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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by ts1n1ta
    Baligtad tayo. With my faith everything is easier.

    Not all prayers are answered. Think of it this way. Yung pinagdadasal ba naten eh makakabuti sa ten? For all you know God already answered your prayer by not giving you what you wanted.
    ain't life so great...diverse views....

    have anyone requested something in prayer that will be bad for himself? You can actually think of many bad things about something you asked that wasn't given to you. I mean to justify a prayer that hasn't been answered people have all the excuses...oh well that's faith...it defies logic and rationality.

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    naalala ko lng ito sa isang wall dati (poster)

    i just hope i remember it correctly, correct me if im wrong

    ADD lots of fun to your life
    SUBTRACT worries, tensions, etc...
    MULTIPLY your love to others
    DIVIDE your blessings to others..

    something like that...


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    #43
    Quote Originally Posted by boydapa
    naalala ko lng ito sa isang wall dati (poster)

    i just hope i remember it correctly, correct me if im wrong

    ADD lots of fun to your life
    SUBTRACT worries, tensions, etc...
    MULTIPLY your love to others
    DIVIDE your blessings to others..

    something like that...

    i like that...add to that laughter.

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    #44
    no that's not justification and they're not a mere excuse. It is simply giving in to God. And to answer your question: yes, i think men, being only human, might think that we know what's best for us. Sign of pride if you ask me. We don't know everything. And there are some things in the world that men will never understand. No matter how hard we try. There are questions that will be left unanswered. Mysteries of life. Sometimes nde kelangan ng utak to understand things. You need your heart.

    Faith is simply believing what you don't understand.


  5. #45
    people pray for peace every single day...is this being answered?...will god give something better than peace?

    a cancer patient prayed..was it answered with better than having his/her life?

    people who died in the 9/11 attacks, children who died in hostage scenario in russia, people in afhanistan, iraq, palestine (women and children) prayed but all these people suffered and died? were they given better things than what they hoped for?

    a parent of a child who was kidnapped, raped and left dead. they prayed for their child's life but wasn't answered...what better things was given to them instead of having their prayers answered? in exchange for life?

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    #46
    pag hindi up and down ang buhay e di patay ka na nun! ayoko pa!

    saka pag smooth sailing ang buhay ibig sabihin nun hindi ka na napapansin ni Lord! kaya minsan up minsan down kasi sinusubukan ka kung ano gagawin mo, just to see if you will still have faith. buti nga tayo dito sa tsikot up-down lang, dami dyan lagi down.

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    #47
    Quote Originally Posted by raine_s
    God sucks minsan,isip ko lan, kase there are times no matter how hard you pray nothing happens at all... i read from a book that God is just an imaginary friend for older people just to make them feel safe to explain things they cant explain and to make them see na there is something to look forward to after death...when in scientific terms there is not


    whew, i really need my faith back.
    who would you rather believe a visionary being who is believed by millions if not billions of people around the planet and who has a surviving legacy of thousands of years na since the Old testament

    or

    nerdy scientists/truth-seekers who cant even get a hot girl in a bar?

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    #48
    i'd pick #1 :D

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by city
    people pray for peace every single day...is this being answered?...will god give something better than peace?

    a cancer patient prayed..was it answered with better than having his/her life?

    people who died in the 9/11 attacks, children who died in hostage scenario in russia, people in afhanistan, iraq, palestine (women and children) prayed but all these people suffered and died? were they given better things than what they hoped for?

