Metrowide plastic ban in place by 2013 - MMDA

[BratPAQ]

Pede pa rin plastic sa QC though may bayad nga lang (2 petot daw), yung mga wet products like meat, fish and poultry eh plastic pa rin pero yung walang hawakan, you still need those eco bags and bayong.

Yung ibang grocery eh kung marami kang binili, kahon ang gagamitin nila.

Mahirap lang minsan kung bibili ka tulad ng 10 softdrinks in can na malamig sa 7-11, then sa papel ilalagay, paglabas mo pa lang butas kagad yung papel. So it would help if you have one of those eco bags na foldable as big as a wallet at lagi mo dala.

[nic]

Tanung ko lang, sa STRAW BAN, pano yung mga Milk Tea or Zagu?
Kung walang straw, di uubusin mo muna drink bago mo makain pearls.
Baka naman mamaya palitan nila ng plastic spoon since hindi naman banned.

[Ry_Tower]

Tanung ko lang, sa STRAW BAN, pano yung mga Milk Tea or Zagu?
Kung walang straw, di uubusin mo muna drink bago mo makain pearls.
Baka naman mamaya palitan nila ng plastic spoon since hindi naman banned.

Tapos ma-ban din plastic spoon. :hysterical:

[renzo_d10]

Tanung ko lang, sa STRAW BAN, pano yung mga Milk Tea or Zagu?
Kung walang straw, di uubusin mo muna drink bago mo makain pearls.
Baka naman mamaya palitan nila ng plastic spoon since hindi naman banned.

I'm fine with banning plastic spoon & forks -- if ever they plan to. I'm used to using the metal spoons on fastfood/restaurants anyway.

Nakaka-tamad kasi himayin ng manok kapag gamit mo plastic spoon & fork, parang ang dali masira. For kids, just bring their own set of utensils.

Ang ayoko lang yung straw ban. Kung pati sa milk tea shops gagawin yan, magdadala nalang ako ng sarili kong straw.

Nung nag-grocery nga pala ako kahapon dito sa QC, namigay ng libreng green bag ang SaveMore. So apat na yung ganun ko.

Dati binebenta nila yun for 10 pesos each, eh.

[pop3corn]

Tanung ko lang, sa STRAW BAN, pano yung mga Milk Tea or Zagu?
Kung walang straw, di uubusin mo muna drink bago mo makain pearls.
Baka naman mamaya palitan nila ng plastic spoon since hindi naman banned.

dapat talaga I-ban yan plastic straw sa milk tea, nasubukan nyo na ba sobrang sipsip taps lumabas sa ilong yun sago, nakaka kita ako ng friend ko ng Ganun, sib ko sa inyo dun ako nakakakita na nag roll eyes mata nya

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[kinyo]

kapag naging papel yung lahat ng plastic na nasa basura ... hindi na ba magbabara ang drainage?

agree ako sa "displina ang problema"

paper or plastic, proper disposal is the key to having a free-flowing drainage

[crazy_boy]

kapag naging papel yung lahat ng plastic na nasa basura ... hindi na ba magbabara ang drainage?

agree ako sa "displina ang problema"

paper or plastic, proper disposal is the key to having a free-flowing drainage

Mas tagal kasi yata mag decompose yung plastic compared to paper. But i might be wrong.

Ang pagkakaalam ko, may mga tree farms na mabilis magpatubo ng trees na gagamitin for paper bags, etc.

[ghosthunter]

kapag naging papel yung lahat ng plastic na nasa basura ... hindi na ba magbabara ang drainage?

agree ako sa "displina ang problema"

paper or plastic, proper disposal is the key to having a free-flowing drainage

If your trash is plastic or paper, it will still block the drains. It will still fill the landfills. The solution is garbage reduction.

Giving an incentive for people to either re-use or recycle their old or used stuff is better than banning something outright. Plastic bags is not the problem. The problem is the people using them.

Frankly using paper bags has its own issues.
- making paper creates 7 to 10 times more pollution in our waters than making the same number of plastic bags.
- paper bags are heavier and takes more space than the same number of plastic bags. This requires more fuel/energy to transport them around the city to the end users.
- paper bags are more often NOT re-used because they tend to get ripped or damaged on first use.
- paper bags are not certified food grade. There is not certified paper bags for food.
- plastic bags can be recycled or re-used many times over.

[pop3corn]

Basta Eto Lang yare ang GDP ng Pilipinas pag nagging full-scale na yan. IMHO, don't give a reason for people not to buy in bulk, yari yan mga groceries, fastfoods. Kanina Lang sa bonchon, nagalit yun mama, take out sya sana ng combo wings and thigh for his family siguro. Sabi ng bonchon, babayaran daw plastic bag, nainis yun mama umalis, eh mga 1K sana yun bill Nya. Eh sa KFc, may paper bag sila.

