Floating status

[earthlyken]

Hello fellow tsikoters,

Can anyone explaint the meaning of this and what is the solution.

Dami kasi naka floating status na employee sa office namin.

Ano laban nila para makakuha ng redunduncy?

TIA

[dr. d]

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Hello fellow tsikoters,

Can anyone explaint the meaning of this and what is the solution.

Dami kasi naka floating status na employee sa office namin.

Ano laban nila para makakuha ng redunduncy?

TIA

floating status? as in, kumukuha ng suweldo kahit walang trabahong ginagawa?
or, walang sahod dahil walang posting?
and who wants to get a redundancy? a repitition?

please explain po..
what is the nature of that office of yours?

[screws]

In my still short business career, this is what I do in this situation. It saves me money and most importantly time. And also to keep my company's reputation as this is very important to me and in my field.

If I dont really need the manpower or is not expecting any position to be vacant soon, my solution is just to pay a separation fee and some token of appreciation (optional) for their service. I cannot afford to waste some time to deal with labour issues and I know I will likely lose the case and pay the employee when it goes to labour courts anyway. I dont need that.

If you are bent to wait for the employee to resign, make a position for him. Basically a position with no prospect but some employees are just happy to have a salary. You'll probably waste more resources than 1st option.

Nowadays I only fill some positions with contract staffs or outsource. Win win for me.

[chronicle]

As long as regular at hindi contractual ang tao, hindi pwede tanggalin basta basta maski na floating status sila.

Yung redundancy package is depende sa management yan.

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[JR318]

Afaik,floating status is currently handling the position but not performing his capacity to perform his job indicated therin.

In the government service mostly high ranking officials experience this because of politics.nono

Imagine regional director ka wala kang hinahawakan na region kasi d mu kasaundo lahat tongressman sa region na yun ayun nasa central office lang nakaupo ng hihintay ng 2016 election..jeje

[CVT]

Hello fellow tsikoters,

Can anyone explaint the meaning of this and what is the solution.

Dami kasi naka floating status na employee sa office namin.

Ano laban nila para makakuha ng redunduncy?

TIA

Saan ka bang industry bro? Paki-advice naman para mas tama at akma ang masasabi naming opinyon...

Generally, from what I heard from other companies (luckily,- not a single case in our company in the past up to the present)- kapag na-float ka kasi,- itinutulak ka ng management na mag-resign na lang... You've fallen out of grace..... Asar nga iyan dahil mostly office politics iyan...... And so, talo asar ang labanan....


"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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[earthlyken]

Call center industry kami sir

Sabi kasi ng HR na ung mga tao naka floating ay without pay sila habang hinahanapan ng ibang account na papasukan...not sure by law gaano katagal ang pwede nila paantayin ung tao na naka floating..

Also pano kung yung poaition na offer sayo ay hinde mo gusto like from supervisor down to taga ayos ng events ng account? Pwede moba tangihan un?

[RomeoAlpha]

Hahahah, parang kilala kita Sir mukhang kalugar ka lang namin nila sir CVT bandang alabang. Hihihi.

Anyhow, call center is like a big agency and pagnagsara or nawala account they try to find a suitable program for you, pero kung walang opening floating nga which i believe per my understanding is acceptable (except for agents position) kaya mas napaprioritize ang agent compared to TL up.

[CVT]

Call center industry kami sir

Sabi kasi ng HR na ung mga tao naka floating ay without pay sila habang hinahanapan ng ibang account na papasukan...not sure by law gaano katagal ang pwede nila paantayin ung tao na naka floating..

Also pano kung yung poaition na offer sayo ay hinde mo gusto like from supervisor down to taga ayos ng events ng account? Pwede moba tangihan un?

Not in the call center industry and so this is based on my limited experience in a different environment:

I assume that the person is an employee of the company and not a contractor....Puwedeng no work no pay kung daily paid employee. Pero, dapat puwede niyang i-charge ang no work day sa kanyang leave, hanggang sa maubos ito... In which case, the company, in the absence of any foreseeable work for the person in the near future should opt to terminate the person's service, with the corresponding separation pay.

