Sweldo ng Family driver

[Mguy]

How much ang going rate sweldo ng family driver? Usually ang arrangement yan either stay in or uwian. Baka iba ang sweldo for each arrangement. Thanks.

[Harangody]

9k samin, day-off Sunday tapos maaga alis pag Saturday.

[_Cathy_]

How much do you give your STAY IN drivers?

We convinced our driver (of more than a decade) to stay in with us and he'll move in with his family (4) My Mom said we'll cover for their utilities pero I said we should have a sub meter for the electricity hehe. I know the rate is different kasi pag stay in sa stay out. He will only work 5 days a week.

[bmacavanza]

in 2012; 9k per month, + sss, stay in for 7 days, single, food/water/power included, full time stay in, meron own room, all around na din, such as cleaning cars, garage cleaning, house maintenance & repairs, & others. Dati ko siya side kick/alalay during my construction days since 2000. Trusted, kahit bigyan mo ng 20k, safe sa kanya.

How much do you give your STAY IN drivers?

We convinced our driver (of more than a decade) to stay in with us and he'll move in with his family (4) My Mom said we'll cover for their utilities pero I said we should have a sub meter for the electricity hehe. I know the rate is different kasi pag stay in sa stay out. He will only work 5 days a week.

[_Cathy_]

Totoo talaga kasabihan na hindi mo makikilala ang tao hanggang makasama mo sa bahay. So our driver has been staying in with us for over a year now and in over 10 yrs na uwian siya, all praises kami, pero nung nag stay in, wala pa 3 mos may issue na lumabas.

Anyway, pinaka malaking issue namin yung nawawala siya sa bahay, labas ng labas withous us knowing. In one week, he drives once or twice a week kapag may lakad Mommy ko. I drive myself naman and I rarely ask him to drive for me, kapag lang mahirap parking or out of ramge. Ilang beses na siya pinagsabihan pero WALA nangyayari. It is so frustrating. Sa bahay kasi naman we never step out without telling someone. Abnormal ba bahay namin or normal ba lumabas ng hindi nagsasabi?

Another issue since wala naman siya ginagawa sa bahay. We even encouraged him na mag sideline na mag repair ng houses here in our area along with his driver friend (driver ng neighbor namin) Kaya lang nangyari in one month twice lang siya nag drive at kami pa nag adjust sa schedule niya. Aalis ng 7 am (after feeding my dog and cleaning her area) babalik ng 6 pm, nakahanda na food niya. Nainis na ko when I had an important appointment sa lugar na mahirap parking and he didn't show up. Nalimutan pala at nasa bubong ng ginagawa nila kaya di narinig phone. I was so irritated. I talked to him after na kami ang MAIN JOB not the sideline. He gets his salary in full, 2 days off in a week tapos yung once or twice a week na mag drive siya mawawala pa siya? Anyway, na kwento ko kay SO and he said di nagagawa ng long time driver nila yan mawala wala kasi theirs gates are locked pero mahaba din patience niya because their driver is worse (lasenggo at adik pa ata haha) Our driver said summer lang naman yun since pag ulanan wala na silang sideline

Here is why I am so pissed now. So dahil ulanan na, wala ng repair job, mukhang nakahanap ng ibang sideline. Nagpaalam na mawawala siya ng 10 days kasi may namatay daw na relative. Pero yung alis niya 10 days from now. Meron ba binuburol ng 2 weeks??? Nung una hindi ko na process so I said babawiin niya 10 days niya na wala siyang off or one day off lang but everyone told me dapat no pay yun or advance. I talked to him again and he said advance. The thing is, he already gave us that namatay excuse pre pandemic, bigla nag resign. May nahanap pala na ibang employer mataas sweldo siguro. Ang hinala namin lahat may sideline siya kasi he does drive for a balikbayan na yearly umuuwi. I think umuwi now and of course malaki bigay. Kaya asar na asar ako kasi hindi pa ko regular sa bank and I will need to request for WFH arrangement. Nung May ONE MONTH ako WFH so ayoko na sana mag request ng June, but what can I do. Wala mag papakain sa Fat Lab ko.

