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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    asking for a friend, im asking in many forums actually..

    my friend is separated from her husband for 6 years already, but with no legal documents, separation/anullment has not been filed. they've just decided to call it quits on their own. now she plans to migrate to canada, (or USA, australia) just anywhere to start a new life. she's wondering if she should apply as single or as married, considering she has no documents regarding the latter..

    anybody have any ideas? or possibly have gone through this situation?

  2. Join Date
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    no expert but i think she is still married

  3. Join Date
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    #3
    No documents? Please explain. If they're married, they should have documents at the NSO.

    If somebody finds out the truth, this will be fraud. They should have it officially annulled first.

  4. Join Date
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    yes she is still married pending court order dissolving the marriage.

  5. Join Date
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    yes she is still legally married, and she has no intention to hide that. she just doesnt have the documents proving they have separated already. if she applies as married, im sure her husband will not cooperate, maybe even hinder her application.

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    Ah, so they don't have any documents indicating their separation. In that case, they're still married by law.

    She will have a harder time convincing the judge that she is already single when it states that she is still married, than convincing her husband to sign the annulment papers.

  7. Join Date
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    mbeige > may judge pang involved when applying for visa sa canada?? going through the very long and expensive process of anullment is not an option for her. she doesnt have the money for this..

    my friend is hoping that canada (and other countries) would be liberal when they consider applications. if she says she's single, then maybe they won't require her to prove it.. unlike if you're married, you need to show marriage certificate, etc..

    anybody know where she can go to get legal advice on this? maybe immigration experts?

  8. Join Date
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    Sorry I meant yung consul officer or whoever is going to approve her application.

  9. Join Date
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    Lie to a consult, never a good idea hehe.

  10. Join Date
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    dapat may batas na kung may ilang taon na kayong nde nagsasama ng asawa mo eh dapat considered na divorced or wala nang bisa yung kasal nyo ..wala pa bang law na ganyan.. gaya nyan ang hirap diba?

  11. Join Date
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    i think wala yata e..

    wala din sa hulog mga law makers natin.. they will not allow divorce (a process that acknowledges the marriage and its end), but will allow anullment (basically saying the marriage never took place in the first place)

  12. Join Date
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    #12
    bakit wala sia dokumento ng Kasal nila,
    mukhang mag kakaproblema nga sia ,malamang mahirapan sia or matagalan

    neighbor namin nag apply ng single pa noon bigla nabuntis ,nagpakasal ..naiba na naman status back to zero uli sia sa pag apply kasi explain naman bakit naiba pangalan ,hanap ng mga dokumento na naman kaya tumagal ..
    up to now di pa yata nakakaalis

  13. Join Date
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    #13
    boeing, opposite ang situation ng friend ko. she is legally married, but was wondering if she could apply as single, since separated na nga sila, wala lang documents on their separation.

    for applicants who apply as single, hinahanapan ba ng proof that they are indeed single??

  14. Join Date
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    yes boss SS,alam ko opposite situation sila ,kaya lang iyon nabago kasi ang status niya ,kaya na delay na naman sia,sorry parang OT ako don

    for applicants who apply as single, hinahanapan ba ng proof that they are indeed single??
    sir,baka meron taga canadian embassy na nag iimbestiga sa NSO ,kung ano ang tunay na status ng mga applicant nila

  15. Join Date
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    i think you would agree that applying as a single to migrate anywhere, wherein fact one is married is lying, isnt it? so what do you think any consul or embassy would do if they found out she is lying?

    best option is to come clean, ask for legal advice on the matter. who knows, it may not be hard as she thinks.

  16. Join Date
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    tama ang mga bro never lie to a consul... saka kailangan ma pa ayos muna nya marriage nya na legally separated sya kasi baka mag check ang canadian embassy at makita na married sya tapos nilagay nya single mag kaka problema papers nya. basta just be honest...baka yun pa ang makatulong sa application nya.

  17. Join Date
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    Mahigpit na ngayon after 9/11 when it comes to visa applications to other countries. If the consul reviewing your application finds any discrepancies - the application can then be considered as "fraud".

    To really start over in a clean slate (para masabi nya single sya or divorced) - Ayusin muna nya annullment case nya - para may supporting papers sya na divorced or annulled sya sa visa applications nya.

    Good luck!

  18. Join Date
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    #18
    Medyo magulo yan, kung lahat ngpapers niya like passport ang pangalan niya as married kailangan niyang magapply for visa as married, kasi malaking question iyon pakit hindi niya delare as married siya. pero kung ang mga papers niya ang nakalagay na pangalan niya ay noong single pa siya , baka makalusot pa na as single siya pero call na niya iyon,

  19. Join Date
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    for applicants who apply as single, hinahanapan ba ng proof that they are indeed single??

    they require Certificate of singleness NSO ang nag issue and must be aunthenticated.
    If landed immigrants apply niya sa Australia or Canada i think wla nman problema if married sya and not legally seperated sa personal appearance ( interview ) nman just tell the truth na marriage sya but iyong husband niya iniwan sya at sumama sa ibang babae .. possible pa maawa sa knya consul ..
    Priority nman nila iyong qualifications mo second n lang iyong family status ..
    marami ako fren ganyan case wla nging problema .. isa na ako mas mhigpit p nga sila sa mga certificate of employment tlga verify nila records mo sa mga company kung mag match doun sa submitt mo na mga documents.

  20. Join Date
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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by OILSLICK View Post
    for applicants who apply as single, hinahanapan ba ng proof that they are indeed single??

    they require Certificate of singleness NSO ang nag issue and must be aunthenticated.
    If landed immigrants apply niya sa Australia or Canada i think wla nman problema if married sya and not legally seperated sa personal appearance ( interview ) nman just tell the truth na marriage sya but iyong husband niya iniwan sya at sumama sa ibang babae .. possible pa maawa sa knya consul ..
    Priority nman nila iyong qualifications mo second n lang iyong family status ..
    marami ako fren ganyan case wla nging problema .. isa na ako mas mhigpit p nga sila sa mga certificate of employment tlga verify nila records mo sa mga company kung mag match doun sa submitt mo na mga documents.
    from one slick to another :D , thank you for this info. im sure this will make my friend's day, and shine a little light at the end of her very long tunnel (err.. no pun intended.. hehe)

    what is landed immigrants? are there many types of immigrants?

    more comments, opinions, bad, good, for or against will be much appreciated. a

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