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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Good plan, Vinj. But just some quick info re: Northrail which I had a chance to be part of early in my career:

    1. There's no cohesive plan by government to resolve the right-of-way issues needed by the project. In short, ayaw maglabas or walang mailabas na pera.

    2. There have been several suppliers who've proposed to construct, operate and maintain the project on turnkey basis (para halos walang gastos ang gov), but most of them have given up due to the lack of momentum and ever-changing policy directions from DOTC and BCDA (then the lead agency)

    3. Northrail has been in the pipeline of the government since 1998 (Ramos' Presidency) and it hasn't moved from drawings and studies since then so....draw your own conclusions. Back then, Northrail was envisioned to be a rapid rail system connecting NAIA to Clark International Airport.
    Sad that this project has not taken off. I noticed during the last years of the GMA admin they were clearing out the squatters from the line in quite a lot of areas based on my observations.

    A high volume, and efficient railway system from the NCR to the north and south would make a good long-term solution to our congestion in the NCR. It is a given that Metro Manila will be difficult to decentralize but if people lived in the outlying provinces such as Bulacan, Pampanga, Cavite, Laguna and there was a railway that will take one straight to the CBDs just like it is in other civilizations, then you cut Manila traffic drastically especially with the big schools having campuses in areas such as Sta. Rosa, Cavite and Pampanga. Heck, if that was the case i'd already be building my own home in Pampanga and taking the train to work every day.

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    nung unang nakatunhtong kami sa Ortigas pasig hindi ganun kagrabe ang traffic pero now sobrang traffic tapos tsambahan pa na mabuksan ang counterflow kung hindi Ortigas Ever to Ipi kailangan mo gumastos sa oras nang 30-45mins pero kung walang traffic nasa 5-10mins lang.

    Ang maganda lang sa amin madaming pwedeng alternate route at madaming school kung ayaw mo lumayo.

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    nung unang nakatunhtong kami sa Ortigas pasig hindi ganun kagrabe ang traffic pero now sobrang traffic tapos tsambahan pa na mabuksan ang counterflow kung hindi Ortigas Ever to Ipi kailangan mo gumastos sa oras nang 30-45mins pero kung walang traffic nasa 5-10mins lang.

    Ang maganda lang sa amin madaming pwedeng alternate route at madaming school kung ayaw mo lumayo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Sad that this project has not taken off. I noticed during the last years of the GMA admin they were clearing out the squatters from the line in quite a lot of areas based on my observations.

    A high volume, and efficient railway system from the NCR to the north and south would make a good long-term solution to our congestion in the NCR. It is a given that Metro Manila will be difficult to decentralize but if people lived in the outlying provinces such as Bulacan, Pampanga, Cavite, Laguna and there was a railway that will take one straight to the CBDs just like it is in other civilizations, then you cut Manila traffic drastically especially with the big schools having campuses in areas such as Sta. Rosa, Cavite and Pampanga. Heck, if that was the case i'd already be building my own home in Pampanga and taking the train to work every day.
    That should spell progress bro... And, EVERYONE knows that.

    It is just that our government leaders,- Well,- they do not have the b*lls to implement such required infrastructure to "railroad" progress in the country....

    Another case is the NAIA, as our main international gateway,- procrastination to the max!


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    Quote Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699 View Post
    nung unang nakatunhtong kami sa Ortigas pasig hindi ganun kagrabe ang traffic pero now sobrang traffic tapos tsambahan pa na mabuksan ang counterflow kung hindi Ortigas Ever to Ipi kailangan mo gumastos sa oras nang 30-45mins pero kung walang traffic nasa 5-10mins lang.

    Ang maganda lang sa amin madaming pwedeng alternate route at madaming school kung ayaw mo lumayo.
    Same with our family. When my ninunos first settled down in our area, it was sooooo rural. Now it's one of the areas na sinusumpa for traffic on a daily basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    That should spell progress bro... And, EVERYONE knows that.

    It is just that our government leaders,- Well,- they do not have the b*lls to implement such required infrastructure to "railroad" progress in the country....

    Another case is the NAIA, as our main international gateway,- procrastination to the max!


    "The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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    The railway has been there for more than a hundred years, all it takes is clear directive and direction... and hopefully moderated corruption.

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