North Korea Performs Nuclear Test

**oliver1013** · October 17th, 2006 09:10 AM

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**mazdamazda** · October 17th, 2006 09:12 AM

here's a good opinion from Max Soliven (taken from philstar.com):

Everybody’s talking about North Korea’s nukes, and the sanctions slapped on Pyongyang by the United Nations Security Council (although China and Russia, while signing the UN Resolution will veto any military action), and the tough six-months’ sanctions imposed unilaterally by an angry Japan, etc. Russia’s Foreign Minister has just emerged from the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) which is what Dear Leader Kim Jong-il’s empire preens itself to inform Seoul that the North Koreans are ready to go back to six-country negotiations.

This is good news for jittery Seoul, but surely they cross their fingers about what happens next. The North Korean "emperor" who also styles himself "Marshal Kim Jong-il" may be nutty as a fruitcake, but he’s got the army and the armaments he needs to turn the ROK (South Korea) into an infierno.

Seventy percent of his formidable military force is positioned just 90 miles from Seoul. He’s got tunnels into the South, ready for his hardware to get rolling towards Seoul which lies just 35 miles south of the DMZ at Panmunjon. Thousands of Sa-5 (range 250 km), FROG-5/7 free rockets (range 50 to 70 km), perhaps 600 Scud missiles capable of hitting any place in South Korea await his command to fire. His 2,000 tanks are geared up. Bluff? Perhaps he’s only kulang sa pansin but when a guy’s a probable megalomaniac, think twice before calling his bluff. War may be a bit like poker, but it doesn’t take any smarts to play it and the results could be terminal.

One of the best insights into Kim’s character is provided by foreign correspondent Jasper Becker whom I’ve quoted before. In his brilliant book, "ROGUE REGIME: Kim Jong Il, And the Looming Threat of North Korea", published by the Oxford University Press in 2005, long before the current crisis, he provided a peephole into Leader Kim’s kirky tastes and culinary excesses.

For instance, his personal train which had 21 carriages, was armored and pulled by two locomotives that swept the track for mines, had coaches for his drinks, cellar, cooks and mistresses, etc. (He even launched in the early 1980s a "project to guarantee the longevity of the Great Leader – his late father Kim Il-sung – and the Dear Leader (himself)." This entailed the Workers’ Party recruiting and training around 2,000 girls for "pleasure groups." Giving all for Dear Leader, Party, and Motherland, is apparently the women’s lot.

Kim took his Japanese-made train almost everywhere even to Moscow (not as I erroneously said in an earlier column to Berlin). According to Becker, as his train traversed Siberia, he had plenty of time to come up with new whims. His retinue of servants and cooks were skilled enough to provide him with Russian, Chinese, Korean, Japanese and French cuisine at any time.

A sushi chef who first worked for Kim in 1982, the author related, and wrote his own book in 2003 ("Kim Jong Il’s Cook – I Saw His Naked Body") described the extensive efforts which went into pampering Mr. Kim’s tummy. Of course I don’t see how Kim’s naked body" fit into the menu, but the book revealed how the chef, who used the pseudonym "Kenji Fujimoto" was sent to Iran and Uzbekistan to buy caviar, to China to get melons and grapes, to Thailand and Malaysia for durian and papaya, the Czech Republic for Pilsner beer, and Denmark for bacon. There were regular forays to Japan to procure tuna, sea urchin and other fresh fish for sushi, which he loved. Kim ate "eel sushi" (Onagi?) three times a week, and "Toro" sushi by the pound. Fujimoto said he was also fond of Japanese noodles, matsutake mushrooms, and other Japanese stuff. And to think that the Dear Leader gorged himself at the table, while millions of North Koreans, his people, starved.

No wonder an irate Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe included "luxury goods" in the sanctions his government just imposed. But beware. After a week of being deprived of his imported Japanese goodies, Marshal Kim might run amuck. Remember, his Taepo Dong missiles, I and Il, can easily reach Tokyo.

**mazdamazda** · October 17th, 2006 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by city

What makes north korea any different? the largest country with nuclear capability and was a communist is russia. China is a communist and have nuclear capabilities. Both are against some of the US policies. Nothing happened. I believe the world is tired of wars. The way I see it, it's only the americans who's creating wars. Look closely who's into wars up to this age?

Do we really think north korea, a small country surrounded by nuclear powers (Russia, China, Japan, South Korea), is a threat?

> Japan & South Korea doesn't have nuke weapons.

> The other nuclear capable countries like China & Russia are at least headed by level-headed people (regardless if they are communists or not) unlike the megalomaniac Dear Leader of North Korea (check out his 2,000 girls as his "pleasure group").

