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    Palace wants to study plan to build Disneyland in Pampanga
    April 21, 2012 2:30pm


    Malacañang wants to study first a proposal by a congressman to have the Walt Disney Co. build a Disneyland theme park in Pampanga province.

    Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said there is no reason to block such an idea if it is found to be a “reasonable” proposal.

    “That has to be studied... We get the general idea, it will bring in business and promote tourism, may multiplier effect ang ganoong project [but] we have to study it first," she said on government-run dzRB radio.

    She said President Benigno Aquino III himself said at an energy summit in Mindanao earlier this month that if a proposal is reasonable, there is “no reason why we should not look into it.”

    Earlier reports said Pampanga Rep. Carmelo Lazatin is pushing to have a Disneyland theme park in Clark Freeport.

    Lazatin has also asked the Department of Tourism to support his bid.

    He added a Disneyland at Clark Freeport would help boost tourism and increase government revenue. — LBG, GMA News
    source: Palace wants to study plan to build Disneyland in Pampanga | GMA News Online | The Go-To Site for Filipinos Everywhere

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    La bang undecided sa poll? I haven't seen all of the facilities in clark kung kaya ang addt'l influx of tourist eh and if pricing will be competitive?

    But Disneyland in HK and Japan is really an attraction. Mauuna pa matapos if ever yung Shanghai Disneyland.
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    balita dati Disneyland was supposed to be built here instead of HK. I was in HS then, it was supposed to be built at splendido Tagaytay...I remembered cuz we almost bought a lot there bec if this...back then parang 4k/month lang ang hulog...

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    Hay Naku, another one of the Stupid Pa-asa Proposals that won't take off.

    Impossible to put up a Disneyland in the Philippines:

    1. HK is too near.
    2. 20 Typhoons a year
    3. Earthquake Zone
    4. Floods
    5, 35 Degree Heat
    6. Poor infrastructure
    7. Poor FAA CAT2 Airport Rating
    8. Crime and Dirt
    9. Corrupt People
    10. High Energy Cost

    Tiyaga na lang kayo sa Enchanted Kingdom.
    Last edited by marg; April 21st, 2012 at 05:26 PM.

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    Having seen some parts of Clark, I think it would work. So my vote would be yes.

    And tama si Shadow, cinonsider talaga ang Pilipinas before as a Disneyland site before. Pero tama rin si marg, HK is already too near. Para ka lang nagtayo ng dalawang parehong establishments 1 block apart.

    Pero who knows, if indeed it will push through I think magcclick naman to most filipinos. Hinde naman kasi lahat may gana or may means to go to HK or SG.

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    Sige na! Para lahat, makapunta na sa Disneyland...

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    Hindi tatagal magKakaroon din ng Disneyland sa pinas. Pag sawa na lahat ng tao sa Disneyland except pinoys. Hehe

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    Just an observation.

    I've been to Tokyo Disneyland and Universal Studios Osaka.

    Ordinary entrance fee is JPY6,000.

    If you work in a factory here (Japanese or not), you may earn a minimum of around JPY150,000 if you work 8 hours a day. This is based on my friend's information (I'm a student). This is just a minimum for a full-time job without overtime.

    So you see, these people can afford to go to these parks on a regular basis if they want to even for those who are not rich by Japanese standards.

    Fo the Philippines, my question is how can a Disneyland financially sustain its operation in the Philippines given the socio-economic status of most of the Filipinos?

    How much would be the entrance fee?

    How many Pinoys will actually go there on a regular basis?

    Will there be enough foreign tourists who will visit it considering there is a similar theme park in a nearby Hong Kong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourtheboys96 View Post
    Just an observation.

    I've been to Tokyo Disneyland and Universal Studios Osaka.

    Ordinary entrance fee is JPY6,000.

    If you work in a factory here (Japanese or not), you may earn a minimum of around JPY150,000 if you work 8 hours a day. This is based on my friend's information (I'm a student). This is just a minimum for a full-time job without overtime.

