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August 30th, 2007 10:21 AM #1
Ako personally eh not in favor of fraternities or sororities for that matter pero alam ko naman na maraming fraternities at sororities ang matitino.
Hazing is part of a fraternity culture and could very well have been in place since the inception and formation of any fraternal "brotherhood". However, the logic of hazing escapes the lump of lard on my cranium because I don't see how hitting a poor schmuck 30x times with a 2x4 or a paddle the size of JLo's arse could amount to any sort of brotherly love. Show of manliness or courage perhaps? Personally, I don't think so because being a man and showing courage does not equate to one's earthly body being pounded like a lettuce just for the sake of saying then claiming "Hey, dawg! I'm tough. Bring it!"
I've known a couple of gentlemen who have joined fraternities in their college years and did ask them about hazing a while back. If my these RAM chips in my head serves me right, I believe their answer was: "Para makaganti kami. Alangan namang kami lang ang huli? Not fair.". So, my question to them was if the act of hazing was fair to those being hurt and to the parents of the young boys in case they perish in the act. One said no but it mentioned it is (hazing) is a fact of fraternity life while I distinctly remember the other one having a more calous answer: "It's their problem. Sumali sila eh."
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August 30th, 2007 10:24 AM #2
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Doc holds key to UP stude’s death
August 30, 2007
Updated 01:48:59 (Mla time)
Jeannette Andrade
Inquirer
MANILA, Philippines – The police are looking for Dr. Francisco Cruz, the man who took Chris Anthony Mendez, a suspected hazing victim and graduating student of the University of the Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City, to the Veterans Memorial Medical Center at dawn Monday where he was declared dead on arrival.
Supt. Oscar Palisoc, Quezon City Police District Station 9 commander, told the Inquirer yesterday that they have been trying since Tuesday to reach Cruz after he was identified by a hospital security guard as the one who took Mendez to the VMMC.
“Our police investigators at the Criminal Investigation and Detection Unit are looking for him because he is the key to helping us find out what happened to the UP student,” Palisoc said.
According to the police, Cruz is a doctor at the VMMC. But he has not reported for work since the incident and has not responded to calls made to his cellular phone either, they added.
Mendez, 20, a public administration student who was appointed just last week to represent his college—the National College of Public Administration and Governance—in the UP Student Council was brought to the hospital at 1:08 a.m. Monday by Cruz and several other people.
The victim bore bruises all over his body, especially on the back of his arms and thighs. Unresponsive and pale, he was declared dead on arrival by an attending doctor minutes later.
From the hospital, Mendez’s body was taken to the St. Peter’s Memorial Chapels on Quezon Avenue where his mother proceeded from Tiaong, Quezon after she received a phone call about her son from someone who said she was her son’s landlady.
A police investigator told the Inquirer that they have already identified a student who is suspected of having recruited Mendez into the UP Sigma Rho fraternity.
The source, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to talk to media about the case, said that they would invite Ariel Paolo Ante, the NCPAG student council chair, for questioning.
Ante, the source said, reportedly asked Mendez’s friends to wish him good luck “for the initiation” which was to take place over the weekend. Mendez was a member of the NCPAG student council.
UP officials and students have refused to identify the fraternity Mendez allegedly joined before his death.
In a statement, UP Chancellor Sergio Cao extended the university’s condolences to the victim’s family. “We sternly urge the officers, members and alumni of the concerned fraternity to extend their full support and cooperation to the University and the authorities to swiftly bring this case to its just and proper resolution,” he said.
According to the security guard on duty at the hospital at the time Mendez was brought to the VMMC, Cruz was on board a white Toyota Innova (ZXB 393) while his companions were on board two vehicles: an Isuzu Trooper (WGL 515) and a Nissan Frontier (XAS 548).
A check with the Land Transportation Office showed that the Trooper is registered to Beda G. Fajardo, of Cubao, Quezon City while the Frontier is in the name of the Babybon Export Inc. in Muntinlupa City. The pick-up was listed as being used by a certain B.L. Santos.
A member of the UP community who asked not to be identified confirmed the information from the LTO and said that the vehicles were being used by two UP students with the same surnames as the vehicles’ registered owners.
The source added that at around 3 a.m. Monday, one of Mendez’s classmates received a phone call from an unidentified caller who was using the victim’s cellular phone. According to the caller, Mendez’s body was at St. Peter’s. Mendez did not have his cellular phone, automated teller machine cards and personal belongings when he was brought to the hospital.
UP Student Council president Shahana Abdulwahid said the entire student body and the council strongly condemn what happened to Mendez.
