Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
It's likely the same, both the Qu'ran and the Bible are based on the same Old Testament. It's just that Muslims continued the Jewish practices. And I think that they're also still waiting for the Messiah. I could be wrong.

I don't think that the Arabs are directly descended from those old Kingdoms, but it's an interesting question... hmmmmm.
Quote Originally Posted by Psalm136:2 View Post
The Quran was written by Muhammad long after the New Testament was written (di nga lang na-distribute widely dahil wala pang publishing house noon ) I would say the Quran was not based on the OT but rather, the muslims believed in the prophets, leaders, kings, etc of the OT. The Quran has its own teachings and doctrines, some contrary to the OT, some adhering to it. Most of it is its defense of its principles and teachings, kaya nga tawag nila sa mga "unbelievers" ay infidels. Also it will never be based on the OT mainly because di ba nga galit na galit sila sa mga Jews?

The NT on the other hand also was not based on the OT, but rather it's the fulfillment of what was not achieved - salvation.
my point really was in the first paragraph you guys quoted. the OT appears, to my eyes, to be a justification for Israel to crush everyone around them whether for expansion or defensive or whatever purposes.

my other point is that the Quran probably says "we must defend ourselves against the children of Israel" or something similar. history (and religion) truly is written depending on which side you're on.

as for the antecedents of the Arabs, the Persians are clearly today's Iranians. the Assyrian Empire included today's Syria and Iraq. the closest modern equivalent to the Philistines are the Palestinians, although it's messy given that the Philistines were first assimilated into the Babylonian empire, then the Assyrian. so they're probably all over Egypt, Syria and other places.