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August 6th, 2006 10:39 PM #1
Guys, just want your advice on this, and if you could also shed some legal advice, please do, I would gladly appreciate it.
Well, yesterday a client requested for a truckload of sand for her hardware shop. Now, we could've easily agreed but we had a bad experience with her, here's what:
It was a payroll day for our drivers (Saturday) and I really assured myself that all the payrolls to be given are all correct. Now, normally what we do is, if we have a COD (Cash-on-Delivery) order, we deduct the COD to the money which will be given to the driver on that day kasi sila na kukuha pagkadeliver.
Now here's the deal, that customer ordered on a Saturday. Knowing that she's COD, I deducted the amount of money to the payroll. Night came and the truck got to the dump site. What happened is the driver dammed his load as soon as he got there kasi nasindak sya ng patrol na nakabuntot sa kanya. The customer got furious because gusto nya makita muna nila ung karga kung abot ba sa sidings ng truck, and that reason, she refused to pay us.
Of course, we tried to negotiate with her, I called her,we apologized and I already offered her to remove 500 from her payment (NOTE: ung 500 po na un, yun lang po talaga puhunan namin per delivery dahil todo baba po talaga ng singil namin), but she still insisted she won't pay at all. She said our driver did this twice already (wherein we received once her complaint, told the driver, but unfortunately dahil nasindak, ginawa na naman) and it's about time she teaches our driver a lesson (and in effect teaching myself also in the process) and then she dropped the call.
So, knowing I couldn't negotiate more through phone, I then personally went to the site and talked to our driver. I asked him ba't nga dinam agad (reason stated above), he gave his side and told me na sabi nung asawa nung customer, bawasan na lang daw ng 100 ung bayad. Tinanong ko kung ba't di pa nya tinanggap, and the driver told me that he would've agreed BUT when he counted the money, hindi lang 100 ang binawas, 1000! So, he told the husband pero hinirit sa kanya eh "O akin na (grabs the money), buti nga binayaran ko pa eh?! Ngayon kung ayaw niyo e di wag!" And ung mag-asawa sinaraduhan na raw sila pagkatapos.
Luckily, pagkalingon ko sa pintuan ng mag-asawa, nandun sila. So I tried to "personally" negotiate na. They kept insisting the fact na dalawang beses na nga ginawa sa kanila, so I said okay and okay and okay, I'll tell the driver but I'm hoping that really, kahit bawasan na nila ung bayad ng kahit 500 pero hangga't maaari wag lang sana lalampas pero ayaw talaga. Then it came to the point na sinabihan na kaming mandurugas, even though they know themselves na 13 cubic lang talaga lagi load namin (due to NLEX law na 13T per axle lang) na pwede naman nilang makuha sa dami ng elf na magdedeliver sa mga customers nila (normally 6 kung 13 cubic) pero ayaw pa rin talaga magbayad. Kesyo posible daw na ung driver babawasan na ung karga bago muna idam sa kanila para kumita pa lalo (na gawain daw nila nun), etc. etc...
And in the end, I just told them na "Bosing sweldo po kasi ng mga driver ito at wala ng natira samin ngaung linggo dahil matumal din..." tutuloy ko pa sana pero hiniritan ako ng babae "So what?!", kaya napatigil na ako. Being fully aware na I'm up against an old one-sided engineer and his crab mentalistic wife, sabi ko na lang, "Ok po, sige po kung yan na po talaga desisyon nyo eh di ko na po kayo kukulitin, pasensya na po kayo sa abala at magandang gabi po."
And I together with the drivers left the site. A week have passed and naubos na yung nadeliver namin. Within the week, hindi talaga nagbayad yung customer na yun. But when I texted her asking kung ilang elf ang nakapagdeliver ng buhangin, she said 6. So, there was really no point of arguing na dinaya namin ung karga dahil 6 elfs is nearly equivalent to 13 cubic plus yung sahod ng driver is too high to the fact na pagsisisihan nya talaga pag may ginawa siyang anomalya (wherein wala talagang anomalyang nagagawa ang mga tao dahil lahat ng gastos at mismong conversations nila eh naka-monitor). Instead of starting another argument, we just let the thing go regardless of how big a loss that one single delivery would be.
After a while she sent an SMS asking for delivery na naman. I said hindi kami makakadeliver, and she complained "Hoy kasalanan niyo kung bakit hindi ko binayaran yung dineliver niyo noon at kung ayaw niyo akong dalhan eh pwede namin kayong sampahan ng kaso dahil hindi kayo pwedeng mamili ng customer! Kami ang pumipili sa inyo at hindi kabaliktaran!". I just kept quiet on the line and then humirit uli siya, "Ano akala mo nagbibiro ako? Idedemanda ko talaga kayo! Pag di nyo ako dalhan sa miyerkules maghanda kayo, sa korte tayo magtutuos!." And she dropped the line. End of conversation.
Pasensya na po mga bossing kung napahaba ng husto itong post ko. Just really need your advices. Highly appreciated po ang lahat ng maipapayo nyo. Maraming salamat po at magandang gabi!
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August 6th, 2006 10:46 PM #2
you have a right to sell to a customer or not. if the customer has already had a bad record, e.g. bouncing checks, non-paying, etc, you can refuse to sell.
or if you want to sugar coat it a bit, taasan mo nalang ng presyo, at least di niya sasabihin na ayaw mo magbenta or di mo inalukan. ganon ginagawa ko eh :bwahaha:
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August 6th, 2006 10:49 PM #3
sa company ng employer ng mom ko(corrugated boxes), namimili sila (ex. yung matagal at hindi nagbabayad reject yun, of course)...kase shempre proprotektahan mo rin yung interest ng company mo and yung company mo mismo.
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August 6th, 2006 10:58 PM #4
yep, you have a right to sell to a customer. ok yung suggestion ni ssaloon.
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August 6th, 2006 11:01 PM #5
yup, tagain mo sa presyo para mainis. hehehehe.
ano ikakaso nila sa inyo? hindi naman kayo hospital!
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August 6th, 2006 11:02 PM #6
*ssaloon
Thanks sir. I'd try that line tomorrow. Sana gumana na. Wag lang sana palitan ung demanda nya na "abusive pricing"
*basti08
It's of my priority to protect our company, I have refused those that pay too long, those that pay bouncing checks, but this is the first experience in this business that the customer would take control over the supplier by attempting to demand us.
Sigh, update ko po kayo mga chief bukas kung gagana ung payo ni Sir ssaloon. Kung may mapapayo pa po kayo, ipost nyo lang po. I'd try to read it ASAP. Salamat po talaga mga bosing.
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August 6th, 2006 11:05 PM #8
*konde
Marami po kasing connections itong mag-asawang ito sa mga matataas na officials and may mga relatives din silang mga abogado. Kaya no clue talaga ako kung ano pwedeng ikaso samen ng mga ito. Or baka mamaya kung ano-ano pa.
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August 6th, 2006 11:05 PM #9
pag abusive pricing, banatan mo ng "sir medyo mataas ho cost namin kaya mataas din pricing namin ngayon eh..."
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August 6th, 2006 11:07 PM #10
oo nga, tagain mo sa terms na sigurado ayaw nila... magpa T.O ka ng husto!
there's this youtube article, about a 2000s altis, that had a high rpm on cold start (2000+ daw),...
high idle RPM at engine start