Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
hehehe, bear me with *sir flagg

what is it that God always wants us Christians to do?

sacrifice, give up something

now that is opposite of free will. If free will is in effect, we will never sacrifice. and Satan dont want us to sacrifice, he wants us to take to submit to temptations bec. we're free.
Actually, sir, it's not sacrifice.

Learn from Jesus' example: to do what's right.

When Jesus messed up the temple vendors, that wasn't sacrifice. That was an out and out felony (according to the laws of the time). I think it actually felt pretty good, if I were Him. I'm pretty sure that felony was a good thing, though. Selling stuff outside the church is ok pa. Inside? Tsk tsk.

Jesus also kept some pretty good company: armed bodyguards, smart, pretty ladies, tax collectors, etc.

His sacrifice was more a means rather than an end. It was meant to show that what is good is worth dying for.