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    I've just purchased a 20gallon tank and some other stuff to setup our very 1st aquarium. Pangako namin to ni Misis sa anak namin who's now excited about it.

    I'm scheduled to start work on it (clean tank, put gravel, stones, etc, put water) tomorrow evening para in time by Sunday morning sana kami bibili ng fish.

    Sa pag iikot ko sa mga pet shops dito sa area, at sa pagtingin ko sa Cartimar last week (where I bought the tank), medyo nalilito ako kung anong fish ang bibilhin ko...

    Goldfish? Flower horn maganda sya may kamahalan lang... Carp / Koi?

    My daughter is turning 4 by end of this year...

    Help naman po sa mga nakaka alam dyan!

    Salamat

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    goldfish will do...maliit 20 galons for flowerhorn. 2-3 fancy goldfish pwede na siguro sa 20 gallons

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    This should be a good guide....

    Feng Shui Lucky Objects

    AQUARIUM

    An aquarium is considered lucky and can bring prosperity into the house, if it is properly positioned. Fish can also absorb negative chi, particularly the blackmole (blackmoor) variety, which are very sensitive. If you have blackmoles in your tank, and they die easily, check the water temperature, the aerator and the type of fish food. If all there are correct, but the fish are still dying, their death can then be considered as an indication that the house has negative energy.

    In Hongkong, when locals move into new premises, they install near the front door, a fish tank containing six or eight blackmoles and one gold fish. The blackmoles absorb negative vibrations that are inherent in the place, or left behind by previous tenants, dead fish are immediately replaced, and the process continues until all the bad luck is absorbed.

    Locate your aquarium in areas of your house or room that require activity. That would generally be defined as the left(dragon) wall and the front wall. Do not place your aquarium on the right (tiger) wall, or on the rear wall, as these should be steady.

    The shape of your Aquarium:

    Round, cylindrical, hexagonal or rectangular shapes are suitable for an aquarium. It is better not to use square or triangular tanks, as these shapes represent earth and fire which are inimical to the water element. Your aquarium should be aerated to enhance its capacity to activate chi.

    Color and number of fish:

    A predominance of black, gold, or silver is good. Limit the number of red fish, as red conflicts with the water element. The number of fish in the aquarium is also considered. When the purpose is to enhance prosperity, you can have, 1, 6, 8, or 9 fish. Avoid having 2, 5, 7, or 10.

    Your geomancer should consider the energy grid of the house and calculate the influence of the annual moving stars before recommending the positioning of your aquarium.
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    Kahit ano pa ilagay mo (wag lang dalag) , don't forget the janitor fish ha.
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    advise ko lang kasi mangingisda rin ako. bili ka muna ng starter fish like mollies and platies. ok na yung 3-5 fish as starter. why? you need to jumpstart the nitrogen cycle with these fishes first to stablish the bacterias in your filter and the aquarium. these bacterias will be your biological filter. these bacterias live in the gravel and filter. atleast one month is required to complete these cycle otherwise baka weekly ka bumili ng isda. first bacteria to thrive will be the ones to process ammonia (from leftover food, feces and urine of the fish) to nitrites. then new bacterias will thrive to convert nitrite to nitrate. ammonia and nitrites are highly poisonous to fish. nitrate is poisonous but tolerable by the fishes. and nitrate levels are reduced by doing 20% water change at least once a week. and as a rule of thumb, you want a rate of 1inch of fish per gallon of water (adult mollies and platies will be a range of 1.5in to 2in in length. so a 20 gallon aquarium max population for this kind of fish will be 12). goodluck. if you need more guidelines, join us in mypalhs.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by normanenoza View Post
    advise ko lang kasi mangingisda rin ako. bili ka muna ng starter fish like mollies and platies. ok na yung 3-5 fish as starter. why? you need to jumpstart the nitrogen cycle with these fishes first to stablish the bacterias in your filter and the aquarium. these bacterias will be your biological filter. these bacterias live in the gravel and filter. atleast one month is required to complete these cycle otherwise baka weekly ka bumili ng isda. first bacteria to thrive will be the ones to process ammonia (from leftover food, feces and urine of the fish) to nitrites. then new bacterias will thrive to convert nitrite to nitrate. ammonia and nitrites are highly poisonous to fish. nitrate is poisonous but tolerable by the fishes. and nitrate levels are reduced by doing 20% water change at least once a week. and as a rule of thumb, you want a rate of 1inch of fish per gallon of water (adult mollies and platies will be a range of 1.5in to 2in in length. so a 20 gallon aquarium max population for this kind of fish will be 12). goodluck. if you need more guidelines, join us in mypalhs.com

    mollies and platies? ano itsura nun? nitrogen cycle.. yes.. parang naisip ko rin yun na dapat starter fish para yung biologicals sa tubig masimulan.... i plan to put in black gravel (which as per the label I saw eh sabi nag absorb daw ng ammonia to help in controlling nitrates and nitrites... at least yun ang pagkaintindi ko).... i'm also toying with idea of putting in undergravel filter... although naisip ko to clear up the collected dirt sa undergravel would be really a lot of work... so baka overhead filter na lang talaga...