Kagaguhan yan ginawa ni HB, yari ang collection Nya ngaun sa next elections, kse Madame hihina na business sa QC

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[ghosthunter]

Basta Eto Lang yare ang GDP ng Pilipinas pag nagging full-scale na yan. IMHO, don't give a reason for people not to buy in bulk, yari yan mga groceries, fastfoods. Kanina Lang sa bonchon, nagalit yun mama, take out sya sana ng combo wings and thigh for his family siguro. Sabi ng bonchon, babayaran daw plastic bag, nainis yun mama umalis, eh mga 1K sana yun bill Nya. Eh sa KFc, may paper bag sila.

Kagaguhan yan ginawa ni HB, yari ang collection Nya ngaun sa next elections, kse Madame hihina na business sa QC

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Actually Mayor Bautista did the right move on the plastics ban by not banning plastic bags outright. He gave the consumers the choice to use plastic or paper bags. The only issue with many consumers during the first weekend of the implementation was the lack of information to the proper people to help guide them through the new regulations.

[rangeles]

Reduce, reuse and recycle! Be it plastics or paper.

[macstar1]

Ganun naman Sa abroad eh magbayad ka Kung gagamit ka ng plastic bag Sa grocery


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Cosco, yes ... Doon ginaya ang SNR na walang bag for groceries, pero walmart and safeway, plastic bag pa rin

[ghosthunter]

VS


Shopping Bags: paper vs plastic

Just to be honest, I hate paper shopping bags. Often times, they have no proper handles to hold on to so you end up having to use one or both hands to carry the bag. And even the ones with paper handles, they tend to rip or come off after a few minutes of walking around with it. And the chances of it ripping open is probably greater than 1 in 10. Very inconvenient and ends up being used once or at most twice before being thrown in the garbage.

Plastic bags is a godsend. It enables me to carry more than one piece of shopping around with me the whole day without any issue of ripping open or being awkward to handle. I almost always re-use my plastic bags until they are ripped or full of holes. It is a modern convenience that is cheap and simple to use.

So paper versus plastic. Kinda ironic that in trying to be green and environmental with pushing for paper shopping bags, it ends up cutting down more and more trees faster and faster to feed the increasing demand for paper.

So what is your say on this issue?

[shadow]

doesnt matter, kung ano binigay nila

[timrev]

dito sa pinas di talaga ok yan plastic bag knowing our kababayan sa pagtatapon ng basura wala ng disiplina...kaya pabor ako sa paper bag..

[foresterx]

i actually prefer paper over plastic but that was when i was in the states, their plastic are thick and have it's own handle. unlike the ones they give out here in the philippines imagine at 7/11 2 cans of cold coke na punit na agad yung paper bag na binigay sa akin yung sa states kahit 1 case ng beer ang nilalagay ko di na pupunit. i seriously wish they could provide better paper bags so i could avoid plastic bags.

[roninblade]

Shopping Bags: paper vs plastic

Just to be honest, I hate paper shopping bags. Often times, they have no proper handles to hold on to so you end up having to use one or both hands to carry the bag. And even the ones with paper handles, they tend to rip or come off after a few minutes of walking around with it. And the chances of it ripping open is probably greater than 1 in 10. Very inconvenient and ends up being used once or at most twice before being thrown in the garbage.

Plastic bags is a godsend. It enables me to carry more than one piece of shopping around with me the whole day without any issue of ripping open or being awkward to handle. I almost always re-use my plastic bags until they are ripped or full of holes. It is a modern convenience that is cheap and simple to use.

So paper versus plastic. Kinda ironic that in trying to be green and environmental with pushing for paper shopping bags, it ends up cutting down more and more trees faster and faster to feed the increasing demand for paper.

So what is your say on this issue?

the chopping down more trees is a tired, old argument and not really valid anymore. the shopping bag paper comes from recycled paper or tree factories. whereas plastic bags will always be bad for the environment. even plastic bags that are supposed to be biodegradable takes a very long time to break down.

dito sa pinas di talaga ok yan plastic bag knowing our kababayan sa pagtatapon ng basura wala ng disiplina...kaya pabor ako sa paper bag..

^ this alone is all the reason you need to use paper bags.

for people hating the paper bags, why not just get the reusable grocery bags, that's less wasteful and even more environment friendly.

[ghosthunter]

the chopping down more trees is a tired, old argument and not really valid anymore. the shopping bag paper comes from recycled paper or tree factories. whereas plastic bags will always be bad for the environment. even plastic bags that are supposed to be biodegradable takes a very long time to break down.

Recycled paper pulp has shorter fibers which results in inferior quality paper. Also recycled pulp requires more bleaching.

And ironic thing, we now IMPORT the paper to make paper shopping bags.

for people hating the paper bags, why not just get the reusable grocery bags, that's less wasteful and even more environment friendly.

I can hardly imagine trying to shop a week or two worth of grocery using paper bags their use in some of the local supermarkets Then having to commute home. Paper bags is a great thing,... if you have a car to drive home with your shopping.

[potpot2]

Yes how can people who have to commute home specially on jeepneys bring home their groceries using paper bags? I dont think it is possible at this point


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[Altis6453]

Two things that could've been better:

1. Putting string handles on the paper bags to make it easier to carry.

2. Giving tax incentives to store owners who use paper bags instead of having them charge 2 Pesos to customers for plastic bags.