tama ba to?(part 2)

[badkuk]

this morning i saw this police report on MUB about an accident at Antipolo. Apparently a guy on a motorcycle who was going *counterflow* at high speeds rammed into an incoming pickup. malamang gusto mag overtake using the opposing lane, kaso mas malakas pala ung loob kesa sa motor nya. the guy on the bike died, and the guy driving the pickup is being charged.

tama ba to? comon sense would suggest that the guy on the motorcycle was at fault. in fact, if i was the guy on the pickup and nabuhay ung loko, i'd be suing his ass for reckless driving, reckless imprudence, and outright stupidity, aside from demanding repairs!

[j_avonni]

I think he is being charged because somebody died. What are the charges? Homicide, reckless imprudence? But this is still subject to further investigation as to who really was at fault.

[boybi]

malabo talaga ang mga traffic laws and violations dito lalo na kapag meron accident. sa ibang countries nga, kapag nakabangga ka ng pedestrian na wala sa pedestrian lane (jaywalking), yung pedestrian pa magbabayad sa damages sa car mo. dito parang ang lumalabas kung sino ang mas malaki ang na-damage, sya ang walang kasalanan.

[NightRock]

He needs a tough lawyer.. ma haba haban trial yan..

[silhouette]

ang masakit dyan, kulong ka muna while on trial. tapos if found not guilty...hehe wala lang.

[mazdamazda]

AFAIK... involuntary manslaughter ang kaso jan.

[jvdejesus05]

ganyan talaga kagulo ang laws ng bansa natin... sad to say, kung sino ang namatayan or may mas malaking damage sya and kakampihan especially kung mahirap lang yung tao...

[Altis6453]

The case will be referred to the Office of the City Prosecutor for preliminary investigation. During this phase, the police have to present evidence to the prosecutor that a crime had been committed by the suspect. I don't think their investigative skills can go that far. They'd have to get witnesses to the incident to testify and establish how the pickup driver was supposedly negligent while driving in his lane. If he has a good lawyer, he can get the case dismissed sa PI stage pa lang.

[DoctorDoom]

malabo talaga ang mga traffic laws and violations dito lalo na kapag meron accident. sa ibang countries nga, kapag nakabangga ka ng pedestrian na wala sa pedestrian lane (jaywalking), yung pedestrian pa magbabayad sa damages sa car mo. dito parang ang lumalabas kung sino ang mas malaki ang na-damage, sya ang walang kasalanan.

We haven't read the entire police report on that matter, so it's difficult to judge the action of the police. The standard procedure is the police "Invites" the affected parties for preliminary investigation. After the preliminary investigation and sufficient evidence is found that warrants a charge, that's the time that charges are filed.

In the case mentioned in this thread, we are not privy to the details of the police investigation. I don't think it is standard practice to automatically charge whoever is the "surviving" driver in a traffic accident.

Also, if you are charged with a non-henious, the "suspect" can post bail so he does not have to stay in jail while the case is ongoing.

[Field Master]

Medyo OT pero share ko lang almost same experience ko.

I'm driving Sentra way back 1997 along Batangas-Laguna National Highway on way back to Manila. It was noon time and I'm cruising (50-80km/hr) on inner lane while a jeepney is on my front. Not much traffic at that time then all of the sudden the jeepney on my front make a fast change lane going outside. This was very brief and when he cleared the lane I saw an incoming ambulance right in my front with all his emergency light flashing. Without any thinking and without looking if the other lane is clear I pulled my car on outer lane and thanks God I made it safe. For few seconds I was speechless and stunned so was my fiance sitting on passenger side.
Should my luck doesnt play good that time and I got a head-on sino kaya ang may kasalanan?

[falken]

If the motorcycle driver counterflowed and got killed, the driver of the pickup truck should not be held accountable. After all, it was his fault. They should change traffic laws over here, hindi porke't may namatay may kasalanan agad yung nakabanggaan niya.