My fear is this will be habitual na every time may mas mataas na bigay na racket e he will ask for a leave. Kasi nung sideline nga niya as repairs, hindi naman siya nahiya for MONTHS na bilang sa daliri mag drive siya at kami pa adjust sa schedule niya. Hirap kasi maghanap ng kapalit since we have known him for over a decade saka ang maganda hindi malikot kamay because he stays in my room pag pakainin fat lab ko and I have my jewelry in the dresser. Never had issues there. Pero yun lang issue ko nawawala bigla tapos kami ang lumalabas na sideline niya when he gets paid in full. There was even a month na TWICE lang siya nag drive kasi busy dyan sa sideline niya!

My question is how do I prevent this na maging habitual yan long leave niya pero ang totoo mag sideline ng driving sa iba. He knows kasi wala naman siya ginagawa dito, but still, he is paid to be here! I told my Mom to tell him na next time he goes on long leave hindi na pwede advance. No work no pay na (but that would not matter kung mas malaki racket niya sa kabila) Told my Mom also to tell him na I have to pay for the days na WFH ako

BTW since he stayed in with us at nakaka double job sila, sobrang tumaas na rin lifestyle nila, nagpa kabit aircon, vacations, eating out etc. Tapos he even wanted to borrow from me to buy his son a NEW lenovo laptop. AKo nga naghihingalo na laptop ko and bought this Jan 2022 pa. Totoo bang all students now can't study without a laptop? They are living a middle class lifestyle na nga. Kami nga hindi nago out of town sa beach for YEARS. He doesn't even appreciate that working for us is giving him that upgraded lifestyle. Nagmalaki pa asawa niya na madami daw kumukuha sa asawa niya at madali makahanap ng work. She was blaming us kasi na nagka babae husband niya kasi wala daw ginagawa samin. WTF.

My Mom saw nga in one of their celebrations ang daming sugpo. I can't even remember the last time we bought sugpo, maybe pandemic pa? so my Mom said bili nga kami sugpo LOL. Yung mga kids niya mukhang maluho din, puro designer brands though I assume it's fake because I don't think they could buy 6 digit worth bags. Hindi ako marunong tumingin phone pero di ako magtataka kung naka iphone yan. I'm not saying wala sila karapratan magluho pero baka kaya money is never enough.

[bmacavanza]

simple solution........replace your driver...beyond repair.....kung ako ayan......i no longer safe sa driver na ganyan.............

[_Cathy_]

simple solution........replace your driver...beyond repair.....kung ako ayan......i no longer safe sa driver na ganyan.............

Hirap maghanap ng stay in na trustworthy since puro senior sa house

Re safety pala. He is always sleepy or distracted when driving. Probably dahil pagod sa sideline niya as helper sa house repair. Wife also said mahilig uminom sa gabi though never smelled him since his house is at the back of our house so he comes and go without us noticing.

Several times na he almost rear ended a vehicle. I also noticed before kasi super smooth at tipid niya mag drive pero now parang galit umapak sa gas tapos sumusubsob mag brake. I don't know why he is acting this way because EVERYONE says we are good employers. Lahat ng tauhan namin lifetime samin pero seems like naging complacent na siya knowing how I cannot afford to replace him.

[Walter]

You're an idiot ... and you're reasoning for not firing him is stupid ... No driver? Rent a vehicle with driver ... He's going to continue abusing you're kindness until you break ...

[Walter]

Driver is testing the limits of your patience ... then you will have enough ... then he will say sorry and promise to be better ... then he will do the same things again ... and repeat cycle ...

[Miles_on]

You're an idiot ... and you're reasoning for not firing him is stupid ... No driver? Rent a vehicle with driver ... He's going to continue abusing you're kindness until you break ...

