Need your inputs on the things needed to build a house.

[earthlyken]

Hi Everyone,

We just bought a house (Bingalow type 45 square meter) and lot (83 square meter) in Cavite area, the house has water and electricity already but the problem is that the house is very old and we're planning to have it demolish and start from scratch and maximize as much as posible the entire lot area, our plan is to built 3 floor house,2 bathrooms on 1st and 2nd floor, 1 bedroom on 1st floor and 3 bedrooms in 2nd floor and terrace on the entire 3rd floor with fence and roof, now base on my 1 week of duling duling research, i was able to come up with these material and figures.

Hollow Blocks - 5000pcs - 6" thick - 12/pcs = P60,000
Cement - 800 Bags - 220/pcs = P184,000
Gravel - 4 dumptruck - P1,000/per dump truck = P4,000
Iron rebars - P300,000
Manpower - 5 x 500 per day x 90 days = P225,000
Floor Tiles,, bathroom tiles, Doors, Stairs, lightings, Electrical Wirings, Water Pipings, Windows, Paints, Grills, Screen, Roof sheets, Faucet, Sink, Toilet Bowl and Etc. = P400,000

Total: P1,173,000

I don't want to go directly to a construction firm, because they might charge me more and use less quality materials, thats why i need your guys opinion if i miss something on the list or if the figure is not accurate, so we can adjust our budget.

We are on a tight budget, thats why we need your expertise about this stuff...any inputs will be greatly appreciated..

TIA

[pop3corn]

i times 2 mo yun budget para sigurado, and also prepare for 180 days too

[ghosthunter]

No mention of wood.

[Noel Salisipan]

i times 2 mo yun budget para sigurado, and also prepare for 180 days too

Agree with this, pero pwede mo namang dagdagan yung manpower para mabalanse yung working days na target mo.
Lalo ngayon simula na tag-ulan, mas mahihirapan kayo nyan pag inabutan kayo ng kasagsagan ng ulan.

[earthlyken]

* pop3corn ; * Noel - Times 2? meaning i need to double the numbers of material? isn't that too much for a 80 square meter house?

*ghosthunter - yeah i forgot to include the woods..

[Monseratto]

Be sure to get the necessary permits from the barangay and city.

[jick.cejoco]

chb construction in the country is costly in terms of labor and strength/durability per square foot. the concrete hollow blocks are weak, break easy and hardly standard in size. you might consider reinforced poured in place foundation and steel load bearing components from H beam columns, I beam framing and galvanized floor ribspans covered in tiles. the walls may be made of cement board (hardiflex) with styrofoam heat and sound insulation. include the piping for plumbing, electrical, communication, vacuum cleaning, brown water, black water, security camera pipings before pouring the floor slab and covering the walls. have the pipes installed even if you don't have the budget for communication, security, and vacuum cleaning system. the land are is not that big, so, place the septic tank in the front (parking), the rain water harvesting cistern, municipal water tanks below grade ( we know we have water supply problems-and it's going to get worse), the tanks for black water, gray water, fresh water made of plastic housed in concrete subterranean concrete box for easy maintenance and access. plan for the upgrades ahead of time, the ones that will be covered in concrete and ones that require earth moving. good luck on the construction

[Noel Salisipan]

* pop3corn ; * Noel - Times 2? meaning i need to double the numbers of material? isn't that too much for a 80 square meter..

Not this time bro, pag tantya mo na kakapusin ka na sa materials ay saka ka estimate uli.

Pero yung bugdet mo na 1M+ kulang talaga yan sa 3storey house hanggang sa finishing, tiyak sa initial estimate mo may kukulangin at kukulangin na materyales.

[Noel Salisipan]

Hi Everyone,


Hollow Blocks - 5000pcs - 6" thick - 12/pcs = P60,000

Floor Tiles,, bathroom tiles, Doors, Stairs, lightings, Electrical Wirings, Water Pipings, Windows, Paints, Grills, Screen, Roof sheets, Faucet, Sink, Toilet Bowl and Etc. = P400,000

TIA

About 6" HB, pwede mong gawing 4" sa 2nd at 3rd floor, para makatipid ka sa cost at sa simento, mabawasan din load mo sa gawing taas.
(mahal yata yung simento sa area mo, dito sa Pangasinan 195 lang.)

Yung budget mo na 400k sa auxilliary, aminado kulang yan.

Then, on the process mararamdaman mo na yung mga kulang.

Plus, meron pang inflation rate na tinatawag.

Good luck at success bro...

[earthlyken]

*jick.cajeco - that was too much information for me sir but thank you..i'll make sure they know dat.

* noel - thanks for the additional info sir, appreciate it a lot..i think we would use linilium muna sa flooring ng mga floors for d meantime hangang maka ipon ulit..m main concern lang talaga is to have d house built muna using quality materials..ung finishing medyo mga 50 to 60% muna..as much as possile ayoko umutang sa bank or pagibig..kasi baka mahirapan ako sa bayarin..

Pero aside from the auxilliary po, ok napo yung mga iba? Or depende padin po? Kasi sabi ng friend ko yung 83 aquare meter lot ay baka mga 70 to 75 square meter lang magagamit ko..kasi panget at hinde raw pwede yung sagaran..

TIA.

[RakataK]

5 manpower in 90 days? hindi nila kakayanin yan pre make it 10-15. Hindi pa pala included yung finishing and paint mo.

