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    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    An idiot studying in a fully computerized classroom with airconditioning and decent lighting still won't be able to do math sums as well as a hard-working student studying under the mango tree.
    tama ka dyan kabayan. tignan mo ang mga taipan na tsinoy, di naman nagaral mga yan sa IS pero taipan pa din. dati silang magbabakal o tindero ng tsinelas at kung ano-ano pang hirap ang dinaanan nila pero tignan mo ngayon sila ang mga tinitingala ng bayan. itong mga taong ito ang nangarap at nagbuwis ng pawis para umunlad. sabi nga ni einstein, "imagination is more important than knowledge". kahit ilagay mo sa harvard ang isang unggoy, unggoy pa din yun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo
    tama ka dyan kabayan. tignan mo ang mga taipan na tsinoy, di naman nagaral mga yan sa IS pero taipan pa din. dati silang magbabakal o tindero ng tsinelas at kung ano-ano pang hirap ang dinaanan nila pero tignan mo ngayon sila ang mga tinitingala ng bayan. itong mga taong ito ang nangarap at nagbuwis ng pawis para umunlad. sabi nga ni einstein, "imagination is more important than knowledge". kahit ilagay mo sa harvard ang isang unggoy, unggoy pa din yun.
    But these taipans send their kids to IS becuase they can and see the value in an IS education. One notable taipan who studied in ISM is Enrique Zobel. If that's true to everyone then how come di umaasenso yung Pinoy? Daming di nakakapag aral kagaya ng mga taipan. Daming di pumapasok sa Catholic or exclusive school. Dami rin under the guava tree nagaaral. We got loads of imagination. Imagination may indeed be more important than knowledge but Einstein isnt a taipan or even rich. ;)

    Going to a good school makes it easier to make the jump to success with opportunities opened up to them left and right. True there are very rare instances where in the person themselves is the deciding factor whether they're successful or not but these are so far in between compared to those who went to a high caliber school that it makes a good plot for a movie. True a lot of FOB (sorry for the term) Pinoys searching for riches in the US top board exams but they cant hack the lifestyle and often times go back to the Philippines.

    Monkeys do not get into Harvard but a lot of monkeys easily gain entrance to public schools. One of the main reasons to get into really good schools is to get the experiences that school of that caliber can only give you and to be in the same social circle these schools tend to attract. Given a choice an employer will choose a Harvard grad over those from La Salle, Ateneo and UP unless of course the employer cant afford the rates the Harvard can demand.

    Before anyone replies I'm not out to insult or put down those who come from humble schools. I have relatives & friends who come from humble educational backgrounds so I can see what is open and closed to them.

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    hehe mango tree

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    Coconut hurts more.





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    ^hehe unggoy and mango tree...bagay!

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    Si Bill Gates drop-out ng Harvard... ahihi.

    Back to topic: mahal nga schooling. And yes, graduating from a school with cachet is a distinct advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flagg
    Si Bill Gates drop-out ng Harvard... ahihi.

    Back to topic: mahal nga schooling. And yes, graduating from a school with cachet is a distinct advantage.
    Mismong drop-out ng Harvard is the world's richest man. What more can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTO
    Mismong drop-out ng Harvard is the world's richest man. What more can you?
    sabi ng mga matatanda si Henry Sy daw dati nakasando lang kung magtinda ng sapatos dyan sa Carriedo. tapos dun una natayo ang first Shoemart, Sm carriedo. HS din ata lang natapos ni Henry sy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    sabi ng mga matatanda si Henry Sy daw dati nakasando lang kung magtinda ng sapatos dyan sa Carriedo. tapos dun una natayo ang first Shoemart, Sm carriedo. HS din ata lang natapos ni Henry sy.
    But he'll probably be the first person to say he wished he stayed in school. ;) The fella has old school Chinese work ethic that not a lot of people can master.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTO
    Mismong drop-out ng Harvard is the world's richest man. What more can you?
    Now, now, the operative word is drop-out. He chose to leave, illustrating the fact that it is the individual who makes his own fate. For Mr. Gates, the school was not everything.

