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    BIZLINKS By Rey Gamboa
    Friday, August 17, 2007 As America digs deeper into the controversy questioning the quality of products made in China, our local officials seem to be taking their sweet time investigating just how safe or durable imported consumer goods manufactured by the world’s fastest growing economy are – and in instituting appropriate action on those that fall below standards.
    For years, just like the US, the Philippines has been accepting at face value just about anything that comes from China. After all, most of these “Made in China” items are so cheap that people opt to forget and forgive “lapses” in quality.
    Remember those defective Christmas lights that were the object of a yearly warning by the Department of Trade and Industry? For less than P100, it seemed that people would choose to buy this seasonal decorative item despite the apparent risk of fire – or electric shock.
    Let’s not forget those electrical extension cords that come in so many neat shapes and colors. They are priced so low that many of our countrymen conveniently ignore the potential danger of sockets that melt with the prolonged flow of electricity.
    Busy with other things
    Our internal revenue and local government officials and personnel, sometimes in tandem with those from the immigration desk, may occasionally swoop down on the wholesale and retail centers of Divisoria, running after those Chinese who could barely speak and understand English and Filipino.
    Depending on what agency is being represented, the apprehensions could be related to tax evasion or illegal entry and overstaying; or they could just be plain harassment and bribery. But rarely would there be a representative from the DTI’s standards bureau to question the quality of goods sold.
    So the hapless consumer, who has heard how cheap goods sold in Divisoria could be, happily brings home a small fortune in purchased electrical gadgets, toys, footwear and bags, clothes, even foodstuff – all of them made in China.
    When the electronic gadget conks out after a few uses, it is thrown away. When the mechanical toy falls apart in just a couple of days, it is dumped in the garbage bin. When the strap of a sandal comes loose after a dunking in Manila’s flooded streets, and the repair would cost more than its purchase price, the damaged footwear shares the same fate as all other defective items that have been bought.
    The moral of the story here has become: you get what you pay for. Ironically, the culpability for poor quality products has shifted to the consumer; and the producer is allowed to go scot-free, to continue producing more of the same inferior products that would be bought by other gullible consumers.
    Perforated intestines
    It took three American children suffering from perforated intestines after swallowing magnets that had fallen out of their play things for Mattel to move for a recall of some 18 million of their Chinese-made products worldwide – and for the appropriate US regulatory agencies to respond more forcefully.
    Now, media is suddenly bringing to fore toothpastes contaminated with toxic chemicals, necklaces and toys for children that have high levels of lead, potentially unsafe vehicle tires, puffer fish passed off as monk fish, glassware that could without notice break and cause cuts, even pet food containing contaminated vegetable proteins that could lead to sickness and death in cats and dogs.
    How long before the world will once again trust goods made in China depends on how resolute and transparent its government will be in resolving the problem. For sure though, America can expect fewer goods from China priced at such bargain rates. We are now starting to realize why many Chinese products are so cheap. They not only pay low wages to their workers, they also employ extensive and indiscriminate production cuts, often those that bring their standards to below-acceptable levels.
    Dumping ground
    While America tightens on the quality of its imports from China, the rest of the world can expect a flood of rejected goods to wash their way. For countries like the Philippines which have poor regulatory enforcement standards, there will always be doors opened to accept these substandard goods.



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    made in china products seem to getting a lot of pressure these days. laman ng business & time magz, intl. cable news network sila ah.

    in other news some 93 Panamanians died from a made in china cough syrup. and of course, the recall of Barbie dolls which also led to the suicide of a Chinese toy factory owner.

    America convinced or (was it) "lured" them to switch from communism to capitalism almost a decade ago. China still hesitant but tried the idea. tapos lumaki kagad ulo hahaha.

    if these negative news continue, then I will say ang galing talaga ng CIA/think tank ng America. sa dami ng factories ngaun sa China without the assurance of buying customers, yari sila ipit ang economy nila.

    The Chinese should have researched what happened to the American Factories in early 1900's and their reputation in those times.

    kasi pina-history repeat itself ng mga Americans sa mga Chinese hahaha. I wonder how can they recover now. delikado yan

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    There are also those Chinese-made penlight batteries (yung kamukha ng Energizer, pero iba yung tatak) that get completely drained after only a few minutes of operation.

    The Chinese should have researched what happened to the American Factories in early 1900's and their reputation in those times.
    oldblue,

    Absent yata ako nung tinuro ito sa school. What was the reputation of US factories in the early 1900s?

