Does school really matter?

[dr. d]

i remember nung time ng sister ko sa diliman, may isang parking lot doon na tambayan ng isang frat and parang car show every time susunduin namin kapatid ko.

... sa harap nang AS. as how we used to call it.
back when JD and MD red buses were still the way to commute.

[Verbl Kint]

... sa harap nang AS. as how we used to call it.
back when JD and MD red buses were still the way to commute.

I believe it's still called AS but outsiders know it as Palma Hall, of course. I wonder if the IKOT TOKI jeeps are still around.

[_Cathy_]

hindi naman, po.
marami ring magaan lang ang kaya na naka enrol doon. take it from me. "i know."
hindi lang sila nagpapa-halata sa publiko.

remember some years ago?
the valedictorian was the son of a lavander. and his classmates either had no inkling, or knew but did not care.

one issue with society,
is that usually, only the noisy ones get noticed.

pero doc, when were you in UP? I think the AB population in UP keeps increasing over time. I have friends who went to UP in the 90s to early 2000s puro mga may kaya. Yung mga taga province bibilhan condo at kotse for use here in Manila.

A significant population are of upper middle to upper class stock. I think the reason why hindi kasama sa meme eh they would tend to blend in to avoid being mocked (mga konyo) or at least tone down.

Yes, I agree

Personally, I really think there should be an income prerequisite for you to get a full scholarship to a state university. Full scholarships should only be given to the CDE socio-economic groups. The AB crowd should pay their own way, or at least, pay for most of it.

My cousin went to UP in the early 90s and she was already commenting about how there are so many rich students in UP and that the AB should just go to other schools to give chance to those without money to get into a good/top school. What's funny is, sa mother's side ko sila pinakamayaman! But then again, she's taking med kaya UP talaga.

[Yatta]

pero doc, when were you in UP? I think the AB population in UP keeps increasing over time. I have friends who went to UP in the 90s to early 2000s puro mga may kaya. Yung mga taga province bibilhan condo at kotse for use here in Manila.



Yes, I agree



My cousin went to UP in the early 90s and she was already commenting about how there are so many rich students in UP and that the AB should just go to other schools to give chance to those without money to get into a good/top school. What's funny is, sa mother's side ko sila pinakamayaman! But then again, she's taking med kaya UP talaga.

Well, thats not how UP was conceived by the Americans (yup kasalanan ng mga Kano). Its supposed to take in the best the country has regardless of income, creed or religion. Unfortunately nga some are more prepared than others...

[Verbl Kint]

Well, thats not how UP was conceived by the Americans (yup kasalanan ng mga Kano). Its supposed to take in the best the country has regardless of income, creed or religion. Unfortunately nga some are more prepared than others...

I'm perfectly fine with rich kids going to state universities, so long as they pay their own way. Scholarships should only be just for students who really need it.

[_Cathy_]

Don't they ask for the ITR of the parents of all students?

[dr. d]

admission to UP is still largely by merit, i.e., grades and entrance exam.
unfortunately, it is the more affluent who can afford to enrol in high-quality high schools, thus affording them better chance at garnering higher entrance exam grade.
nung panahon ng 'merika kasi, our public school system is good or better, than the private schools.
some say that in the philippines, those who "have issues" are the ones who enrol in private schools, back then.

in some UPs, (all UPs?), family income is considered. thus, the richer ones pay higher, while the poorer ones pay less.

[_Cathy_]

My brother passed UPd but my parents didn't allow him to go to UPd. That really pissed my brother off hehe

I wonder, sa generation ngayon, do parents still control the education of their children? Kuya ko grade school pa lang alam na ng family saan siya mag MBA Kami mga babae hindi masyado pinapakialamanan kasi sa family namin mas valued ang lalaki

[Yatta]

Don't they ask for the ITR of the parents of all students?

Even back then no, not unless you are applying for scholarship or financial assistance.

admission to UP is still largely by merit, i.e., grades and entrance exam.
unfortunately, it is the more affluent who can afford to enrol in high-quality high schools, thus affording them better chance at garnering higher entrance exam grade.
nung panahon ng 'merika kasi, our public school system is good or better, than the private schools.
some say that in the philippines, those who "have issues" are the ones who enrol in private schools, back then.

in some UPs, (all UPs?), family income is considered. thus, the richer ones pay higher, while the poorer ones pay less.

Because of the law on free college tuition (RA 10931 of 2017), state colleges and universities are now free of tuition (for the duration of the baccalaureate course, 4-5 years if I'm not mistaken, after that you start paying para hindi naman maabuso). Before this one had to pay up or apply for assistance.

My brother passed UPd but my parents didn't allow him to go to UPd. That really pissed my brother off hehe

I wonder, sa generation ngayon, do parents still control the education of their children? Kuya ko grade school pa lang alam na ng family saan siya mag MBA Kami mga babae hindi masyado pinapakialamanan kasi sa family namin mas valued ang lalaki

Obviously since even with free tuition there are still bills to pay (allowances, dorm/house fees, other expenses). So even if UP is free there are still those who withdraw lalo kapag taga-probinsiya and yung program is at a specific campus only.

[dr. d]

Because of the law on free college tuition (RA 10931 of 2017), state colleges and universities are now free of tuition (for the duration of the baccalaureate course, 4-5 years if I'm not mistaken, after that you start paying para hindi naman maabuso). Before this one had to pay up or apply for assistance.

yup. bachelors' degrees are now tuition-free.
but medicine is considered postgraduate. our students pay graduated fees, based on parents' ITR.