Now the second one is tricky. I assume, that is the available activity in the company for allocation. The person may or may not accept. If the person accepts, then there should be no diminution of benefits. Maybe the company wants the person to stay and so assigns the person to that set of activities temporarily... Talk to HR....



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[111prez]

Floating status but regular employee at may bayad, vacation leave yun. Enjoy it while it lasts

Pero floating status ng regular employee at walang bayad puede magiging constructive dismissal yun



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Floating status but regular employee at may bayad, vacation leave yun. Enjoy it while it lasts

Pero floating status ng regular employee at walang bayad puede magiging constructive dismissal yun

[ninjababez]

Call center industry kami sir

Sabi kasi ng HR na ung mga tao naka floating ay without pay sila habang hinahanapan ng ibang account na papasukan...not sure by law gaano katagal ang pwede nila paantayin ung tao na naka floating..

Also pano kung yung poaition na offer sayo ay hinde mo gusto like from supervisor down to taga ayos ng events ng account? Pwede moba tangihan un?

max of 6 months. may ibang call center mautak, bago mag lapse ang 6 months pinag rereport ng isang linggo with pay ofcourse then balik floating status. maiinis ka nalang at mag-reresign.

[Yuki13]

max of 6 months. may ibang call center mautak, bago mag lapse ang 6 months pinag rereport ng isang linggo with pay ofcourse then balik floating status. maiinis ka nalang at mag-reresign.

really bro? ang kupal namang gawain yan!

so if floating status na, hanap na agad ng malilipatan

[ninjababez]

really bro? ang kupal namang gawain yan!

so if floating status na, hanap na agad ng malilipatan

di ko nga alam kung pauso lang nila na legit yung 6 months eh..
hello! kahit may ipon ka, usually pa naman pag di naman kalakihan ang sweldo more or less 3 months lang ng monthly income ang natatabi for emergencies

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really bro? ang kupal namang gawain yan!

so if floating status na, hanap na agad ng malilipatan

di ko nga alam kung pauso lang nila na legit yung 6 months eh..
hello! kahit may ipon ka, usually pa naman pag di naman kalakihan ang sweldo more or less 3 months lang ng monthly income ang natatabi for emergencies

[wowiesy]

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Not in the call center industry and so this is based on my limited experience in a different environment:

I assume that the person is an employee of the company and not a contractor....Puwedeng no work no pay kung daily paid employee. Pero, dapat puwede niyang i-charge ang no work day sa kanyang leave, hanggang sa maubos ito... In which case, the company, in the absence of any foreseeable work for the person in the near future should opt to terminate the person's service, with the corresponding separation pay.

Now the second one is tricky. I assume, that is the available activity in the company for allocation. The person may or may not accept. If the person accepts, then there should be no diminution of benefits. Maybe the company wants the person to stay and so assigns the person to that set of activities temporarily... Talk to HR....



"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

25.8K:shazam:

Floating status but regular employee at may bayad, vacation leave yun. Enjoy it while it lasts

Pero floating status ng regular employee at walang bayad puede magiging constructive dismissal yun



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Floating status but regular employee at may bayad, vacation leave yun. Enjoy it while it lasts

Pero floating status ng regular employee at walang bayad puede magiging constructive dismissal yun

max of 6 months. may ibang call center mautak, bago mag lapse ang 6 months pinag rereport ng isang linggo with pay ofcourse then balik floating status. maiinis ka nalang at mag-reresign.

tama ang mga points nila:

1. floating status - sa mga agency ( which call centers are similar to - where the presence of a client is essential to give you work ) management can technically put you on floating status upto a max period of six months... I dont suppose any leave package whether sickness or vacation can cover that.. so ganyan talaga... kung lumagbas ng 6 months ang option ng company ay papadukin ka uli regardless kung nay client o wala... o magbayad na ng separation pay... kung di ginawa ng company yan.. dun pa lang magiging malinaw ang kaso laban sa company..



