to draw...
but didnt know when to use a hidden line or cant properly apply the appropriate dimension lines.
Now...thats really getting messier.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

re: drawing subjects, yung amin e pinapagaya lang yung template na nasa A4 sized bondpaper sa 15x20 na tracing paper. pero ewan ko kung ieexplain ba yung mga hidden line, dimension lines na namention ni sir admiral88.

about sa baby oil, ilalagay ba sya first sa ink reservoir then ang drawing ink, or baliktad? btw nakabili na ako ng disposable na tech pen .1 tig 45 petot.. hahay nanghihinayang lang talaga ako sa .1 ko na steadler.