> North Korea is a threat simply because of its history and its current leader. Didn't they a few decades ago try to overrun South Korea? Their leaders also have a long standing grudge also against Japan over the Korean occupation during WWII.

> North Korea deals with other rogue nations such as Iran & Syria. Even the detonation of a crude or "dirty" nuke bomb in a US ally city (such as Manila) should be reason enough to fear the proliferation of nuclear weapons technology.

> Even though China & Russia are against some US policies - at least they sit down at the discussion table and negotiate. Russia & the USA for example are still undergoing a nuclear weapon arsenal downgrade (from a combined high of 50,000 nuke devices during the cold war to just about 20,000 today).

> As to wars... Russia has Chechnya... China has Taiwan (and even Tibet)... etc. The current US first-strike wars in Afghanistan & Iraq might be what most of us remember but we should still remember when the US & its allies were the ones waiting for the enemy to attack first (Gulf War, South Korean invasion, Yom Kippur, etc.).

**scarab** · October 17th, 2006 09:33 AM

...i've watched a british documentary before about Nokor. though maraming nagdedefect sa south, marami rin ang halos parang sumasamba sa leader nila at ibang klase ang galet nila sa US. parang ang sole purpose lang nila sa buhay ay tanggalin ang US sa mapa.

**city** · October 17th, 2006 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by mazdamazda

> Japan & South Korea doesn't have nuke weapons.

> The other nuclear capable countries like China & Russia are at least headed by level-headed people (regardless if they are communists or not) unlike the megalomaniac Dear Leader of North Korea (check out his 2,000 girls as his "pleasure group").

> North Korea is a threat simply because of its history and its current leader. Didn't they a few decades ago try to overrun South Korea? Their leaders also have a long standing grudge also against Japan over the Korean occupation during WWII.

> North Korea deals with other rogue nations such as Iran & Syria. Even the detonation of a crude or "dirty" nuke bomb in a US ally city (such as Manila) should be reason enough to fear the proliferation of nuclear weapons technology.

> Even though China & Russia are against some US policies - at least they sit down at the discussion table and negotiate. Russia & the USA for example are still undergoing a nuclear weapon arsenal downgrade (from a combined high of 50,000 nuke devices during the cold war to just about 20,000 today).

> As to wars... Russia has Chechnya... China has Taiwan (and even Tibet)... etc. The current US first-strike wars in Afghanistan & Iraq might be what most of us remember but we should still remember when the US & its allies were the ones waiting for the enemy to attack first (Gulf War, South Korean invasion, Yom Kippur, etc.).

is north korea, (and other nations branded as rogue nations by the US) thinking the same thing? US being the threat?

And who knows which other leaders are megalomaniac? Is Kim the only one?

Kim would probably think thrice about stiking first. I will if I were him.

Let the north koreans sort things out for them. Most nations did just that. Found out what works for them. They will probably realize that "No man is an Island". They probably just dont want the US dictating what's good for them.

**BlueBimmer** · October 17th, 2006 10:05 AM

maybe they'll finally give up after all the trade sanctions

**mikaztro** · October 17th, 2006 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by city

What makes north korea any different? the largest country with nuclear capability and was a communist is russia. China is a communist and have nuclear capabilities. Both are against some of the US policies. Nothing happened. I believe the world is tired of wars. The way I see it, it's only the americans who's creating wars. Look closely who's into wars up to this age?

Do we really think north korea, a small country surrounded by nuclear powers (Russia, China, Japan, South Korea), is a threat?

I agree with your opinion that it seems the US is the only country making war and war materials. WAR is a billion dollar industry that kicks off the American's economy just like it did in WWI and WWII albeit it did not in Vietnam war. However, I dont see Nokor's leader stable enough to handle delicate situations like this especially with nuke weapon on hand. He is a communist hardliner and a firm believer of socialism. He still thinks he can duplicate what his father did during the Korean war. As much as I would want the US to stop producing war materials and wanton accusation of other countries of producing WMD's, I still believe that Nokor should be policed thru UN and it's allies. War has no place in this world and eventhough the cold war evanesced, war crimes and world war still and will continue to exist. It's up to permanent UN members to decide what is the approriate action as they know what's best for their own region. Having Nuke is deadly and dangerous. Having the capability to deliver such(long range) is perilous to the whole world.

**creepy** · October 17th, 2006 12:12 PM

I think NO ONE should have nuclear weapons (that includes NoKor, China, U.S., Russia, Britain, France, Iran, Pakistan, India, South Africa or the Philippines!!). Without the nuclear powers setting an example, how credible can they be when they tell other countries that they shouldn't have nuclear weapons?!?!

And there is always a danger of right-wing (war freak) nuts taking over a country like the U.S. as well. Especially when SOME (but not all) people in the U.S. vote for ignoramuses and nuts like them.