Enough with Jordan... New Comparo...

[theveed]

More direct, more debatable...

Kobe or LeBron at this point of their careers...

No crystal ball speculation about future career advancement...

Just facts, stats, and intangibles...

I'd go with LBJ... even if he's at the same age as Kobe.

[voltes_V]

They played with each other yesterday. Ganda sana ng laban, na ankle sprain nga lang si kobey. Lebron seems to be more mature for his age as compared to kobey when he first started. And magaling din si LJ sa teamwork, hindi katulad ni kobey na swapang noong mga rookie days niya. For me my money goes to LJ.

[empy]

my opinion:

scoring - even
shooting - kobe
rebounding - even
passing - james
defense - kobe
championship experience - kobe
killer instinct - kobe
makes his teammates better - james
potential - james

from where i stand, they're almost dead even, except i would rather build a team around james because he can only improve as he grows older, he has a better attitude towards the game and most importantly, he makes his teammates better.

[CLAVEL3699]

my opinion:

scoring - even
shooting - kobe
rebounding - even
passing - james
defense - kobe
championship experience - kobe
killer instinct - kobe
makes his teammates better - james
potential - james

from where i stand, they're almost dead even, except i would rather build a team around james because he can only improve as he grows older, he has a better attitude towards the game and most importantly, he makes his teammates better.

Agrreeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[baiskee]

bat naman ata laging na kukumpara si kobe? pwede naman dr. j and lebron...hehe

ser theveed, init ata dugo mo kay kobe ah...

ngayon kaya pala...ang kalbo, galit sa kapwa kalbo.... nice avatar ser veed. ;)

[kimpOy]

ok nga ang kinocompare it means bench mark ka of sometime great.
i'll go for lebron, mas malawak ang scope ng game niya,

baiskee, wag kang mag alala, after 1 or 2 years years free agent na si lebron, malay mo naka purple and gold na siya. he..he

[ssaloon]

theveed, nabasa mo yung article sa cnnsi.com noh?

[kimpOy]

pero magkaiba ang laro ni lebron at ni Kobe.
maski si MJ at si lebron.

most identical to mj is kobe talaga.

Lebron is like DR.J/MJ & Magic combine

[empy]

lebron to me is more like a young kobe with better shooting and magic johnson's court vision/playmaking ability. scary to think of what he will be when he develops...baka mj + magic hybrid ang lumabas

free agent na si lebron, malay mo naka purple and gold na siya. he..he

sana nga, in fantasy life as well as real life

[ssaloon]

theveed, nabasa mo yung article sa cnnsi.com noh?

i'm referring to this article

The Top Five
LeBron James quickly develops into Kobe Bryant's chief rival
Posted: Thursday January 13, 2005 12:56PM; Updated: Thursday January 13, 2005 10:34PM

Thursday night in Los Angeles, Kobe Bryant gets a chance to redeem himself -- if that's the correct term -- in a marquee matchup. This time it isn't against a mortal enemy, as it was on Christmas Day when Shaquille O'Neal came to town and the Miami center escaped with a 104-102 win. It's against Cleveland's LeBron James, who, down the road, will no doubt turn out to be much more of a basketball rival than O'Neal, against whom most of Bryant's future battles will be verbal and psychological.

At first blush, might seem a bit premature to declare them equals in any way, shape or form: Bryant has three championship rings, and so far, James only has some nice high school hardware. But you know and I know that the quantum leap James' game has taken this season has lifted him, at age 20, among the NBA's elite, where Bryant has resided the last several seasons.

Consider this: Only two players in the last 25 years have averaged more than 25 points, seven rebounds and seven assists in a single season. Their names are Larry Bird (in 1986-87) and Michael Jordan (in '88-89). Both Bryant and James are close to those numbers right now. As primary ball-handlers, something that San Antonio's Tim Duncan and Minnesota's Kevin Garnett are not, Bryant and James stand alone in terms of versatility.

So for this week's five-pack, let's take a look at how Kobe and 'Bronnie compare in five areas.

Scoring

Bryant is the more prolific scorer, averaging more than four more points per game more than James. But he also takes more shots and is averaging almost 10 points fewer than James in field-goal percentage. That is a significant difference, even though Bryant insisted, after his 42 points fell short in that Christmas Day game, that "my teammates actually approached me and asked me to be more offensive-minded." If he gets any more offensive-minded he's going to need treatment for bursitis, being second only to Allen Iverson in field goals attempted.

But, look, if I need one guy to buy me some nylon, it's still Bryant. At this point he's more capable of exploding on any given night than James.

All-around offense

The stats won't help you much; both of them do everything. "He has to rebound, he has to pass and he has to score," said Orlando guard Steve Francis of Bryant. "Hopefully his body will last throughout the season." The same can be said of James.