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    back in those times, American products were considered inferior by the whole world or at least the Europeans siguro kasi sila naman ang parang puwede i-consider na first world noon.

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    Umpisa na economy war ng China and US. lapit na olympics.

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    One of the reasons for this trade war between the US and China is the latter's refusal to allow its currency to be dictated by market demands. Like Malaysia and HK, the renmenbi is pegged or have a fixed exchange rate against the US dollar.

    The accusations of the US against the Chinese made products may or may not be true. Remember that Mattel, et al are giant US companies. They should take the blame for this since they were the ones who approved the productions of the products, they were the ones who should have looked into the source of the raw materials used for their products. The Chinese manufacturers may have used a different raw material to cut cost during production without informing the US Co., but being a big multinational company, don't they do a random quality control on their finished products before shipping it to their resellers?
    Last edited by boybi; August 18th, 2007 at 10:43 AM.

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    The tendency of Chinese products is that they easily break down. Yung batteries nila nag-iinit or nag-le-leak kaagad. Mga appliances nila poor ang quality.

    Yung sapatos, bag, damit nila mahinang klase.

    My favorite local manufacturer of shoes, Mendrez ay sinira reputation nila kasi they are now selling low quality Made in China shoes that they say na Made in Marikina.... Ang layo sa gawang Marikina nung China made.

    I think reputable local manufacturers should not resort to cutting cost by selling Made in China products kasi lalo silang masisira....ang dali pa naman masira yung fake na leather o matanggal yung suwelas ng made in China na sapatos.

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    came across an article couple of days ago....China now lead as the most polluted place on Earth..Sad.

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    Right from the very first time I heard about it I told myself.. this has got to be politically motivated.China is poised to become the next super power, people have been buzzing about it. I thought, well the world's current super power can't stop the inevitable... But I kinda anticipated something like this just before the Beijing olympics.
    In Beijing you can just feel the excitement in the air, the Chinese know that this is their chance to boost tourism, show the world what China is all about. But I guess the world's current super power
    couldn't and wouldn't let China steal the spotlight would they?

    Iam not pro china, heck my money was stolen in the airport while I was in Beijing, but I think China became a threat and the ruling group would do anything to maintain their hegemony.

    Politically motivated or not we had to get rid of the baby stuff I recently bought in Rustans. haaay

    I wonder how China would recover from this one.The struggle for dominance can get nasty and they should have anticipated something like this.
    Last edited by mamichula; August 19th, 2007 at 04:12 AM.

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    2008 will be a good year to start world war 3 daw yun siguro isip ng china. Kasi swerte sila next year

    Pero sabi naman ng US, 8-2=6 so malas ang china

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    basta ako as much as possible di me bumibili ng gawang intsik.mas ok pa kung made in pinas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VtEC View Post
    basta ako as much as possible di me bumibili ng gawang intsik.mas ok pa kung made in pinas.


    I definite agree.

    Beware nga pala sa mga laruan na kasama sa mga happy meal ng mga fast food. baka, delikado yun kasi puro china made, sinusubo pa naman minsan ng mga bata yung mga toys....

    Marami din kasing company sa Pinas, to cut cost ay inferior products from other countries ang binebenta, pero pinalalabas na gawa sa atin.....

    Dun sila nasisira. Tulad ng mga institusyon na sa Pinas ang 3D at Standard Appliances--try an appliances made in china....110% in a few weeks warak na.....3D at standard dati, bentilador nila 10 years na gumagana pa. Ngayon dahil made in china na, ilan buwan lang sunog na...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey177 View Post
    There are also those Chinese-made penlight batteries (yung kamukha ng Energizer, pero iba yung tatak) that get completely drained after only a few minutes of operation.

    some even begin to rust/leak right in the package. not something you'd want your kids to be near at, or put in their mouths

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    Last night, UK/European community found out that fabrics used for clothing contains excessive formalin.

    Btw, do you buy these brands: meque, jbc, kingsonic, pensonic, soao, tamashi, changchong, fukuda, prince, artech, matsuda, mitsuboshi, marubishi, akira, tcl, sonia, sunny, etc. etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ineedmorehp View Post
    Last night, UK/European community found out that fabrics used for clothing contains excessive formalin.

    Btw, do you buy these brands: meque, jbc, kingsonic, pensonic, soao, tamashi, changchong, fukuda, prince, artech, matsuda, mitsuboshi, marubishi, akira, tcl, sonia, sunny, etc. etc.?