    a parent of a child who was kidnapped, raped and left dead. they prayed for their child's life but wasn't answered...what better things was given to them instead of having their prayers answered? in exchange for life?
    city you're totally missing the point. Bumabalik ka sa puntos mo na dapat maganda nangyayari sa lahat ngtao. Like what ive said and what i really believe in, everything happens for a reason. Besides, all those you've mentioned doesn't necessarily mean that something bad came from it. Something good came from it no matter how small it was. A cancer patient who prayed, was he saved? physically no. Spiritually, yes. Cancer patients families became more stronger/ naging mas loving. The sickness brought them together. We have someone from the family who died from cancer the experience made us realize a lot. People praying for peace, may world peace ba? wala. pero imagine how many people there are praying. Just praying alone is grace itself. Nagiging holy pa yung mga tao because they're praying. Victims of rape/crime/terrorism/unjustly things/corruption, lahat yan may magandang nadulot nde lang naten makikita. In our grief siguro nde naten marerealize. Minsan our misfortune (sa paningin naten) is blessing for others. Nde naten masasabi. You're just looking at the surface of things. May mas malalim pang rason na posibleng nde naten makita. Dahil nga tao lang tayo. Nde tayo Dyos. Don't take it against God/supreme being lahat ng masasamang nangyayare sa mundo. Evil things are from the devil. God allows these things to happen. It doesn't mean na ang Dyos ang may gawa nun.


    Anyway, sorry for the OT.


    Lol *oldblue for the poll. Unless the geeky scientist looks like Johnny Depp theni'd go with numbah tu! hahaha joke joke joke :lol:
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    #50
    i pray for my players in FNBA to explode..but they dont..

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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by ts1n1ta
    Faith is simply believing what you don't understand.
    OT: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." (Hebrews 11:1)

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    #52
    i dont pray for something anymore(wait, except when my father undergone bypass, so "seldom" will be the right word instead of dont). i just thank God that I live the whole day. well it was my teacher who said it once to me. hope that i am not OT.
    btw, nice post tsinita. couldnt imagine a "vampire" who thinks wonderful about life.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by ts1n1ta
    city you're totally missing the point. Bumabalik ka sa puntos mo na dapat maganda nangyayari sa lahat ngtao. Like what ive said and what i really believe in, everything happens for a reason. Besides, all those you've mentioned doesn't necessarily mean that something bad came from it. Something good came from it no matter how small it was. A cancer patient who prayed, was he saved? physically no. Spiritually, yes. Cancer patients families became more stronger/ naging mas loving. The sickness brought them together. We have someone from the family who died from cancer the experience made us realize a lot. People praying for peace, may world peace ba? wala. pero imagine how many people there are praying. Just praying alone is grace itself. Nagiging holy pa yung mga tao because they're praying. Victims of rape/crime/terrorism/unjustly things/corruption, lahat yan may magandang nadulot nde lang naten makikita. In our grief siguro nde naten marerealize. Minsan our misfortune (sa paningin naten) is blessing for others. Nde naten masasabi. You're just looking at the surface of things. May mas malalim pang rason na posibleng nde naten makita. Dahil nga tao lang tayo. Nde tayo Dyos. Don't take it against God/supreme being lahat ng masasamang nangyayare sa mundo. Evil things are from the devil. God allows these things to happen. It doesn't mean na ang Dyos ang may gawa nun.


    Anyway, sorry for the OT.

    :
    ts1n1ta..sorry if i missed the point.....napag-usapan lang yang tungkol sa prayer kaya natin natumbok yan...anyway, just want share my views that i don't think the death of one or more person has a bigger cause we cannot see..we don't actually have to create a cause or reason to believe why some people die...that's where we get into trouble actually....creating the whys instead of accepting reality.

    for something good to came out..it doesn't have to be at the expense of another person's life....people or families can be more closer and stronger if they choose too....i just can't imagine someone who love life so much and even begged for it but eventually died and because god wants some good things to happen he rejects the prayer...doesn't sound rational to me.

    i agree that there are good things coming our of tragedy but the point is when people pray at the time of their death..isn't god listening to the person's desire and instead choose to reject their prayer because he want's families to be closer and stronger or whatever his purpose that may be?....hmmm


    have you read Isaiah 45:7? god made everything isn't it? including the devil....

    i don't wanna to get into more details about this topic....thanks for sharing your views ts1n1ta....

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    #54
    lol * niwde. oo paminsan lumalabas pa den yung pangil ayaw paawat. waehehe

    Quote Originally Posted by rj_tim
    OT: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." (Hebrews 11:1)
    ah yan. i wanted to look for that in the Bible. My mom told me that nakalimutan ko lang. Just defined faith with my own words. nyahehehe. thanks rj_tim.