But despite Bryant's edge as a scorer, I see James as a better all-around offensive player. He commits considerably fewer turnovers than Bryant (3.28 per game compared to Kobe's 4.66) and, if you want to argue that Bryant has his hands on the ball more often, then also consider that James gets more assists per game.

Defense

In each of his last five seasons, Bryant has been named either first- or second-team all-league on defense. With his cobra-like quickness, he has been compared, legitimately, to Michael Jordan.

But James, in just his second season, has already become one of the canniest passing-lane readers in the NBA, accounting for his 2.34 steals per game (Bryant's average is 1.34). Cleveland coach Paul Silas has already compared James to four great thieves of the past -- Jordan, Scottie Pippen, John Stockton and Maurice Cheeks. "And once he gets it," says Silas, "you can cancel Christmas because he's going to dunk the basketball."

Further, at 6-foot-8 and a rock-solid 240 pounds, James can bang with power forwards, which Bryant cannot do.

Still, if Bryant is given the challenge of stopping someone -- point guard, shooting guard or small forward -- he'll do it better than anyone since Jordan.

Big-game play

Bryant has been in about, oh, 50 stomach-roiling showdowns in his nine NBA seasons -- James has yet to play past April -- but some have hinted that Kobe's game-winning mystique has evaporated of late. Even before Bryant's last-second miss against the Heat on Christmas, he had missed three other buzzer-beaters that would've either won a game, sent one into overtime or given the Lakers a more comfortable margin of victory. Does he need Shaq to hit big shots?

In a word, no. Shaq never did draw much attention in those climactic situations because of the fact that he would've been fouled and sent to the free-throw line, the place where Superman most keenly feels the effects of Kryptonite. A player's ability to win games is directly related to his willingness to take big shots, and, in this respect, Bryant's cojones are as large as anyone's since Jordan.

James, to this point, has been content to find the open man in clutch situations, as he did on Tuesday night against the Charlotte Bobcats when, with the score tied and time running out, he passed up the chance to go one-on-one and zipped a crosscourt pass to a wide-open Jeff McInnis. (McInnis missed but the Cavs won in overtime anyway.) His time will surely come, but for now Bryant still carries a longer history of clutch performances. Remember that the Lakers would've been swept by the Pistons in the '04 Finals if not for Kobe's buzzer-beater.

Intangibles/Future

This seems like a setup slam-dunk, right? Time for some more Kobe-bashing? But keep in mind that Bryant's teammates have never -- repeat, never -- said they wouldn't want to go to war with this guy. Then, too, there's plenty of time for LeBron to make some Kobe-esque missteps, either on or off the court,

But the way James has adjusted to the pressure and worked on his game -- Garnett calls him "The Gift" because of how well he's "handled everything thrown at him" -- indicates that he'll be OK. He works hard, his teammates love him and, unlike Bryant, he doesn't act as if he's the sun around which all else revolves. On the court he is third in the league in a category known as "efficiency," determined by a complicated formula that adds up positive stats and subtracts things like turnovers. (Bryant is ninth.) Is there anyone, right now, who, looking at the big picture, wouldn't take James over Bryant?

[empy]

Is there anyone, right now, who, looking at the big picture, wouldn't take James over Bryant?

i would take bryant....




























if i wanted to go pick up chicks in colorado

[ILuvDetailing]

I see Lebron as more of an orchestrator, a next generation Magic Johnson with an explosive athletic ability, I can't compare Lebron with Jordan or Kobe cuz their games are different, Jordan is more of a scorer than a playmaker same with Kobe while James is more of a playmaker with insane hops.

In the long term, James might become the better player than Kobe but not by much, he just needs a better supporting cast in the comming years to reach the summit.

[mikaztro]

KOBE VS. JAMES

Scoring - Edge: Bryant. Hes got more repertoire of shots and experience. Also, license to shoot and not pass.
All-around defense- Edge: James. He is 2nd in the steals department and is much taller and bigger than Bryant.
Big game play - Edge: Bryant. Because he had more experience and have been to many situations before.
Field Goal Percentage - Edge: James. As you can see, Bryant is struggling with his FG % and doesnt pick the right shots.
Rebounding - Edge: James. James is taller and heftier than Bryant. james is known as a rebounding deamon in High School.
Passing - Edge: James. He looks to assist first before shooting. he usually do a 3 to 4 pass before taking a shot.
Championship experience - Edge: Kobe. No contest between the two as it is obvious. Kobe is a veteran unlike James whos been in the League for only a year and a half.
Killer instinct - Edge: Kobe. He is the heir to the throne to MJ in terms of Big time play and killer's instinct. Usually, when the game is on the line, Kobe takes over the game just like his Airness.
Making his teammates better - Edge: James. Because of his passing skills. A clone of Magic Johnson.
Potential - Edge: James. Ofcourse! He is younger by 6 years and has the potential to develope more. This thing is scary for most of the NBA players and teams.
Dunking ability - Edge: Even. James can do what Kobe can. He has the ability to glide in the air just like Dr.J though Kobe reminds me more of Michael Jordan.Power to James while grace is to Kobe.
Efficiency as a player - Edge: James. James leads over Kobe in the Rebounding, Assist, Steals, FG%, 3P FG% while Kobe leads in the Turnover, Minutes played, Scoring and FG attempts.