    Education is a tool. You can chop a tree with an axe, you can do it faster with a chainsaw, but without your own hands, the tool just sits there. Of course, it's nicer to be from Harvard than AMA, just like it's nicer to have a chainsaw rather than an axe.

    Btw, I really dunno what more can I...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTO
    Mismong drop-out ng Harvard is the world's richest man. What more can you?

    Eh yung famous dropout ng Ateneo? Isa siya sa Phil. richest din, di ba? Yun nga lang, binanatan siya ng plunder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap
    Eh yung famous dropout ng Ateneo? Isa siya sa Phil. richest din, di ba? Yun nga lang, binanatan siya ng plunder.

    psssst! wag kang maingay! PARE ko yon.

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    Hehe, naniniwala kasi ako sa swerte/mga bagay na ukol sa buhay ng isang tao, kaya hindi masyadong issue sakin ang school (huwag naman sobrang baba ng quality, katamtaman lang). :D

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    I think it was Steve Jobs who, in a speech given to Ivy Leaguers, told them bluntly that though he didn't come from a fancy school, he was a billionaire, while they could only ever aspire to be vice presidents. Or something to that effect. Harvard guarantees you interviews for the good jobs, but it doesn't guarantee you can keep it. Of course, if you pass entrance for Harvard, you've got to be pretty good in the first place.

    Tama nga, there's a reason Bill Gates dropped out. He wasn't learning what he needed to know, and he wasn't accomplishing anything.

    I, for one, actually intend to take my MBA at a good school. I don't really discount the value of a good education, but there's a point of diminishing returns. You can only teach so much more at Harvard than at Ateneo or AIM... and most of that is down to the experience and ability of the professors involved. In fact, through extra-curricular reading and practice, you can learn much more.

    The biggest value from going to a "better" school is that transfer of experience and the connections you make, with teachers, with other students, with institutions. While the name of the school looks impressive on your resume, that only serves to get one foot in the door. The rest really depends on how good you really are.

    RE: The comment about people who can't hack it in the US: That only serves to illustrate my point. They graduate from the same school as others... pass the same qualification exams, but they don't have it in them to go as far as the other guy or girl, who slugs it out and comes out on top of their profession.

    And hey, who said it was the board toppers who were coming back because they couldn't cut it? Those who come back are the ones who went merely for the money, and who don't love their job. If they'd stayed, they'd be out of work here anyway. Most of the excellent ones who do come back, come back to study more, to teach others who want to go (though this kind of dedication to the advancement of the profession is getting rare nowadays), or to set up business locally. Life in the US isn't always the end goal of everyone who goes.

    The education is a tool, yes. And a very good one. But it's not the only tool. The best tool is yourself.
    Last edited by niky; June 24th, 2006 at 04:45 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    The biggest value from going to a "better" school is that transfer of experience and the connections you make, with teachers, with other students, with institutions. While the name of the school looks impressive on your resume, that only serves to get one foot in the door. The rest really depends on how good you really are.
    Yup yup... good point.

    From my post grad studies what mattered most is the experience that I got from my fellow students. In some subjects, they are even more knowledgeable than our textbook facilitator.

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    [QUOTE=niky]
    The biggest value from going to a "better" school is that transfer of experience and the connections you make, with teachers, with other students, with institutions. While the name of the school looks impressive on your resume, that only serves to get one foot in the door. The rest really depends on how good you really are.



    plus confidence that is reflected on your personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky

    The education is a tool, yes. And a very good one. But it's not the only tool. The best tool is yourself.

    very true. I took a tri-mestral 4 year course from one of the best computer schools in our country today. I manage to get a meager paying job as in-house technician to a major IT ompany that serves banks.

    I took a 5-day course from a commercialized training school in Makati. I went on opening up my own business and went as far as opening up to 3 profiting branches. the key -> passion and loving what you do.

    now I've lost the passion and have made several attempts to bring back the old enthusiastic me but I failed. I closed my branches this summer alone and now, I'm contemplating on closing the last one. The funny thing is I seem to have a happy thought when I imagine closing the last one ... weird! hehehe

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    ETON ang matindi, dito 44,000 usd/year lang...

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...205329,00.html

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