2. in between that time... yung legal options ng tao sa case na to will also depend on how transparent management is and if it works based on good faith... kung ako HR best na gagawin ko ilatag ko yan thru a memo.. mahaba haba. pero at least transparent... altho kahit transparent nasa arbiter pa rin kung sakali yung appreciation nyan...kung ako ying tao at wala man lang communication ang anagement dito.. ay talaga magkaso agad ako... habang malaki pa chance ko na palabasin na nagpapalusot lang management...

3. sa part ng tao... gutom ang aabutin kung walang kasiguruhan yung work.. so di mo rin masisi.. balikan mo yung contract na pinirmahan mo... is it sa company talaga? or nakatali nga sa clients? .. sa kabilang banda.. yan ang legal framework e ... so may control ka din kung iaasa mo yng insecurity ng 6 months wait vs resign and find another job... kung sigurista... wag muna mag resign.m floating e... while applying elsewhere.. pag natanggap agad.. tsaka magresignmm at least sigurado.. pero you also have to respect kung may binding contracts like training or something with the former company...

4. option din yung ilipat sya but possible di nya gusto work... pero pwede na rin yun as a temporary arrangement.. at least kumikita... kungvayaw mo talaga... you have time to find other work...


good luck sa kasamahan mo...

[_Cathy_]

kumukuha ng suweldo kahit walang trabahong ginagawa?

This happened to me for more or less 3 months when I was a new hire I was just given whatever non critical tasks from my colleagues and I had no accountability for the output. I was basically functioning as intern on an employee's salary

[_Qwerty_]

sa BPO.. walang sweldo yan.. maximum of 6 months.. pano ka mabubuhay nang 6 months lalo na kung may pamilya ka?? may mga anak na nag aaral?? tatagal ka ba nang 6 months? after 6 months the company should reinstate you or retrenched you.. kaya lang hindi na umaabot sa ganon kasi nga naghahanap nang ibang work yung nalalagay sa floating status.. so in the end nakakaligtas yung company sa pagbayad nang retrenchement..

[sientobente]

max of 6 months. may ibang call center mautak, bago mag lapse ang 6 months pinag rereport ng isang linggo with pay ofcourse then balik floating status. maiinis ka nalang at mag-reresign.

Hindi ba constructive dismissal din lalabas yan? Coz parang hinihintay mo lang bumitiw yung empleyado mo to avoid paying a separation pay?

[1D4LV]

sa BPO.. walang sweldo yan.. maximum of 6 months.. pano ka mabubuhay nang 6 months lalo na kung may pamilya ka?? may mga anak na nag aaral?? tatagal ka ba nang 6 months? after 6 months the company should reinstate you or retrenched you.. kaya lang hindi na umaabot sa ganon kasi nga naghahanap nang ibang work yung nalalagay sa floating status.. so in the end nakakaligtas yung company sa pagbayad nang retrenchement..

sa accenture, they call it "bench". you get training and receive full pay while in bench.

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sa BPO.. walang sweldo yan.. maximum of 6 months.. pano ka mabubuhay nang 6 months lalo na kung may pamilya ka?? may mga anak na nag aaral?? tatagal ka ba nang 6 months? after 6 months the company should reinstate you or retrenched you.. kaya lang hindi na umaabot sa ganon kasi nga naghahanap nang ibang work yung nalalagay sa floating status.. so in the end nakakaligtas yung company sa pagbayad nang retrenchement..

sa accenture, they call it "bench". you get training and receive full pay while in bench.

[CVT]

Hindi ba constructive dismissal din lalabas yan? Coz parang hinihintay mo lang bumitiw yung empleyado mo to avoid paying a separation pay?

That is how it looks to me, bro....

A sister of one of our employees is currently working in a reputable BPO company, as a staff....

I was irritably surprised with the way they "concocted their benefits/package"... Harang- at least for that position.... I would never think of 'brewing' it that way.. Pero, walang kaso ang company nila,- so I assume lusot sila sa batas..... Oh well....


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[111prez]

Sa mga kumpanya, yung pa 6 months or less tapos tigil tapos balik ulit ng 6 months or less ay lumang tugtugin.

Labag yan sa Labor Code.

Kung agency man yan, regular na empleyado na dapat yan sa agency. Dapat lehitimo ang agency o cooperative.