Does school really matter?

[bugsmobile]

Years ago, La Salle ranked higher than Ateneo. I watched a UAAP game where they had a banner showing their ranking in green & Ateneo”s lower ranking in blue hehe.

Was able to attend before a dinner with a few alumni with then Ateneo president Father Jett. An alumni asked why La Salle was ranked higher & how to get ahead. He said that it based on papers published iirc. Since La Salle has not campuses, the get to publish more. So I guess Ateneo found a way to do more.

To be honest, these rankings feel like a battle for ratings. Like Eat Bulacan & Eat hehe. Just a ploy to get more students.

[_Cathy_]

Years ago, La Salle ranked higher than Ateneo. I watched a UAAP game where they had a banner showing their ranking in green & Ateneo”s lower ranking in blue hehe.

Was able to attend before a dinner with a few alumni with then Ateneo president Father Jett. An alumni asked why La Salle was ranked higher & how to get ahead. He said that it based on papers published iirc. Since La Salle has not campuses, the get to publish more. So I guess Ateneo found a way to do more.

To be honest, these rankings feel like a battle for ratings. Like Eat Bulacan & Eat hehe. Just a ploy to get more students.

Pero I think most families don't care much about the ratings kasi even before their children are born they know where they'd be sending them to school already

[Ry_Tower]

^ Agree, halos lahat naman ng nanggaling sa big 4 gusto din sa big 4 makapag-aral anak, siyempre priority din yung alma mater. It's a universal fact naman.

but based on other ranking institutions...?

when evaluating rankings, one is advised to look up the criteria used in the ranking.
they may explain the discrepancies on why one school is tops in one ranking list, while another school is tops in another ranking list.

How is the ranking calculated?
Overall rank is calculated from scores for 13 different performances indicators, grouped into five categories: Teaching, Research, Research Influence, Innovation and International Outlook.

To produce the 13 indicators for each university, THE’s in-house data team analyses data that universities supply (for example, staff-to-student ratios, doctorates awarded, international students and research income), the results of a “reputation survey” sent to selected academics across the world, and information about published research papers and citations, using Elsevier’s Scopus database.

Each performance indicator (and correspondingly each of the five broader performance categories) is assigned a percentage weighting in the overall ranking score.
Teaching quality counts for 30 per cent, Research counts for 30 per cent, Research Influence counts for 30 per cent, International Outlook counts for 7.5 per cent and Innovation counts for 2.5 per cent.

You can read more about the methodology and why the performance indicators are relevant markers of world-leading universities in THE World University Rankings explained | Student

What do the five "performance breakdown" scores mean?
Teaching is a measure of the learning experience and quality at a university. It is based on the reputation among academics, and statistics about staff, students and research.

Research is a measure of both the quality and quantity of research output, based on reputation, research income and productivity.

Citations measures how influential that research is, and counts the number of times work published by academics at the university is cited in other papers.

International Outlook measures the environment and attitude with respect to international students, staff and research. It is based on international-to-domestic ratios across staff, students and research collaborations.

Innovation or Industry Income is a measure of innovation at a university, based on how much the university earns from its inventions and industrial work.

So kung titignan, hindi lang quantity yan, quality din. Yearly may twekas din yan sila siyempre para hindi makadaya ang ibang naghahabol lang ng rankings.

[dr. d]

Years ago, La Salle ranked higher than Ateneo. I watched a UAAP game where they had a banner showing their ranking in green & Ateneo”s lower ranking in blue hehe.

Was able to attend before a dinner with a few alumni with then Ateneo president Father Jett. An alumni asked why La Salle was ranked higher & how to get ahead. He said that it based on papers published iirc. Since La Salle has not campuses, the get to publish more. So I guess Ateneo found a way to do more.

To be honest, these rankings feel like a battle for ratings. Like Eat Bulacan & Eat hehe. Just a ploy to get more students.

yes, it is a ratings war.
but ratings affect enrollment, funding, and other comforts in running an institution.
some institutions of higher learning abroad, even consider ratings in their screening policy... "graduates of this and that stand a better chance at getting accepted..."

so how to improve ratings.
some criteria come to mind,
publications in "acceptable journals",
funding $$$,
faculty base qualifications (BS, MS, PhD, etc.),
perception by qualified perceptors,
others.

when a famous big university found out that they were losing to others in the ratings war because of funding issues, an issue they had very little control over,
they fought back by strongly encouraging publication.
they imposed a "publish or perish" program among the faculty.

[_Cathy_]

kahit lalake nagtatanong din ano school ng girl

kaya kami magbarkada we brag to each other taga anong school ang na-eyeball namin

di ko makalimutan ung comment ng isang friend ko "arte arte taga lyceum lang"

coz meron hierarchy yan

pag top school may karapatan maging maarte

OMG this is so weird!