“Until the organization that we believe is involved in this breaks its silence, our speculation that the group had something to do with the death will not be dispelled,” Abdulwahid said.
She added that they have been trying to talk to the officers of the fraternity to no avail. The Inquirer also tried to reach the Fajardo home and that of J Castro, Sigma Rho Council of Elders president, for comment, but was told that the parties were not home.
NCPAG Dean Alex Brillantes, meanwhile, said he would meet with members of the UP Student Council and the student body to urge those who knew what happened to Mendez to come forward. “We want to find out how Chris died. The entire UP community wants to find out and we are supporting any investigation of his death,” he told the Inquirer.
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August 30th, 2007 10:37 AM #3
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August 30th, 2007 11:21 AM #4
in response to the question, yes.. usong-uso pa din ang hazing sa frats.
some frats have doctors at hand pagdating sa hazing. and in this one frat, I particularly remember that they adhered to this no open wound policy. kaya ayun, puro pasa na lang ang abot ng mga neophyte. (CLUE: the death caused by hazing from this frat was one of the first that generated a wild media buzz.)
as for the sigma rho hazing death, most likely na ginawa ang hazing sa QC area. even UP refuses to speak publicly about it. very sad.
anyway, saw some kids na nag-inuman sa 'min before. saw the hazing marks. medyo kadiri nga.
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August 30th, 2007 11:27 AM #5Way back early 2000
We Joined a rowing team consist of APO frat members
Though we were never a frat member.
In fact we actually did a lot of decision making in the group.
And we also have fun bullying new members, pretending we are one of the very high members
something like SuperUltra senior member.
Hazing sucks for me.
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August 30th, 2007 11:39 AM #6
My 2 cents.
It takes 2 to tango. I feel sorry for the kid and esp. his parents, but why in heaven's name would he want to join a frat?? Kahit nga sa PMA, hindi mawala-wala ang hazing, dyan pa sa Peyups. He knew what he was going into, and he should have backed out.
P.S. I'm not a frat member, never joined because it never appealed to me. During my 1st year sa Peyups Manila, andaming nagre-recruit sa akin, TOM, Alpha Sigma, etc. Kahit nung nag-summer din ako sa Diliman, may mga nagre-recruit pa rin, but I turned them all down. I felt then I didn't need a frat to survive, and besides the physical pain of initiation helped a lot in my decision.
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August 30th, 2007 11:52 AM #7frat hazing will never be gone...its a reality.
frat hazing was never made to kill would-be-members. accidents do happen, i just hope the culprits be responsible for the incident.
I also hope that would-be-members be responsible enough to be prepared (physically and psychologically) when entering one.
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August 30th, 2007 12:07 PM #8
It's as if those students have no confidence whatsoever in their own abilities, kaya sila sumasali ng frat. Naghahanap sila ng masasandalan, especially in Law where you can practically lose yourself in studies, only to be frustrated if you fail the bar.
I had a classmate who, as it turned out, was a fratman; I saw him participating in a rumble once in front of our college, when they were engaging fratmen from a rival group. Ang bilis pala ng mga ganung pangyayari. They swarm in, hammer the prey with blows, then they scatter, all in under a minute. He was the only one I could identify. The next day, we saw him in class, parang wala siyang binugbog the day before.
Then, upon the prodding of friends, I tried joining a frat once sa UP Diliman, a group based in the College of Engineering. Hindi naman sila pisikal sa initiation, but I found that I didn't have the time to be a neophyte. I couldn't meet the daily quota of hours that you have to spend sa tambayan nila, asking all the senior members to sign my sheets. I found it tedious (and pointless) so I backed out after a week; there were bigger things on my mind, like my thesis. Ok na sa akin yung may college org ako, one that is more appropriate for my major.
The only group that really freaked me out in UP was this religious group na sobraaaaaaang kuliiiiiiiiiiit. Lagi sila sa Sunken Garden tsaka sa Lagoon, two of my favorite haunts, nang-aambush ng mga estudyante, sabay imbita sa bible study at worship service nila. Eventually, I saw MGB's episode describing them as a cult. Naykupo.....Last edited by Bogeyman; August 30th, 2007 at 12:36 PM.
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August 30th, 2007 12:17 PM #9
Sumali din ako dati sa frat, ube ang inabot ng binti ko at sang linggong iika ika. Pagkatapos walang kwenta. Puro rambulan lang pero di ako sumasama. Kelangan mo kampihan brad mo kahit wala sa lugar.
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August 30th, 2007 12:18 PM #10
frats also tried to recruit me. pero i didnt think i should justify my existence by joining a fraternity.
Because pinoy mentality. Not surprising.
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