    yung rate of 1 inch of fish per gallon of water... bale yan yung parang population vs water capacity ratio? .... paano papasok yung inch? height ng aquarium? may 20 gallon na mas mababa ang height (dahil width x length nya mas malaki).. may 20 gallon na mas mataas (dahil width x length ng tank is mas maliit)... so same formula pa rin?

    but going back to that.. so per fish may general rule na xx inch in length... so say i want 3 kinds of fish... so i allocate ko na lang yung buong 20gals ko to divide by the right number per kind of fish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Kahit ano pa ilagay mo (wag lang dalag) , don't forget the janitor fish ha.

    i dont recomment janitor fish. keep in mind that no fish will live out of other fishes poo. this is a misconception for janitor fish. and janitor fish grows upto a foot and they grow fast. this will dominate your tank. you want your tank clean and healthy? and just be a responsible pet owner. fish in aquariums are friends not food. hahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by normanenoza View Post
    i dont recomment janitor fish. keep in mind that no fish will live out of other fishes poo. this is a misconception for janitor fish. and janitor fish grows upto a foot and they grow fast. this will dominate your tank. you want your tank clean and healthy? and just be a responsible pet owner. fish in aquariums are friends not food. hahaha!


    hehe.. talking about poo as fish food... i'm also a certified diver.. minsan may na experience na sumama ang tyan habang nasa kalagitnaan ng dive.. tipong hirap ng pigilin talaga.. lakas pa ng agos... so kapit sa coral... then nai discharge yung "sama ng loob" (with the wet suit on!).. hehe.. so after that.. iclear yung "discharge" sa loob ng wet suit.. clean up while still under water....

    napansin ko lang.. kinakain nung mga reef fish yung "discharge" hehe haha..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    This should be a good guide....

    Feng Shui Lucky Objects



    13.3K:springsmile:


    hmmm.... thanks for the tip!! now draw condo layout and send to my mother's suking feng shui expert hehe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    goldfish will do...maliit 20 galons for flowerhorn. 2-3 fancy goldfish pwede na siguro sa 20 gallons
    2 - 3 goldfish na mga gaano kalalaki? =)

    flower horn is nice to look at.. but definitely di ko muna kunin yun since mahal.. have to experience muna yung pag alaga ng aquarium... mamaya eh madaling lumipad yung a few thousand pesos per fish na flower horn hehe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by wowiesy View Post
    2 - 3 goldfish na mga gaano kalalaki? =)

    flower horn is nice to look at.. but definitely di ko muna kunin yun since mahal.. have to experience muna yung pag alaga ng aquarium... mamaya eh madaling lumipad yung a few thousand pesos per fish na flower horn hehe..
    it's up to you ang daming sizes ng mga GF sa cartimar

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    it's up to you ang daming sizes ng mga GF sa cartimar


    GF din gusto ko una... na check ko sa bio research sa megamall.. i didn't realize na ganun na pala kamahal ang GF now.. nung dati bata ako may aquarium din kami sa bahay.. may time na ako ang nag aasikaso... 50 - 80+ lang per piece.. malaki na yun.. now.. grabe... 150 - 450 per piece.. grabe..

    ang hirit pa nung tao sa megamall is that kung sa cartimar ay madali makakuha ng sakit (di ko alam kung fish ang tinutukoy nya o ibang klaseng sakit... medyo masama ang ngisi nya nung sinama nya yun eh hehe)...

