Push Start Buttons are stupid

[minicarph]

i watched this youtube video. somehow, he makes sense. I mean why reinvent the wheel tapos pag nag-malfunction could cost you pHp 25K++. pano pag nag-malfunction while you're in a far away place like sa isang resto stop sa Sagada?

this Push Start System is both electronic and wireless. Wifi ka nga sa bahay nag-malfunction ito pa kaya. though it's RFID, it's still an electronic circuit.

[falken]

How hard is it to turn a key?

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[monty_GTV]

How hard is it to turn a key?

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as hard as pushing a button

[boybi]

It's for convenience. I don't have to look for my keys anymore, it's always in my bag.

[oj88]

Hated that guy. He's loud and his editing skills leaves a lot to be desired.

Anyway, about keyless ignitions/push-button ignition.... I can mention a few things off the top of my head:

1. They're for convenience. The same reason why they "re-invented" the manual transmission and made an A/T. Though it does cost more to make and even more to repair, but that's the price of convenience, or more accurately, how much you will have to pay for the convenience.
2. They have gotten pretty good at making them pretty reliable. My parents have a 6-7 year old daily-driven Tucson and the push-button start have NOT failed us one single time.
3. Even physical key ignition switches fail too. Remember the GM fiasco? That was worse, with around 120-something fatalities due to a faulty ignition key switch. Millions of cars worldwide were recalled. No such scandal with push-button ignition.

[dreamur]

Yup..how many times I have dropped my keys in the past and damaging the fob in the process. For women, no more panic searching inside the bag.

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[111prez]

They can provide keyless start/stop but there should be some kind of manual override

[Walter]

It's an interim technology to prepare us for electric vehicles ...

[yebo]

this

Warning: Thieves are using this mystery device to steal cars | Clark Howard

and if i'm a thief, if i know your car has push button start/stop, i'll just wait for you to come near so i can open the passenger door and run away with whatever i can grab.

[niky]

Keyfobs for push-button cars usually have a back-up key to unlock the door, and a passive RFID chip that allows you to start the car by holding the keyfob close to the ignition button.

[minicarph]

there is an incident in FB involving a prestigious mall, bumaba yun guy nilagay niya yun clutch bag nya sa isang SUV, only to find out later in the mall's CCTV cam, na kamukha ng kulay ng SUV nya yun napaglagyan nyan ng clutch bag nya filled with personal cards, cash etc.

so pano nangyari yun, same code?

[cast_no_shadow]

Keyfobs for push-button cars usually have a back-up key to unlock the door, and a passive RFID chip that allows you to start the car by holding the keyfob close to the ignition button.

Yep, ganyan din instruction saken nung dealer.

To add pag nag prompt na lobat yung keyfob, palit battery na agad. May spare keyfob battery na din ako sa bag.


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[minicarph]

yan nga isang prob ko, coz one of our car tipong 2010 pa, lately pag pinu-push ko yun button parang kelangan diinan. so i figure ano ba nagyayaro sa mga soft touch buttons like pag turn on the PC or TV or gadget, di ba usually dumudumi yun contact point ng button internally, minsan spray mo ng contsct cleaner. so what if wala ka daal contact cleaner tapos nasa labas ka, ano yun i-pry open mo yun start stop switch para linisin yun umido. syempre tow na yan sa casa, 5000 sa towing tapos who knows ano icharge ng casa 30k 50k . pansin pag electronic ang nasira sa kasa mas matinde pa mag-charge kaysa mechanical problem, eh yun standard car key mechanical yun, di mo na presyuhan ng mahal yun. sa kotse pag sinabi computer provlem nakow ibig sabihen money money money. kaya good luck na lang senyo, even if you say you bought a car that youll keep in 10 years, say isuzu mux pr montero na start stop, prepare to be charge one time fee ng mga 30k up in something as simple as starting the car

come to think it how much is rifd, it's being used sa groceries, mga $1, how much are key fobs. sa gfroce alarm, sa 1.5k may alarm ka na may 2 key fobs ka na, and of course na start stop switch na i-on lang naman yun starter. that's like so cheap to manufacture, programming sows, eh eprom programming lang yun.

mas magastos pa nga i manufacture ang mechanical keys na unique to each and every car like plate number. pero car manufacturers are somehow marketing push start systems as for premium or totl models only, pero mas mura production cost nila, tapos mas madali i-repair nila pero sayo mas butas ang bulsa mo

[dr. d]

keys versus push start.
it's a personal choice, in my opinion.

but i must agree. there is no such thing as "fool-proof". there are always fools that are fooler beyond expectation.

[TholitzReloaded]

They can provide keyless start/stop but there should be some kind of manual override

There is a manual override an agent showed me when test driven a montero.

[makelovenotwar]

mga tanders talaga....

[cast_no_shadow]

^

Do yourself a favor and watch the video please


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[Yuesford]

Iba iba naman ang taste ng tao pero para sakin ang lakas ng appeal nyang matandang yan 😂😂

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[_Qwerty_]

aliw na aliw ka OB sa push start button, matagal na yan ah diba? wala bang ganyan yung mga sasakyan mo?

[junjulaug]

aliw na aliw ka OB sa push start button, matagal na yan ah diba? wala bang ganyan yung mga sasakyan mo?

Di ka na nasanay dyan puro reklamo lang naman bukambibig nyan.