Matagal nang issue yan.

A long, long time ago... the question posted on the forum was about the feasibility of letting a driver (I presume it's this same guy) become a stay in one at their house. General consensus here was that it was NOT a good idea.

As typical though, paikot-ikot lang yung discussion, and despite every (well meaning) forum member here saying not to do so, ayun... natuloy pa rin. Fast forward a few years and eto na yung discussion in this thread.

Sayang lang laway...

[Motortrend]

Matagal nang issue yan.

A long, long time ago... the question posted on the forum was about the feasibility of letting a driver (I presume it's this same guy) become a stay in one at their house. General consensus here was that it was NOT a good idea.

As typical though, paikot-ikot lang yung discussion, and despite every (well meaning) forum member here saying not to do so, ayun... natuloy pa rin. Fast forward a few years and eto na yung discussion in this thread.

Sayang lang laway...

I think you are referring to this thread.

Would You Let a Whole Family Move In (Temporarily)?

[_Cathy_]

You're an idiot ... and you're reasoning for not firing him is stupid ... No driver? Rent a vehicle with driver ... He's going to continue abusing you're kindness until you break ...

It's hard to find a driver that is trustworthy and loyal kaya. I need a stay in driver in since it gives me peace of mind (when I am out) knowing that he is at home for the seniors. He has been driving for us for over a decade, sayang naman. He also takes care of my dogs (since he rarely drives) hehe. Our all around that's been with us for more than a decade din nag AWOL na, though he still leaves fruits/veggies na tamin niya every now and then, nag tampo ata when we had our driver stay in na. Main issue ko lang yung alis ng alis ng bahay hindi nagpapa alam at yan mga sideline niya.

[_Cathy_]

Matagal nang issue yan.

A long, long time ago... the question posted on the forum was about the feasibility of letting a driver (I presume it's this same guy) become a stay in one at their house. General consensus here was that it was NOT a good idea.

As typical though, paikot-ikot lang yung discussion, and despite every (well meaning) forum member here saying not to do so, ayun... natuloy pa rin. Fast forward a few years and eto na yung discussion in this thread.

Sayang lang laway...

Different circumstances that time. He was asking to move in with his family temporarily while they were having their house built. I did listen to tsikoteers and didn't let him move in with his whole family. The money we lent him for the house construction in 2017 until now hindi pa bayad yung balance, kinalimutan na ata

Last year we asked him to move in. We built them a separate house in our backyard (enough for his family) because originally the plan was for me to move sa US and I felt more comfortable na yung driver naka stay in, but then I decided to come back so we just kept the old arrangement.

[GTcervan]

You're an idiot ... and you're reasoning for not firing him is stupid ... No driver? Rent a vehicle with driver ... He's going to continue abusing you're kindness until you break ...

Ngl. Medyo natawa ako dun sa first phrase lol. Based.

[dr. d]

It's hard to find a driver that is trustworthy and loyal kaya. I need a stay in driver in since it gives me peace of mind (when I am out) knowing that he is at home for the seniors. He has been driving for us for over a decade, sayang naman. He also takes care of my dogs (since he rarely drives) hehe. Our all around that's been with us for more than a decade din nag AWOL na, though he still leaves fruits/veggies na tamin niya every now and then, nag tampo ata when we had our driver stay in na. Main issue ko lang yung alis ng alis ng bahay hindi nagpapa alam at yan mga sideline niya.

we had a colleague once.
his driver was the most loyal and as good a driver as it can be.
but soon he was getting on in years, and it was beginning to show in his driving.
marster then retired him with a significant retirement package.
then he got a much younger replacement.

[Miles_on]

I think you are referring to this thread.
Would You Let a Whole Family Move In (Temporarily)?

Yes ULS, that thread.