[nugundam93]

i'd put ALL the blame on the bike driver, especially if the pickup was in the right lane.

what if the pickup had no chance to avoid the bike, like may katabi siya or even if he brakes, a head-on impact is still inevitable?

[wowiesy]

sa pagkaka alam ko.. basta may namatay sa road accident, the presumption is yung kabilang party (yung nakapatay) ang may fault... subject to evidence and investigation of course.... pero kung wala naman namatay, the police is there to (sort of) be the middle party for a settlement, if any...

sa pagkaka intindi ko rin.. kaya may presumption na yung nakapatay ang may fault ay dahil sa super laki ng halaga na inilalagay ng batas sa buhay... in english, the value of life, above all.... but then if the police report and other testimony can prove that ang mali talaga ay yung namatayan, then walang laban ang namatayan, at sa fiscal's office pa lang ay dismiss na ang kaso.. yun nga lang.. that is after ka makulong for about 48 hours habang nagkakaroon ng inquest proceedings...

so key dito yung pag construct ng police report.. hehe. minsan dito pa lang nagkakaroon na ng gapangan... if you make the police / investigator friendly to you.. medyo kikiling sa yo yung police report and you can make it really look like hindi mo talaga fault...

another tip... kahit pa sabihin na wala ka talagang fault at yung namatay ang may fault dahil aanga-anga siya... it's best not to argue with relatives (na witness ng accident) kung sino may kasalanan... yan ay kung ikaw ang involved sa accident... walang may gugusto na mamatay ang kapwa.. but things happen... let things cool down.. palamigin muna ang ulo ng mga kamag-anak ng namatayan before initiating any talk...

[bluntz]

palpak antipolo bro eh.mga dirty cops yan.im from antipolo so i know

[flakez]

tsk tsk

[creepy]

palpak antipolo bro eh.mga dirty cops yan.im from antipolo so i know

Have to agree. Had my own experience with them.

[cutedoc]

onli in da pilipins... ibang iba talaga ang pinas, ive been to states, pag tumatawid tao dun the cars literally give way kahit malayo pa ang tumatawid they dont speed up, dito other way around, duon pag me traffic violation people are very disciplined to be obedient, well except for a few bastard, diro iba talaga, yup i agree that pinoys are generally hospitable, good and kind, patience pero hanggang dun na lang ba?

[quiksie]

kawawa nga yun driver nagpakulong nalang na hindi naman niya kasalanan. E pano pag nakapark ka lang tapos namatay yun bumangga sayo. Sana may nabuhay o may witness para malakas ang laban mo sa kaso

[kaloi]

Our traffic laws here in the Phils. are almost the same sa tate. hindi po laws ang may problema. tao po ang may problema. kaya matino mga tao, lalo na mga pinoy, sa tate kasi ayaw ng mga tao dun mahuli at magkaroon ng bad record. kasi nga wala silang padrino dun na aayos ng kaso nila at hindi rin sila nababayaran dun dahil nakakahiya sa kanila(cops) kapag nahuli kang nangongotong. Kung mga loko-loko lang din naman ang pag uusapan mas hayup ang mga violators nila dun. minsan lang kung mag violate ng traffic rules preo sandamukal naman ang casualties.(watch maximum exposure sa AXN channel)

[EL Chicane]

Kung mga loko-loko lang din naman ang pag uusapan mas hayup ang mga violators nila dun. minsan lang kung mag violate ng traffic rules preo sandamukal naman ang casualties.(watch maximum exposure sa AXN channel)

Pre, yung mga napapanood mo sa AXN kaya nila nagagawa yun kasi malaki kalsada nila. Dito kasi sobrang trapik. Isa pa, mabilis mag-respond ang mga pulis dun dahil efficient ang 9-11 service nila. Dito bihira magkahabulan ang mga pulis dahil nakatakas na yung suspect samantalang sampung metro lang ang layo nung presinto.