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    my daughter grew up seeing all my fishes. i collect american cichlids, mostly geophagus species. all caught her interest.
    on her 5th birthday i decided to bring her to a local fish store for her present. i first showed her a tankful of jumbo goldfishes, she likes them all but never found the liking to take one home.. as we go around and seen all the fishes, only one type never really missed her eye. bettas! betta splendens or the fighting fish. i got her two and a betta tank. and she's happy with them.
    then i realised that what maybe beautiful for me may not be beautiful for my daughter.
    i suggest that you take your daughter for a trip at cartimar.
    and be bitten by the aquarium bug! goodluck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by holdencaulfield View Post
    my daughter grew up seeing all my fishes. i collect american cichlids, mostly geophagus species. all caught her interest.
    on her 5th birthday i decided to bring her to a local fish store for her present. i first showed her a tankful of jumbo goldfishes, she likes them all but never found the liking to take one home.. as we go around and seen all the fishes, only one type never really missed her eye. bettas! betta splendens or the fighting fish. i got her two and a betta tank. and she's happy with them.
    then i realised that what maybe beautiful for me may not be beautiful for my daughter.
    i suggest that you take your daughter for a trip at cartimar.
    and be bitten by the aquarium bug! goodluck!

    nung nagpunta ako sa Cartimar (after a long long time.. ) kahit ako na overwhelm! I'm sure pati yung anak ko ma overwhelm... ang mas mahirap.. baka mamaya ay ano ano pa ang ituro at ipabili hehe...

    american cichlids? ano itsura nun?

    pansin ko lagi fighting fish eh malilit ang tanks... is there a particular reason why?

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    fish actually thrive in hard water. soft purified water will kill them. no need for special filter/s.

    sa 20 gallons i prefer using sponge filter. may mga wattage ang mga powerheads. pinili mo saba yung mababa lang para di mabulabog mga isda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holdencaulfield View Post
    fish actually thrive in hard water. soft purified water will kill them. no need for special filter/s.

    sa 20 gallons i prefer using sponge filter. may mga wattage ang mga powerheads. pinili mo saba yung mababa lang para di mabulabog mga isda.

    ngayon nga i'm thinking of adding sponge filter... but parang ayaw ko magdagdag ng air pump.... and medyo masikip na setup ko ahah... siguro lagay ko sponge kapag namatay / nabawasan yung mga plants hehe..

    yung pumili ako nung pump.. hinabol ko pinaka malaki that would make it sa 20gals... ang hinahabol ko was the maximum turnover ng tubig... hehe..

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    I also don't suggest Neon Tetra's, they are very sensitive fishes. Even in my well established planted tanks, I still loose Neon's on a regular basis. I have now switched to Cardnilas which are more hardy fishes. I currently have 4 aquariums and the favourite of my kids is my 5 gallon planted aquarium with Red Cherry Shrimps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wowiesy View Post
    ngayon nga i'm thinking of adding sponge filter... but parang ayaw ko magdagdag ng air pump.... and medyo masikip na setup ko ahah... siguro lagay ko sponge kapag namatay / nabawasan yung mga plants hehe..

    yung pumili ako nung pump.. hinabol ko pinaka malaki that would make it sa 20gals... ang hinahabol ko was the maximum turnover ng tubig... hehe..
    huwag kang mag-add. palitan mo na lang yung powerhead mo. baka naman sa lakas ng pinili mong powerhead nagparang washing machine na yung aquarium mo? hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by holdencaulfield View Post
    huwag kang mag-add. palitan mo na lang yung powerhead mo. baka naman sa lakas ng pinili mong powerhead nagparang washing machine na yung aquarium mo? hehe
    Di pa naman washing machine hehe. Itinapat ko yung buga ng power head sa shorter length ng tank para d gaano mabulabog sa agos ng tubig.

    I tested the water kanina n ammonia is now zero, nitrite is still 5ppm. This is after 1 week, so mukhang tama yung 2 weeks conditioning... 1 week to let the ammonia eating bacteria to grow, hopefully another week to let the nitrite eating bacteria to develop. After that okay na siguro yung top up na lang n once a week palit ng 20% ng tubig. But parang nagsisisi ako at 20gals lang to kinuha ko. Parang masyadoblimited ang choices ng fish hehe. Mas gusto ko talaga flowerhorn or arrowana e.

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    ^it's good you know how to check your water parameters. the bigger the aquarium, the better. much less maintenance and it allows you to add in more fish.
    i like arowanas and sometimes the fh. boring lang kasi panoorin yung nag-iisa. sa bagay, kanya-kanya yan. dagdag aquarium ka na lang! yung 20gals mo gawin mo na lang hospital tank/treatment tank.

    btw, to know the right food for your fish, know in what part of the tank they usually stay. bottom dwellers prefer sinking food. mid swimmers can either have floating or sinking food. near-surface dwellers take floating food. yung location ng mouth din ng isda can give you a tip on what kind of food you can give. i give a variety of food. may isdang kasing masasawain.

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