Different circumstances that time. He was asking to move in with his family temporarily while they were having their house built. I did listen to tsikoteers and didn't let him move in with his whole family. The money we lent him for the house construction in 2017 until now hindi pa bayad yung balance, kinalimutan na ata

Last year we asked him to move in. We built them a separate house in our backyard (enough for his family) because originally the plan was for me to move sa US and I felt more comfortable na yung driver naka stay in, but then I decided to come back so we just kept the old arrangement.

Cathy, ask anyone here (except perhaps Kags) and they will say that that guy is a SLEAZE BUCKET. I wouldn't let him within 50 meters of my property or have any dealings with him based on the facts you provided.

Maybe you did listen and did not let him move in back then (good), but you eventually DID invite him to stay (with family) and now he's giving you problems (as usual). That negates the first half of the previous sentence (in other words, eh di ginawa mo rin).

Let's say you're desperate because you'd feel better na may kasama yung mga seniors at home, but as you've said, he's barely there anyway so what's the point? Kung may bigla emergency and he's out fooling around somewhere, the seniors will have to fend for themselves. And despite everything he's repeatedly been doing over the years you guys say you trust him??? Wake up, all of you.

By analogy, It's like reasoning I'm leaving my young daughter in the care of a pedophile, because I don't want her to be left all alone (!?!?!?) with some stranger I don't know. Di bale, I've known this pedo for a long time naman eh. Mahirap kasi makahanap ng mapagkakatiwalaan na iba (ha!?!?!)

Oi, I only mean well.
I'm probably the only one in the forum, saying out loud what every one else is thinking naman din.

Ngl. Medyo natawa ako dun sa first phrase lol. Based.

"Brutal" yung mga ibang members kay Cathy at times. Sometimes, a little tough love is needed.

Can't say I blame him. Frustrating si Cathy minsan to be honest.

From the time na may manyak siyang office mate; may gullible friend (alias "He Huang" ) siyang dating a married man who's obviously playing around; and now this sleazy stay in driver to give a few examples... forum members here would voice their indignation at the situation, and then offer sound advice, which often goes out the other ear. After a really long winded discussion, ganun pa rin mangyayari (haaay). Then some time later, a new follow up thread would come up complaining about the result. Paulit ulit lang.

Mabuti nga medyo nag-mature na (konti) eh. In the old days, aawayin pa yung member(s) that are only trying to help.

[Motortrend]

Different circumstances that time. He was asking to move in with his family temporarily while they were having their house built. I did listen to tsikoteers and didn't let him move in with his whole family. The money we lent him for the house construction in 2017 until now hindi pa bayad yung balance, kinalimutan na ata

Last year we asked him to move in. We built them a separate house in our backyard (enough for his family) because originally the plan was for me to move sa US and I felt more comfortable na yung driver naka stay in, but then I decided to come back so we just kept the old arrangement.

Different circumstances perhaps but the underlying considerations pointed out by the members here are still the same. Seeing a lot of tough love here. Can't say I blame them.

[Walter]

It's hard to find a driver that is trustworthy and loyal kaya. I need a stay in driver in since it gives me peace of mind (when I am out) knowing that he is at home for the seniors. He has been driving for us for over a decade, sayang naman. He also takes care of my dogs (since he rarely drives) hehe. Our all around that's been with us for more than a decade din nag AWOL na, though he still leaves fruits/veggies na tamin niya every now and then, nag tampo ata when we had our driver stay in na. Main issue ko lang yung alis ng alis ng bahay hindi nagpapa alam at yan mga sideline niya.

Your definition of trustworthy and loyal is kind of strange ... loyal but then prioritizes the sidelines ...

There is no such thing as "sayang" with regards to bad employees ... Your "all around" has more sense than you, he knew the problems that would come with the so-called "trustworthy" driver ... so he left to avoid becoming the patsy for whatever the driver is going to cause in the future ...

[Walter]

If the driver indeed has a drinking problem ... one of these days you're going find out how messy things can become ...