    So you see, these people can afford to go to these parks on a regular basis if they want to even for those who are not rich by Japanese standards.

    Fo the Philippines, my question is how can a Disneyland financially sustain its operation in the Philippines given the socio-economic status of most of the Filipinos?

    How much would be the entrance fee?

    How many Pinoys will actually go there on a regular basis?

    Will there be enough foreign tourists who will visit it considering there is a similar theme park in a nearby Hong Kong?
    Mismo!!

    For this to work, the local market should at least be able to cover for some % of market to be able to break even... the local economy should be able to able to afford the park... meaning locals pa lang, the best is break even na agad... now.. does the local Pinoys expect to get preferred rates? perhaps yes.. but to a point na tipong 200 pesos lang (parang nanood lang ng sine) and yet ride all you can na? I doubt.. how much na ba entrance now ng Enchanted Kingdom? I heard lubog sa utang to... di rin ugali ng tao Pinoy ang theme park all year round.. mostly magpapasko din lang.. so how do you expect the local economy to help Disneyland to break even... kung aasa na sa foreign tourists.. yan you have to compete na with HK, Shanghai, Tokyo.... then all the other factors as a tourist destination comes in - airport, roads, hotels, transportation, etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
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    9. Corrupt People ...
    huwag naman corrupt people

    baka corrupt government officials, local and national


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    I'm all in favor.

    Obviously, the airport would have to be upgraded to meet US FAA if not ICAO standards so that international flights can go direct to Clark.

    Second, the high speed rail system should be put on track (pardon the pun) so that those arriving from NAIA can go direct to Clark.

    Third, there can be a deal done in order for both the LGU and the park to get some money. It should be a mix of revenue-sharing and fixed minimum income.

    I think it's worth exploring since all you have is a lot of unused and untapped property in Clark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    I'm all in favor.

    Obviously, the airport would have to be upgraded to meet US FAA if not ICAO standards so that international flights can go direct to Clark.

    Second, the high speed rail system should be put on track (pardon the pun) so that those arriving from NAIA can go direct to Clark.

    Third, there can be a deal done in order for both the LGU and the park to get some money. It should be a mix of revenue-sharing and fixed minimum income.

    I think it's worth exploring since all you have is a lot of unused and untapped property in Clark.
    Well, the question will be is there enough demand to being in the profit to keep this venture afloat i.e. enough to cover the fixed minimum income and the revenue-sharing.

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    Siguro kung yung entrance fee katulad sa Enchanted Kingdom, possible.

    Basta huwag lang aabot ng 900-1k/head medyo masakit na sa pandinig ng common families yun.

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    The Park were dreams come true...not in the Philippines. Many reason were already mentioned. Do you know Hong Kong Disneyland has been a loss making operation in the miilions of US$? It is partially owned by the HK goverment, so it is subsidized with taxpayer money. Eh yung PNoy goverment nga sobrang kuripot, papayag ba si Mickey kung di sasagutin ng gobyerno pag nalugi? The country is too poor to afford one...

    Hong Kong Disneyland Narrows 2011 Loss to $30.5 Million

    No profit in sight for the five-year old park, with local resentment growing.

    HONG KONG – The Hong Kong Disneyland recorded a net loss of HK$237 million (US$30.5 million) on over HK$500 million in revenue for the fiscal year ending in Oct. 2011, the highest since the theme park opened its doors in 2005, but with still no profit in sight.

    The company attributes the increased revenues of HK$3.63 billion, and EBITDA of HK$506 million, to a surge in park attendance, hotel occupancy, and guest spending.

    Nevertheless, the theme park still recorded a net loss for 2011 – a three-fold improvement from the dismal results of a net loss of HK$718 million in 2010.

    Visitors from China are the driving force behind the improved results, with 45% of total park attendees coming from there, marking an increase of 20% from 2010. Hong Kong visitors accounted for 31%.

    Now in operation for five years, 31 million people have visited Hong Kong Disneyland.