    Sir, yung fukuda, marubishi at mitsuboshi local. Ang TCL, akira, kingsonic, sonia mga made in china. In fairness, ok ang marubishi at mitsuboshi medyo matibay kumpara sa mga chinese made. nasubukan ko na. TCL gawa na sa Pinas, ang manufacturer dito ay yung dating manufacturer ng local AIWA at Sony..ang Solid Group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imprezawrxsti View Post
    came across an article couple of days ago....China now lead as the most polluted place on Earth..Sad.
    that's how the US weakens the other superpowers. both Russia and China are experiencing the mistake of the US in the past.

    actually yan lang naman talaga sine-share ng US sa kanila eh, akala lang nila ok kasi kumikita sila hehehe

    kung tuusin kaya nga siguro pinadala ng Hollywood sila Seagal saka Van Damme saka Snipes duon kasi gusto nila puros violent movies papalabas sa Russia. and with violent motion pictures, ano mangyayari sa nationals nila, mga war freak therefore hindi kagad ganun ka-mature sila as a society

    napakagaling ng think tank ng US. China, Korea, Japan or Taiwan akala nala they have beaten US bec. of their manufacturing economy.

    sa computers lang eh kala nila panalo na sila but wait sino ba ang naghahari sa computers, software and where are they? in the US, Jobs and Gates. even Google dubbed to be bigger than MS in the next decade, US pa din. R&D teh best!

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    poor quality materials ang ginagamit ng china...madalas din poor workmanship............. maling at maxam.......beware.....

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    pukpok na pukpok ang china ah

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    sama nyo na ang LIFEBOATS sa list ng inferior products! nakngpu, lifesaving equipment na papatay sa iyo!

    eto ang kwento. dito sa new company na pinasukan ko puro bago ang mga rigs, new build kung baga. so bago lahat. bago oil rig, bago lifeboat. ang ganda, ang kinis, makintab lahat ng "stainless steel" parts. nung una lang. after 6 months, ni hindi pa kami umaalis ng shipyard, may kalawang ang "stainless". tiwala kami kasi ang tatak ay "norsafe", kilalang lifeboat maker sa buong mundo, norwegian company na nangunguna sa marine engineering. yun pala, ang nakngpu na lifeboat namin ay "norsafe, china". as in outsourced na din pati lifeboats! at hindi lang kalawang, unsafe pa. launch namin ang isa 2 weeks ago, ayun muntik na pumatay ng tao. naputol ang "stainless steel" pin ng release mechanism nung i-raise na sana ulit sa davits. buti na lang wala pa 1 meter ang inakyat at hindi nasaktan mga tao sa loob. ngayon grounded lahat ng lifeboats namin, i-inspect lahat ng release mechanisms.

    dami pa iba. mga "trouble free" vacuum toilet system na "free trouble" pala. eto yung kagaya sa eroplano na pag ni-flush mo e "swoooosh" bye-bye ebak tapos sasakit konti ang eardrums mo dahil sa vacuum. araw-araw kawawa ang motorman ko, average 7 toilets ginagawa nya. naubos na spares sa warehouse na good for 2 years operation, e wala pa nga kami sa operation. order ako ngayon ng sandamukal na toilet system parts. pati ang treatment plant sakit sa ulo, made in china din. hydraulic hoses na kala namin made in US kasi galing sa supplier sa houston, tatak US lang pala made in china din. pressure testing at 2x ng SWP, putok. e dapat ang burst pressure 5x, e 2x pa lang sabog na. mga smoke/heat detectors na puro false alarm. wala na nga naniniwala sa fire alarm dito. tinutulugan ko na lang pag may fire alarm, 10x a day ba naman tutunog e.


    di bale, lilipat na ako ulit ng company. mahirap na baka ako matoka magtest ng lifeboat e maging kabaong ko pa ang lintek na made in china na mga yun. sana pumasa sa interview!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpdm View Post
    My favorite local manufacturer of shoes, Mendrez ay sinira reputation nila kasi they are now selling low quality Made in China shoes that they say na Made in Marikina.... Ang layo sa gawang Marikina nung China made.
    Yung Mendrez ko, mag two years na ok pa din. Ako na ang sumuko. Siguro hndi pa sya china nung binili ko. Matignan nga.

    Eh pano yung mga Nike, Adidas at iba pang mga signature shoes na sapatos natin? Mga China yun?

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