[empy]

All-around defense- Edge: James. He is 2nd in the steals department and is much taller and bigger than Bryant.

i agree with everything you said except for this. kobe made the all-nba defensive team two times (1st team and 2nd team), so he deserves the benefit of the doubt. james can steal the ball but i don't remember seeing him shut a player down like kobe can shut down the 1, 2 or 3 spots. this is only his second season though, so let's see where he in 2-3 years.

[kimpOy]

agree about what m54 said,
kobe shut down milawaukee big gun this year twice.

but hey Lebron 2 pa lang tayo, and he's playing with rookies salary pa.

[artpogi]

I'm no Kobe fan, but right now my money is on Kobe.

But like what others say, I also like James' attitude towards the game, for his age and experience, he's quite mature.

One on One my money is on Kobe.

[van_wilder]

lebron...

[mikaztro]

KOBE VS. LEBRON
Stats as of Jan 15, 2005

HEAD TO HEAD
PPG: 27.5 vs. 24.5
RPG: 6.3 vs. 7.1
APG: 6.6 vs. 7.2
SPG: 1.35 vs. 2.29
BPG: 1.00 vs. .90
FG%: .406 vs. .492
3P FG%: .332 vs. .348
FT%: .799 vs. .755
MPG: 42.0 vs. 40.9

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AGE: 26 vs. 20
HEIGHT: 6'-6" vs. 6'-8"
WEIGHT: 220lbs vs. 240lbs.
YRS EXPERIENCE: 9yrs vs. 2yrs
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2nd YEAR CARRER AVERAGES:
PPG: 15.4 vs. 24.5
RPG: 3.1 vs. 7.1
APG: 2.5 vs. 7.2
SPG: .94 vs. 2.29
BPG: .51 vs. .90
FG%: .428 vs. .492
3P FG%: .341 vs. .348
FT%: .794 vs. .755
MPG: 26 vs. 40.9
================
ROOKIE YEAR AVERAGES:
PPG: 7.6 vs. 20.9
RPG: 1.9 vs. 5.5
APG: 1.3 vs. 5.9
SPG: 0.69 vs. 1.65
BPG: .32 vs. .73
FG%: .417 vs. .417
3P FG%: .375 vs. .290
FT%: .819 vs. .754
MPG: 15.5 vs. 39.5
================

[baiskee]

its hard to compare them again as i said...totally different scenario.

kobe as a rookie - di sya nabibigyan ng playing time because he was the backup of eddie jones compare to james, pag pasok...starter agad, no. 1 option pa sa opensa.

pag pasok ni kobe sa lakers...there was shaq, van exel, jones...eto na yung gumagawa nung time na yun kaya di sya nabibigyan masyado ng break.

definitely...lebron got the advantage here coz cleveland built the team around him.

parang ngayon pa lang nararamdaman ni kobe yung naramdaman ni lebron last year nung rookie sya.

[baiskee]

2nd YEAR CARRER AVERAGES:
PPG: 15.4 vs. 24.5
RPG: 3.1 vs. 7.1
APG: 2.5 vs. 7.2
SPG: .94 vs. 2.29
BPG: .51 vs. .90
FG%: .428 vs. .492
3P FG%: .341 vs. .348
FT%: .794 vs. .755
MPG: 26 vs. 40.9
================
ROOKIE YEAR AVERAGES:
PPG: 7.6 vs. 20.9
RPG: 1.9 vs. 5.5
APG: 1.3 vs. 5.9
SPG: 0.69 vs. 1.65
BPG: .32 vs. .73
FG%: .417 vs. .417
3P FG%: .375 vs. .290
FT%: .819 vs. .754
MPG: 15.5 vs. 39.5
================

check their MPG....obviously, this was a big factor...damay lahat sa stats yan.

kung lagi kang babad at naglalaro ka in average of 39.5 at ikaw pa no.1 option....sigurado mabilis yung adjustment and improvement mo compare to 15.5 MPG di ba?