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    #55
    God is great i believe...but sometimes he's giving me hard time seeing his greatness.

    i sometimes think that life is unfair
    but if God makes our life...then who's unfair?
    sometimes i feel that my faith is being challenged but i just hang on there.
    cuz i should.

    sometimes talaga kase naiisip lang natin yung kapangetan na nakikita natin sa when compared sa situation ng ibang tao. everytime i feel like this, iniisip ko na lang na meron din naman mga di magagandang bagay na nangyayari sa tao na yun na di ko nakikita dahil hindi ako sya. i just tell myself, he or she or anyone else isnt problem-free or perfect or even near perfect. siguro nature na ng tao na makita ang isang maliit black spot sa white cloth...instead of domination of the whiteness in it.


    FXT, its so great that your wife and mom survived cancer. i wish gumaling din tita ko.

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    #56
    ang prayer kasi sinasagot lang ni Lord pag hindi para sa iyo. selfishness after all is a sin di ba. so kung dasal ka na "sana Lord bigyan mo ko nito, nyan, nun, saka yung ganun..." e hindi talaga sa iyo ibibigay yun. pray ka para sa ibang tao, especially someone you do not know like the street kids, "Lord kawawa naman sila sana meron magbigay sa kanila ng food today ..." then syempre tamaan ka ng guilt kasi pray ka ng pray kay Lord tapos ikaw wala ka naman ginagawa so baba ka ng car mo bigyan mo bread yung bata, e di instant answer agad sa prayers mo di ba

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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo
    ang prayer kasi sinasagot lang ni Lord pag hindi para sa iyo. selfishness after all is a sin di ba. so kung dasal ka na "sana Lord bigyan mo ko nito, nyan, nun, saka yung ganun..." e hindi talaga sa iyo ibibigay yun. pray ka para sa ibang tao, especially someone you do not know like the street kids, "Lord kawawa naman sila sana meron magbigay sa kanila ng food today ..." then syempre tamaan ka ng guilt kasi pray ka ng pray kay Lord tapos ikaw wala ka naman ginagawa so baba ka ng car mo bigyan mo bread yung bata, e di instant answer agad sa prayers mo di ba
    naalala ko yung kwento tungkol sa isang dalaga, 35 yrs old na gusto na mag-asawa. pag nagdadasal siya ganito, "Lord, humihingi po ako ng tulong sa inyo para sa Nanay ko. Bigyan niyo na po siya ng manugang"......

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    #58
    hehehehehe! nice one jerkky!

    seriously now, the point i was trying to make is simply this. God gave all of us, His children, the greatest gift of all, the freedom to make choices. that includes the freedom to say no to Him. or say yes. prayer helps to strenghten our faith, but it is us who make those prayers come true. the choice is ours. if we pray for world peace, then it is we who has to carry the burden to make it come true. all, of course, in the fulfillment of His work. God makes miracles, yes, but only to remind us of His greatness, especially when we waiver in our faith. when we are one with Him then there is no need for miracles.

    so you ask "meron ba formula ang buhay?" meron. no matter how down or up you may be, just believe. when you believe then nothing is too hard, painful, sorrowful. it is only when you make the choice not to believe in Him when the things you do have no meaning or end.

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by bluebimmer
    i pray for my players in FNBA to explode..but they dont..
    There are some things in life that you can't control...

    Here's my point of view, when you want something in life you have to work for it no ifs and buts, God helps those who help themselves.

    If somethings not going well for you, you just have to suck it up. There's no use dwelling about things that you can't control.

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    #60
    teka, bakit naging faith and religion yung topic?

    Quote Originally Posted by EL Chicane
    Bakit kaya wala ng lumalabas na mga himala ngayon tulad noong mga nakasulat sa Bible?
    well, there was that image of Jesus Christ burned on a piece of toast that was on ebay some time ago :hihihi:

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