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    Let cooler heads prevail in water row
    THE CORNER ORACLE - Andrew J. Masigan (The Philippine Star) - December 11, 2019 - 12:00am
    The most expensive water is having no water. I still remember how it was during the height of the water crisis. From 1994 to 1998, water was only available for one hour, every 12 hours in Mandaluyong. We had to hoard water and ration it throughout the day. If our hoard was insufficient, we had to buy more supply from a nearby vendor who owned a deep well. These vendors sold water at P30 to P62 per small drum. Back then, our household spent about P6,000 per month on water not withstanding the great inconvenience of water rationing.

    These days, our water bill is P3,500 per month, but supply is 24/7 and the water pressure is adequate. Those who lived through the water crisis will agree that life is infinitely better these days with Maynilad and Manila Water Company (MWC) as the city’s water concessionaires.

    President Ramos did what he had to do to solve the water crisis. He sought emergency powers from Congress to privatize the scandalously corrupt and brazenly inefficient Metropolitan Waterworks and Sewerage System (MWSS). It will be recalled that the MWSS was so inept that it only distributed water intermittently to 69 percent of the metropolis despite amassing debts of $1 billion. The MWSS was is such dire straits that it could not sustain its own operations let alone solve the crisis. Worse, it had no means to repay its debts. Privatization was the only way out.

    To provide water connectivity and sewer facilities to a city that spans 619 square kilometers is no easy feat. It required capital in the hundreds of billions and a committed management willing to put in the time. It necessitated working under the short leash of government. It required absorbing $1 billion of MWSS’ debts. All these for a measly rate of return of seven to 12 percent.

    The privatization of MWSS was a hard sell and FVR knew it. This is why he provided a rate rebasing mechanism in the concession agreement. The rebasing mechanism allows the adjustment of water rates every five years to determine the most equitable rates for the concessionaires to recover its investments. FVR needed to make the deal viable enough to attract investors. He was desperate….. the country was desperate.

    In 1997, MWSS was successfully privatized to Maynilad and MWC. Both concessionaires absorbed the debts of MWSS and worked swiftly to provide the city with running water. Today, 96 percent of Metro Manila is connected to the water supply grid and 47% of the city will have wastewater treatment plants by 2021 (it was almost nil during the time of MWSS).

    The President blew his top when an arbitration court in Singapore ruled for government to pay Maynilad P3.6 billion and MWC P7.4 billion over losses due to a delayed rate increase. The rate increase was requested during the Aquino administration who ignored it.

    Not only did the President say he would defy the court’s ruling, he also ordered Solicitor General Jose Calida to craft a new water contract that will be “favorable to the public”. He further lashed out at the Ayala family and Manny Pangilinan and threatened to take them down for plunder.

    Leftist groups and patronizing allies of the President fueled the anger-fest and called for the nullification of the concessionaires’ contract. They foolishly suggested that the concessions be nationalized. As if the MWSS has the management skills or capital to do the job.

    Look, we must understand that this is a business deal. These concessionaires need to get a decent return for the capital they continue to shell out, not to mention their operations costs. This is only fair. Sure, their services are imperfect but let us not take for granted that they solved the water crisis when government could not.

    MWC and Maynilad sought the intervention of the Singaporean courts to collect the foregone income from a price increase that should have been effected years ago. If we strictly go by the terms of the concession agreement, this foregone income is rightfully theirs. They just did what any professional corporation would do – seek the court’s help to collect it. Again, they are a business and not a source of government subsidy.

    If government really wants heads to roll, it should look at those who crafted and signed-off on the concessionaires’ agreement – which is FVR himself, his legal counsel, former Senator Rene Cayetano and the Congress of the time.

    To say that Maynilad and MWC are encroaching on the country’s sovereignty is a stretch. The concessionaires merely adhered to the terms of the contract which the Philippine government itself had drafted. To punish them for it is like castigating a pupil for following the student handbook.

    At this point, cooler heads must prevail. Everything can be solved through dialogue. The Ayalas were right to suggest that both parties try to arrive at a “workable solution”.

    Dialogue is a better approach rather than changing the terms of a privatization contract midstream or worse, nullifying it. Going down this road will cause severe damage and will be a great disservice to the Filipino people. It will tell the world that our justice system is pliable according to the moods of its politicians and that contracts aren’t honored. No foreign investor will touch the Philippines with a ten foot pole. It’s bad enough that our share of investments is a shameful 11.5% of the ASEAN pie. Our competitive ratings will drop and we can expect a downgrade in our credit rating score. This, in turn, will trigger an increase in interest rates for the country’s debts. It will cost government more than the amounts owed to Maynilad and MWC.

