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  1. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    And incompetent people to manage those tunnels? - incompetent from your point of view, but remember if the car driver beside you is incompetent, you should pray and give thanks to God that you have arrived to your destination without an accident.


    I see thousands of dead people drowned in their cars the first time it rains - me kasabihan nga tayo, meron tulo ang bubong pag umuulan lang, para wag ka malunod pag meron ng tubig ang tunnel wag ka na papasok.


    The better solution is elevated highways. 2, 3 and even 4 level highways -construction of a elevated highway will add congestion on the road it will put upon. kung ung maliit natin kalsada ay puno na nga ng mga vehicles kaya matraffic, just imagine dagdagan mo pa ng construction crew. Saka ang elevated highway will not help divert the floodwaters, it just keep your car dry while the people/houses/vehicles below are soaked in floodwater.


    They should live where they work or work where they live - people who travel with their vehicles to work uses the road for 2-3 hours only, most of the time their vehicles are parked.


    Most of our traffic problem is caused by public transport not managed properly, imagine a PUV travelling at 10kph and blocks the vehicle behind him to ensure no other PUV will collect the potential passengers.


    1. Solution is to discipline the PUV drivers.
    2. Divert the traffic without adding loads on existing road network.
    when i said incompetent people to manage, i meant INCOMPETENT PEOPLE TO MANAGE. I DID NOT MEAN DRIVERS, I MEANT THE PEOPLE MANAGING NG SYSTEM OF TUNNELS. malinaw naman ang post ko e, pakibasa ulit please.

    For the elevated hiway system, yes congested when the construction is ongoing. Pero after hindi na. Think skyway.

    As for your tunnels, if purely for use as drainage ok yan. Imagine the whole of espana blvd with a giant drainage tunnel below it. A super estero where squaters will not be able to build houses on! Pero as a part-time road network, it will be a disaster waiting to happen. Flash floods do happen, and it takes many minutes to vacate a tunnel of cars. Sa malaysia ok yun, they have competent weather prediction and competent traffic managers.

    They should live where they work or work where they live does not apply to people with cars only. It should be everyone, including the jeepney and bus riders. If there are no people needing to ride the jeepney or bus then those jeepneys and buses will die a natural death.

    Opinions lang naman ito. Pasensya na kung salungat sa opinions mo.

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    Liwanagin ko lang ang previous post ko,- as employees our salaries, allowances, benefits, bonuses et al are NOT ENTITLEMENTS.

    They are PAYMENTS for the services we provide and goods we produce.

    Now, if one or more of these compensations is/are way way higher than the industry bellweather for a similar type of goods and services (whether private or public company/industry) you do, then either you are lucky for being in that company which provides well for its employees, or you are in a shady company.

    Being in a government company or agency with that type of compensation complicates things, especially if the people do not get proper services or goods that they deserve... So there goes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    when i said incompetent people to manage, i meant INCOMPETENT PEOPLE TO MANAGE. I DID NOT MEAN DRIVERS, I MEANT THE PEOPLE MANAGING NG SYSTEM OF TUNNELS. malinaw naman ang post ko e, pakibasa ulit please.

    For the elevated hiway system, yes congested when the construction is ongoing. Pero after hindi na. Think skyway.

    As for your tunnels, if purely for use as drainage ok yan. Imagine the whole of espana blvd with a giant drainage tunnel below it. A super estero where squaters will not be able to build houses on! Pero as a part-time road network, it will be a disaster waiting to happen. Flash floods do happen, and it takes many minutes to vacate a tunnel of cars. Sa malaysia ok yun, they have competent weather prediction and competent traffic managers.

    They should live where they work or work where they live does not apply to people with cars only. It should be everyone, including the jeepney and bus riders. If there are no people needing to ride the jeepney or bus then those jeepneys and buses will die a natural death.

    Opinions lang naman ito. Pasensya na kung salungat sa opinions mo.

    Although I agree with you on the tunnels bit, specially in Manila where tunnel boring machines i doubt would work given that Manila was bombed well back to the dark ages during World War II, there would be plenty of unexploded ordnance underground that poses potential hazards when drilling.

    What I don't agree, at least anymore, that we dismiss the Filipinos as being an incompetent bunch. If everybody had the same way of thinking, we will never progress ever. If you think that is the current reality, then fine. But to think in the future, we are still an incompetent bunch, we won't have faith in ourselves to grow.

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