House Constuction [Merged]

**Elroi** · August 6th, 2006 02:36 PM

balak namin pagawa new house dahil parati baha dito sa lugar namin. me nakausap na kami several architect/contractor and they quoted 15k up depende sa design and materials. split level yung balak namin (5br,3cr) on a 600sqm lot.. yung living room,kitchen,guest at maids ay elevated by 1-1.5m sa street level. then another 1m elevation yung 3 main bedrooms.

balak namin ay straight contract na kasi wala time para i-supervise pagawa.. okay ba paumpisa na by sept kasi pababa na daw price ng materials..

can you give us advices before we sign any contract. what are the do's and don'ts..

**mikmik316** · August 6th, 2006 04:29 PM

hmm... the fact na palagi binabaha jan dapat muna gawan ng paraan ang baha by asking your baranggay to do something?

Pero kung palaging baha jan... baka dapat lumipat na kayo ng location....

**Elroi** · August 7th, 2006 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by mikmik316

Pero kung palaging baha jan... baka dapat lumipat na kayo ng location....

yes, sa ibang subd na medyo mataas na kami papagawa.

Originally Posted by BoEinG_747

raikonen::wait mo si van_wilder ,marami pwede niya advice sa iyo

yeah.. galing nga ng tips ni van_wilder.. very informative at detailed talaga..

Originally Posted by igorbaby

Ayoko na magpaliguy-paligoy pa, but for all your House construction needs, I am highly recommending van_wilder as your contractor.

as much as i want to, baka malugi pa sya sakin coz outside the metro location ko..

yung last architect/contractor na nakausap namin is highly recommended ng client nya.halos puro houses din ang trabaho nya at may 3 sya on-going projects ngayon. no concrete talks yet. hinihingi lang nya photocopy ng title para maigawa daw kami ng sample design.

when you say straight contract, kasama na ba dun pagkuha at gastos sa lahat ng permits.. pati na din geodetic works.

**BoEinG_747** · August 6th, 2006 04:44 PM

raikonen::wait mo si van_wilder ,marami pwede niya advice sa iyo

**van_wilder** · August 6th, 2006 05:29 PM

hey, im a contractor, houses and for the government...

tips ko sa iyo...

-first conduct a site visit of the past projects done by the contractor, here you should meet the owners of the houses, because malalaman mo kung may reklamo. kung ayaw ng contractor that would already tell you something... ibig sabihin nagtatago...

-it would be better kung sanay na siya sa bahay, kasi kung hindi mahihirapan siya since bahay ang pinakamabusisi na gawin

-dont go for contractors who would recommend cheap materials 'para makatipid ka' usually these contractors ay babaratin ang materials para lumaki ang margin nila, dont go for contractors who are obviously trying to secure their profit... kung magkagipitan iiwan ka niyan...

-ask for building permit and all necessary permits, kahit sino pang demonyo ang contact nyan contractor mo sa city hall kung wala kang permit mahihirapan ka for basic utilities... we have lots of govt contacts but we never failed to acquire permits since magiging problem yun ng client in the future

-ask for the brand of materials to be used (kung roof tiles CPAC monier lang ang gamitin, kung sliding windows bradnams, medyo masmahal pero you'll see the difference)

-ask what tiles ang gagamitin, anong roofing, anong paint, etc...

-use phelp dodge sa electrical wires, para even yun kuryente, siyempre ayaw mo magkaroon ng malakas na kuryente on one side and walang kuryente on the other side

-sa painting use only boysen and have their marketing staff train your painters before painting (free of charge yun) or else faded yan pintura mo after 3months... primer and top coat dapat boysen... kung sinabi niya na pwede naman ibang brand sa primer, hindi marunong yun... dapat sa pintura yun primer ang masmaganda kasi yun ang foundation, kung pangit ang brand ng primer magtutuklap yan...

-after palitada dapat 14 days hindi gagalawin at sulatang ng chalk kung kelan yun last palitada kung may tiniktik at hinabol wag muna pinturahan yun part na yun wait for 14 days or magspot spot ang pintura mo after a year...