May mga may-ari yata ng hardware dito sa tsikot di ako sure kung si Boybi yung isa dun baka matulungan ka nila

[Noel Salisipan]

Pero aside from the auxilliary po, ok napo yung mga iba? Or depende padin po? Kasi sabi ng friend ko yung 83 aquare meter lot ay baka mga 70 to 75 square meter lang magagamit ko..kasi panget at hinde raw pwede yung sagaran..

TIA.

Kukulangin pa rin yun except kung titipirin mo talaga, w/c is not good later on.

Or, pwede naman na 2floors muna pa finish mo yung satisfied ka na, either semi or fully furnish. Then kung ok pa budget di sige lang, at least secured na yung 2storey mo. Then waiting na lang yung last floor.

[pop3corn]

magastos tlaga yan. saka mas matinde permit ng 3 floors sa munisipyo di'ba? sabagay baka di gano mahigpit dyan sa probinsya

yan ang hinding-hindi ko gagawin, yun ako magpapagawa ng bahay ko. napakasakit sa ulo siguro nyan. mas ok pa bumili ng ready-made dami naman dyan ah yun mga may themes pa like european etc.

[Noel Salisipan]

Pero aside from the auxilliary po, ok napo yung mga iba? Or depende padin po? Kasi sabi ng friend ko yung 83 aquare meter lot ay baka mga 70 to 75 square meter lang magagamit ko..kasi panget at hinde raw pwede yung sagaran..

TIA.

Wala pa rin pala yung mga coco lumber mo para sa porma ng mga buhos, beam, post, slab. Kailangan din ng plywood dun.

Sagaran? Sa side na gusto mo na may bintana e hindi talaga pwede. Pero dun sa alam mo na kailangan ng firewall at risky na kapitbahay, dun ka mag-sagad.

[chrismarte]

5 manpower in 90 days? hindi nila kakayanin yan pre make it 10-15.

8 pede na tska na sya magdagdag pag time na magbubuhos...pag time ng buhos arkila ka na lang ng mixer kasama operator para makatipid ka sa laborer.

Tip: pag kukuha ka ng tao wag yung puro patama sa trabaho.... halimbawa bubong ang pipinturahan pero gamit eh 1/2" na brush...

[renzo_d10]

magastos tlaga yan. saka mas matinde permit ng 3 floors sa munisipyo di'ba? sabagay baka di gano mahigpit dyan sa probinsya

yan ang hinding-hindi ko gagawin, yun ako magpapagawa ng bahay ko. napakasakit sa ulo siguro nyan. mas ok pa bumili ng ready-made dami naman dyan ah yun mga may themes pa like european etc.

I agree with this, though it seems fun to build your own home from scratch sobrang mahal at masakit siya sa ulo. Marami naman RFO na diyan na brand new, although medyo mahirap talaga pag sa probinsya.

Yung 5 manpower in 90 days I honestly doubt if kakayanin. Make it 10 then yung days mga 100-150. Hinde mo alam kung magkakaproblema in the process & what not. Never nagkaron ng construction na smooth sailing, lahat may haharapin na hassle.

To be safe, have at least 200k+ na pwede mo gastusin anytime. Mahirap gumawa ng bahay ng on a tight budget, baka madisappoint ka lang sa outcome if you continue it at magipit ka sa huli resorting to ugly products.

Meron developers na gumagawa ng bahay to the point na para makapagtayo at makabenta lang. Livable for ilang years pero magdeteriorate na rin after. And para sa sariling bahay, ayaw mo ganun. Gusto mo pangmatagalan. So paano, magandang components. At ang magandang components hindi nakukuha or nabibili ng mura.

[chua_riwap]

mga contractor ibinabase sa per sq.m na presyo.
parang P25K/sq.m X FA.

tapos 3 storey *70-75 sq.m/floor?
medyo malaki budget nyan.

[Gumusut_Amige]

3 floors yan kaya halos 240sqm ang total area.
palagay natin na 15k/sqm (medyo mababa na 'to) kulang ang budget mo bro.
suggest ko na tapusin mo muna ang ground floor hanggang finishing saka mo na isipin yung taas kung may budget ulit.
idagdag mo rin yung cost ng demolition ng existing structure.

sana applicable pa ang mga presyo dito... http://tsikot.com/forums/miscellaneo...29/index4.html
good luck bro

[fourtheboys96]

I assume you are an engineer or have engineering knowledge or some serious experience building houses to be confident in doing this.

[earthlyken]

I assume you are an engineer or have engineering knowledge or some serious experience building houses to be confident in doing this.

Thank you so much for all inputs, my brother is an architect student and my uncle is a foreman/trabahador, sabi ok naraw yun list, ung sa auxilliary raw ang kulang pero mga 1.2m to 1.3m raw ay matatapos raw nila using quality material raw..pero yung finishing ang hinde matatapos completely mga 60% lang siguru matatapos..pero the house structure raw ay quality material talaga..

The reason but ayaw namin yung RFO ay hinde nila nasusulit yung lot area and yung division sa loob n g house ay h inde namin gusto..

Sakit talaga sa ulo kakaisip ng mga ganitong bagay..

Base sa list po..ano papo kulang or sobra sa list na pwede bawasan at idagdag sa iba?

Thank you sa m ga nag babasa at nag rereply po..more power to you all