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    #21
    If competant people will decide and run it, why not. Politicians should not run a public utillity. Best example is the MRT-LRT system. Three incompatible systems, almost daily breakdown, and fares based on populist policies rather than economics...

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    Quote Originally Posted by badsekktor View Post
    as long as it would make the power rates go down then i'm up for it!
    It would still depend on the percentage power mix nuclear power would bring. If we have enough nuclear power stations to make large fraction of the total, it will surely make a big effect on the price of electricity.

    In Japan, US, and other european countries, nuclear power stations supply a large percentage of the total. If they continue wth the current trend of not replacing old and decommissioned nuke stations, they would quickly see the cost of electricity go up.

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    #23
    FYI lang. may proposal nyan dati si bert gonzales (former DND sec) na mga pocket nuke plants na lang ang gamitin. parang yung sa mga submarine ng US.

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    Yes to nuclear power provided...

    - They hire and train the best and the brightest engineers and technicians. Walang "palakasan", "kamaganak" or "kaprobinsya". Yeah, right. That will happen when hell freezes over.

    - Locate the plant as far away from Metro Manila as possible.

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    ..hire and train the best and the brightest engineers and technicians..
    they're all working abroad

    hehe

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    Ano ba yung nabasa ko na ang Germany daw unti unti nang nagbabawas ng Reactor nila

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    ^^^

    natakot sa nangyari sa fukushima

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    #28
    Nuclear is on the decline. Environmental fears, partially, but also the up-front costs of any plant that meets all safety and environmental requirements is enormous.

    There's also the small problem of nuclear fuel being an exhaustible resource. If the whole world went nuclear, we'd run out of the stuff sooner than we would run out of oil.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    Yes to nuclear power provided...

    - They hire and train the best and the brightest engineers and technicians. Walang "palakasan", "kamaganak" or "kaprobinsya". Yeah, right. That will happen when hell freezes over.

    - Locate the plant as far away from Metro Manila as possible.
    Ok lang if we locate two in MM? ... one under the senate and the other under congress. hehehe

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Nuclear is on the decline. Environmental fears, partially, but also the up-front costs of any plant that meets all safety and environmental requirements is enormous.
    It is but natural that fears have come into play after the accident in japan. But if people would just see that the power-station in japan is of an old obsolete design, it still held back over 99% of the radiation within it's containment walls. More modern design can cope with disaster that hit the fukushima plant.

    The root cause of the explosion is the condenser tank. It was too small. Modern plants and updated old plant have a much larger condenser tank which would have prevented the events leading to the reactor vessel explosion.


    There's also the small problem of nuclear fuel being an exhaustible resource. If the whole world went nuclear, we'd run out of the stuff sooner than we would run out of oil.
    Thorium nuclear fuel is more abundant than uranium. Plus, it "burns" more completely leaving less waste. The waste from Thorium is much more difficult to convert into weapons grade plutonium, plus the volume is much less (a major concern when using nuclear waste from uranium). And the waste can be converted by nuclear alchemy into lesser elements with much shorter half-life (hours instead of decades & centuries) so long term storage is not required.

    If the whole world went nuclear, we won't be having the problem because even plutonium can be used to generate more nuclear fuel. Only reason its not done anymore is the security risk in civilian installations.

    And as mentioned, uranium is not the only nuclear fuel available. There is the more abundant Thorium.

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Ok lang if we locate two in MM? ... one under the senate and the other under congress. hehehe
    I'll sleep better knowing this, if ever. :hysterical:
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    #32
    fukushima game changer


    BBC News - Siemens to quit nuclear industry

    Siemens to quit nuclear industry

    The move is a response to the Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan in March, chief executive Peter Loescher said.

    He told Spiegel magazine it was the firm's answer to "the clear positioning of German society and politics for a pullout from nuclear energy".

    "The chapter for us is closed," he said, announcing that the firm will no longer build nuclear power stations.

    BBC News - Germany: Nuclear power plants to close by 2022

    Germany: Nuclear power plants to close by 2022

    Germany's coalition government has announced a reversal of policy that will see all the country's nuclear power plants phased out by 2022.

    The decision makes Germany the biggest industrial power to announce plans to give up nuclear energy.

    Environment Minister Norbert Rottgen made the announcement following late-night talks.

    Chancellor Angela Merkel set up a panel to review nuclear power following the crisis at Fukushima in Japan.

    There have been mass anti-nuclear protests across Germany in the wake of March's Fukushima crisis, triggered by an earthquake and tsunami.

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    #33
    Year 2022 .... That is about just over ten years from now.

    We can wait and see what happens in 2022 to their power generation mix when it shifts more into fossil fuel based power plants and electric bills start to march upwards. We might see more protests in Germany again but this time for lower power rates and maybe reconsideration of the decision to stop use of nuke stations back in 2011...

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Ok lang if we locate two in MM? ... one under the senate and the other under congress. hehehe
    Huwag! Baka magkaroon ng buwayang Dr. Manhattan

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    Bala yan ng mga anti nuke advocates, sasabihin nila kung mga Aleman nga ayaw na sa Nuklear bakit ang mga indiong nakatira sa maliit atkalat kalat na isla sa pasipiko nagpupumilit mag nuklear...blah blah blah..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Ok lang if we locate two in MM? ... one under the senate and the other under congress. hehehe
    Godzirra!!!

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    Mahal ng kuryente ngayon....

    Subukan natin kahit ano.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    Mahal ng kuryente ngayon....

    Subukan natin kahit ano.....

    14.1K:tvcomedy:
    Ibenta nalang ng Gov't sa CD-R King ang BNPP, mapapatakbo nila yan with their goods. :D

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