-make sure na may DATA, TELEPHONE, and CABLE connection ang buong bahay kahit hindi mo ito gagamitin agad, dapat naka-abang na... required na yun ngayon...

sa materials, maliit lang ang difference and contractor ang nag-aabsorb nun. after years in construction ito ang breakdown ng construction per year 1stQ - 24% 2ndQ - 27% 3rdQ - 22% 4thQ - 26% no difference masyado kaya dont worry about the price changes...

ang pinaka-importante, dapat may FIELD PERSONNEL or ARCHITECT/ENGINEER ON-SITE, hindi yun bumibisita lang everyday, yun nandoon buong maghapon, kahit yun contractor pa ang engineer/architect dapat may tao rin siya on-site hindi lang yun foreman... magkakaproblema yan kapag wala... dapat may bodegero din para may responsible sa mga materials or magkakanakawan yan...

last, ask for 1 year warranty and ask for after-sales service, where can you contact them, ask for their mobile number, website, email address, telephone number, and address... make sure nakadaan ka na sa office or house man lang nila para alam mo kung saan sila pwede habulin...

dun sa mga brands na recommend ko (especially phelp dodge) yan ang ginagamit namin kahit lumiliit ang profit namin ang amin lang is, dapat masaya and walang problema ang owners ng bahay (or even ang govt) alam namin na pinaghihirapan ang pera, so dapat the client should never ever feel shortchanged or dissatisfied...

if you have any questions please dont hesitate to ask me... il be very happy to answer it and help my fellow tsikoteers...

**chua_riwap** · August 6th, 2006 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by van_wilder

hey, im a contractor, houses and for the government...

tips ko sa iyo...

-first conduct a site visit of the past projects done by the contractor, here you should meet the owners of the houses, because malalaman mo kung may reklamo. kung ayaw ng contractor that would already tell you something... ibig sabihin nagtatago...

-it would be better kung sanay na siya sa bahay, kasi kung hindi mahihirapan siya since bahay ang pinakamabusisi na gawin

-dont go for contractors who would recommend cheap materials 'para makatipid ka' usually these contractors ay babaratin ang materials para lumaki ang margin nila, dont go for contractors who are obviously trying to secure their profit... kung magkagipitan iiwan ka niyan...

-ask for building permit and all necessary permits, kahit sino pang demonyo ang contact nyan contractor mo sa city hall kung wala kang permit mahihirapan ka for basic utilities... we have lots of govt contacts but we never failed to acquire permits since magiging problem yun ng client in the future

-ask for the brand of materials to be used (kung roof tiles CPAC monier lang ang gamitin, kung sliding windows bradnams, medyo masmahal pero you'll see the difference)

-ask what tiles ang gagamitin, anong roofing, anong paint, etc...

-use phelp dodge sa electrical wires, para even yun kuryente, siyempre ayaw mo magkaroon ng malakas na kuryente on one side and walang kuryente on the other side

-sa painting use only boysen and have their marketing staff train your painters before painting (free of charge yun) or else faded yan pintura mo after 3months... primer and top coat dapat boysen... kung sinabi niya na pwede naman ibang brand sa primer, hindi marunong yun... dapat sa pintura yun primer ang masmaganda kasi yun ang foundation, kung pangit ang brand ng primer magtutuklap yan...

-after palitada dapat 14 days hindi gagalawin at sulatang ng chalk kung kelan yun last palitada kung may tiniktik at hinabol wag muna pinturahan yun part na yun wait for 14 days or magspot spot ang pintura mo after a year...

-make sure na may DATA, TELEPHONE, and CABLE connection ang buong bahay kahit hindi mo ito gagamitin agad, dapat naka-abang na... required na yun ngayon...

sa materials, maliit lang ang difference and contractor ang nag-aabsorb nun. after years in construction ito ang breakdown ng construction per year 1stQ - 24% 2ndQ - 27% 3rdQ - 22% 4thQ - 26% no difference masyado kaya dont worry about the price changes...

ang pinaka-importante, dapat may FIELD PERSONNEL or ARCHITECT/ENGINEER ON-SITE, hindi yun bumibisita lang everyday, yun nandoon buong maghapon, kahit yun contractor pa ang engineer/architect dapat may tao rin siya on-site hindi lang yun foreman... magkakaproblema yan kapag wala... dapat may bodegero din para may responsible sa mga materials or magkakanakawan yan...