    About the early renewal of the concession, it was President GMA who extended the Concession Agreement up to 2037 after realizing the need for more water and wastewater investments. The Clean Air Act mandated the concessionaires to establish sewer and wastewater treatment plants for 100% of the metropolis. This requires an investment commitment of P458 billion. Government did not have the money so it opted to simply extend the term of the concessionaire’s contract.

    As I write this, I received the news that the President is willing to sit down with Mr. Pangilinan and the Ayala brothers to re-negotiate the terms of the contract. A re-negotiation is fine, provided it is done by mutual consent. What will cause damage is the unilateral nullification or replacement of the concession agreement. Let us hope this row is settled sensibly.

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    #782
    Interesting. This Tiglao character is really a big liar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    Interesting. This Tiglao character is really a big liar.


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    He's just kissing this admin's arse as way of showing his gratitude for the release of his former boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    He's just kissing this admin's arse as way of showing his gratitude for the release of his former boss.
    Or maybe he wants to get something in return -- a plum government position with a big salary for all his demolition efforts, perhaps?

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    #786
    This happened before that:
    Stock market: P127B lost after Duterte hits water firms | Inquirer News

    Wonder how much that declaration will push stock prices further down.

    Nauna na yung bagsak ng ABS stock.

    Seems an awfully bigger step vs just reneging on a contract. I faintly remember someone saying something about economic sabotage. 🤔

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    #788
    The banks have to protect themselves.

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    #789
    Call his bluff. Let the military take over the water services.


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    DOJ: Gov’t not replacing water concessionaires | Inquirer News

    DAVAO CITY, Philippines — Finance Secretary Carlos Dominguez III on Tuesday expressed confidence that potential investors would not be turned off with the government’s push to renegotiate the onerous provisions of the concession agreements with the two water distributors in Metro Manila and nearby areas.

    Dominguez sought to calm the markets as Justice Secretary Menardo Guevarra assured Manila Water Co. Inc. and Maynilad Water Services Inc. that the government was “not even thinking” of replacing them as water concessionaires.
    buti na lang, ayoko ng bumalik nun 1990's na sobrang hirap sa tubig

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    #791
    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    DOJ: Gov’t not replacing water concessionaires | Inquirer News



    buti na lang, ayoko ng bumalik nun 1990's na sobrang hirap sa tubig
    only those who experienced those pasts, will appreciate what the current distributors have done.
    same with electricity. back in the day, we were already busy at the workplace at 6 am, because electricity would disappear by 1 pm.

    but we should do something to bring down their costs...

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    #792
    oh mga taga south



    24 Oras: Lalaki, na-huli cam na sumasalok ng tubig mula sa manhole para raw gamitin sa samalamig

    Ram Chu5 days ago
    Sa baclaran yan papasok ng aguara st. Kaya kming mga tga dito never tlg kaming bumili ng palamig jan, napaka baboy wla pa kcng nag susuplong jn

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    oh mga taga south



    24 Oras: Lalaki, na-huli cam na sumasalok ng tubig mula sa manhole para raw gamitin sa samalamig

    Ram Chu5 days ago
    Sa baclaran yan papasok ng aguara st. Kaya kming mga tga dito never tlg kaming bumili ng palamig jan, napaka baboy wla pa kcng nag susuplong jn
    Technically Parañaque nga ang Baclaran, pero hinde consider na "south" yan. Eh mas malapit pa sa Pasay diyan eh.


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    #794
    ^bad trip naman yan, hilig ko pa naman uminom ng sago/gulaman palamig

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    i wonder,
    how much of our water output remains "un-accounted for" ?
    ...yung hindi dumadaan sa kuntador.. yung nasasayang sa tulo.. yung binabayaran pa rin natin kahit ganyan!!

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    #796
    as if naman sa south lang nangyayari yan

    kahit north east west ung mga nagtitinda ng ganyan wala naman paki kung magkasakit mga customer nila

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    #797
    asan na ung rain til january

    haha

    sisiw mga dam

    haha

    #watercrisis2020

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    #798
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    as if naman sa south lang nangyayari yan

    kahit north east west ung mga nagtitinda ng ganyan wala naman paki kung magkasakit mga customer nila
    Walang ganyan sa true QC. Pero sabi ni OB mga barbaric tao ng QC. [emoji23]


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    #799
    pag sa true qc malinis ang paninda ng sidewalk / ambulant vendors?

    haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    as if naman sa south lang nangyayari yan

    kahit north east west ung mga nagtitinda ng ganyan wala naman paki kung magkasakit mga customer nila
    yung iba, may timba na may tubig, sa tabi ng kariton nila.
    lahat nang ginamit ng costumer na baso, plato, kubyertos...
    dun sa isang timbang yon binabanlawan.
    wala nang hugas at sabon.
    banlaw lang.
    Last edited by dr. d; December 29th, 2019 at 07:32 PM.

Impending Water Crisis??