    In Nov. 2011, the theme park saw its first themed area in the HK$3.63 billion expansion project -- the 2009-approved Toy Story Land – completed and opened. The next two world-exclusive themed areas, Grizzly Gulch and Mystic Point, will be in service this summer and in spring 2013, respectively.

    In a statement announcing the record earnings, the company justified the expansion plan, unpopular among local legislators, who likened the approval process as “being hijacked” when it was passed in 2009, by claiming it would create jobs in the fields of construction and hospitality.

    The theme park and resort is a joint venture between The Walt Disney Co. and the Hong Kong government, holding 47% and 53% stakes, respectively. As cited in the initial agreement, Disney is compensated for 6.5% of EBITDA, or a total of HK$32 million. But the government currently receives no revenue due to the theme park’s continual losses.

    U.S.-based Disney also maintained in its press release that the rise in revenue has “brought about HK$6.7 billion of value added to Hong Kong in fiscal year 2011, which is equivalent to around 0.4% of Hong Kong’s GDP.”

    However, for all the company’s assertions of the theme park’s contribution to society, the Hong Kong government has already provided $420 million as equity and a $725 million as loan to the joint venture with the Walt Disney Co. since 1999, and has spent $1.4 billion on land reclamation fees and related community facilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The Park were dreams come true...not in the Philippines. Many reason were already mentioned. Do you know Hong Kong Disneyland has been a loss making operation in the miilions of US$? It is partially owned by the HK goverment, so it is subsidized with taxpayer money. Eh yung PNoy goverment nga sobrang kuripot, papayag ba si Mickey kung di sasagutin ng gobyerno pag nalugi? The country is too poor to afford one...
    Government owning a stake in the proposed Disney Theme Park would likely not be the business model here. It's more like a build-own-operate scheme with a straight-up land lease, meaning, the proponent would shoulder all the development cost and lease the land.

    What the project proponent would demand as a precondition is a huge investment or expenditure from both the national government and LGU in improving all major infrastructure (highways, roads, airport, rapid trains) which would make the theme park easily accessible by domestic and foreign tourists. It can also demand preferential tax treatment if not an income tax holiday for the first five years of its operations.


    Also, its not likely to be subsidized by government so you can expect pricing of entrance to the park similar to what you'd find in HK. To accommodate domestic visitors from lower income brackets, the park can issue a limited number of tickets with a lower price for a specific period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The Park were dreams come true...not in the Philippines. Many reason were already mentioned. Do you know Hong Kong Disneyland has been a loss making operation in the miilions of US$? It is partially owned by the HK goverment, so it is subsidized with taxpayer money. Eh yung PNoy goverment nga sobrang kuripot, papayag ba si Mickey kung di sasagutin ng gobyerno pag nalugi? The country is too poor to afford one...
    E kung ganyan at palugi ang proposition,- huwag na lang....

    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    I'm all in favor.

    Obviously, the airport would have to be upgraded to meet US FAA if not ICAO standards so that international flights can go direct to Clark.

    Second, the high speed rail system should be put on track (pardon the pun) so that those arriving from NAIA can go direct to Clark.

    Third, there can be a deal done in order for both the LGU and the park to get some money. It should be a mix of revenue-sharing and fixed minimum income.

    I think it's worth exploring since all you have is a lot of unused and untapped property in Clark.
    Puwedeng i-advertise as family entertainment package... Iyong Nanay, mga Tiya at mga anak, sa Disneyland...

    Iyong Tatay at mga Tiyo,- sa tabi-tabi... :naughty2:

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    Sa simula ang pupunta may kaya lang, then pag lumaon at marami rami ng masang pilipino nakaipon para makapunta dito. Pinoy mentality, yung may kaya ayaw pumunta sa Disneyland Philippines kasi madami jologs, mas gustong nalang gumastos ng airfare at accomodation papunta HK wag lang makisabay sa masang pinoy.

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    magtayo nalang ng theme park ang ABSCBN

    gamitin nila mga fantasy characters na inimbento nila

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    Disneyland would be a waste of money. There's already HK Disneyland and Disneyland in Japan... why come here?

    We should focus on making unique attractions, instead.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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