last, ask for 1 year warranty and ask for after-sales service, where can you contact them, ask for their mobile number, website, email address, telephone number, and address... make sure nakadaan ka na sa office or house man lang nila para alam mo kung saan sila pwede habulin...

dun sa mga brands na recommend ko (especially phelp dodge) yan ang ginagamit namin kahit lumiliit ang profit namin ang amin lang is, dapat masaya and walang problema ang owners ng bahay (or even ang govt) alam namin na pinaghihirapan ang pera, so dapat the client should never ever feel shortchanged or dissatisfied...

if you have any questions please dont hesitate to ask me... il be very happy to answer it and help my fellow tsikoteers...

Nice one, Sir Van. Nakakuha ako ng pointers.

Papagawa din ako kasi ng bahay, Sir..... So ok, pala yung CPAC. Yun kasi ang pam-bubong ko. Ano po ba ang alternative sa wood parquette? Madalas kasi natutuklap ito, pag katagalan, kaya ayoko na nito. Merong nauuso ngayon yung parang "laminated na tabla (T&G)", madalas ko makita ito sa mga boutique at shopping malls. Okay ba ito? Magkano ba presyo nito?

**van_wilder** · August 6th, 2006 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by chua_riwap

Nice one, Sir Van. Nakakuha ako ng pointers.

Papagawa din ako kasi ng bahay, Sir..... So ok, pala yung CPAC. Yun kasi ang pam-bubong ko. Ano po ba ang alternative sa wood parquette? Madalas kasi natutuklap ito, pag katagalan, kaya ayoko na nito. Merong nauuso ngayon yung parang "laminated na tabla (T&G)", madalas ko makita ito sa mga boutique at shopping malls. Okay ba ito? Magkano ba presyo nito?

yup masmaganda ang laminated, masmura siya sa wood pero hindi siya pwede mabasa... pero since bedroom naman kaya okay ito... we use laminated flooring and masmganda siya kaysa sa wood parquet... direct kami sa cpac and laminates kaya iba yun price namin, i'll ask our procurement staff...

kapag roof tiles (CPAC) iba ang spacing ng purlins... pero i guess naiayos naman yun sa design... kaya medyo mahal siya... pero at least hindi mainit kung summer

**chua_riwap** · August 6th, 2006 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by van_wilder

yup masmaganda ang laminated, masmura siya sa wood pero hindi siya pwede mabasa... pero since bedroom naman kaya okay ito... we use laminated flooring and masmganda siya kaysa sa wood parquet... direct kami sa cpac and laminates kaya iba yun price namin, i'll ask our procurement staff...

kapag roof tiles (CPAC) iba ang spacing ng purlins... pero i guess naiayos naman yun sa design... kaya medyo mahal siya... pero at least hindi mainit kung summer

Sir, salamat po....

Isang tanong pa Sir. (sensya na dami ko tanong, samantalahin ko na ito

)
Yung sa room partitions, ano po ba maigi, gypsum board o yung plywood na may concrete surface (ano ba pangalan nun, nalcrete ba?) Kung gypsum kasi, madaling mabutas ata, at di puwede mabasa.

Thanks po ulit.

**van_wilder** · August 6th, 2006 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by chua_riwap

Sir, salamat po....

Isang tanong pa Sir. (sensya na dami ko tanong, samantalahin ko na ito

)
Yung sa room partitions, ano po ba maigi, gypsum board o yung plywood na may concrete surface (ano ba pangalan nun, nalcrete ba?) Kung gypsum kasi, madaling mabutas ata, at di puwede mabasa.

Thanks po ulit.

dry wall... kaso gumagalaw minsan... masmaganda hollow blocks... kasi nabubutas at nabubutas pa rin yun dalawa... kung plywood yun sa loob ng concrete surface nagkakaroon ng water sippage...

**chua_riwap** · August 6th, 2006 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by van_wilder

dry wall... kaso gumagalaw minsan... masmaganda hollow blocks... kasi nabubutas at nabubutas pa rin yun dalawa... kung plywood yun sa loob ng concrete surface nagkakaroon ng water sippage...

Salamat po ulit.