I was talking to my LA friend and he said he likes that I am not maarte even if I am from name of my school
(his GFs are from Bene kasi) His impression daw of girls from my school are maganda na maarte I told him it's just a stereotype and then he said e LYCEUM? hahaha (I guess implying na it's the opposite)

I don't mean to offend any Lyceum grads here pero naalala ko yung post ni ULS na "arte arte taga Lyceum" Ano ba meron sa lyceum why they developed that reputation.

[dr. d]

OMG this is so weird!

I was talking to my LA friend and he said he likes that I am not maarte even if I am from name of my school
(his GFs are from Bene kasi) His impression daw of girls from my school are maganda na maarte I told him it's just a stereotype and then he said e LYCEUM? hahaha (I guess implying na it's the opposite)

I don't mean to offend any Lyceum grads here pero naalala ko yung post ni ULS na "arte arte taga Lyceum" Ano ba meron sa lyceum why they developed that reputation.

as an aside,
some folks might deride lyceum, for whatever reason, real or imagined,
but in truth,
lyceum is a very good school.
it is rated in the best schools list.

[Ry_Tower]

Ateneo remains top PH school in latest Times Higher Education World University Rankings

The University of Santo Tomas also places in the rankings for the first time, entering in the 1501+ bracket.

[uls]

as an aside,
some folks might deride lyceum, for whatever reason, real or imagined,
but in truth,
lyceum is a very good school.
it is rated in the best schools list.

with regard to dating...

it's less about whether the school is good or not

school functions more like a social class indicator

when you know what school a person is attending you have an idea what social class he/she belongs to

if you're open only to dating certain kinds of people (or you wanna filter out those you don't wanna date), school is a good filter

[_Cathy_]

as an aside,
some folks might deride lyceum, for whatever reason, real or imagined,
but in truth,
lyceum is a very good school.
it is rated in the best schools list.

Unfortunately doc, when it comes to social setting (?) like dating nga or family reunions, it's not the ranking that matters much. Yung Uncle ko na pinaka guapo sa angkan namin, he is Ateneo from GS to College and he's like the benchmark of a "good catch" sa family namin HAHAHA.

Anyway, re schools, the place where you had an education stays with you until death. Example lang yung Dad ni ex SO he is UP so even when he passed in his 90s, he's still known as a UP grad and during the 40th day the UP classmates were there, I forgot what they were called yung alumni or frat ba nila. All his children went to UP din, parang nagiging identity na din ang school. Even I can't escape it. I'm middle aged and yet my school still gets brought up mostly in dating or meeting new people sa gathering.

[Yatta]

Unfortunately doc, when it comes to social setting (?) like dating nga or family reunions, it's not the ranking that matters much. Yung Uncle ko na pinaka guapo sa angkan namin, he is Ateneo from GS to College and he's like the benchmark of a "good catch" sa family namin HAHAHA.

Anyway, re schools, the place where you had an education stays with you until death. Example lang yung Dad ni ex SO he is UP so even when he passed in his 90s, he's still known as a UP grad and during the 40th day the UP classmates were there, I forgot what they were called yung alumni or frat ba nila. All his children went to UP din, parang nagiging identity na din ang school. Even I can't escape it. I'm middle aged and yet my school still gets brought up mostly in dating or meeting new people sa gathering.

Thats not just a Pinoy thing, its referenced in the film "The Blind Side". And in Japan, every parent wants his kid to enter The University of Tokyo or if not at least one of the old imperial universities like Kyoto U.

[_Cathy_]

Thats not just a Pinoy thing, its referenced in the film "The Blind Side". And in Japan, every parent wants his kid to enter The University of Tokyo or if not at least one of the old imperial universities like Kyoto U.

I agree it's universal nga. Sa US kung Ivy League naman.

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[KKagalingan]

ano ba nangyayari sa government pinagtitripan ng mga hacker. Ito mga nasa congress at senado saan ba grumadweyt jan? Ilan ba updilim ateniness lasalles AIM? Bakit hinid nararamdaman yung pag ka topschool hahahah!!!!

ito mga skwelahan post ng post ng ranking eh hinid naman nararamdaman. Result matters!!!! Noong pandemic nga mas atenista mas suhpot eh.

[monty_GTV]

napulot lang somewhere...

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[Ry_Tower]

napulot lang somewhere...

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Sagot sa magaling dyan. Bakit? Kung bobotante mas madami kesa matinong tao, ano aasahan mo?

[glenn_duke]

napulot lang somewhere...

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Mga french at english tie up mga uni sa most of africa.
Pero madaming ofw sa africa, fromg welder to engineers, majority graduates sa visayas at mindanao.

[_Cathy_]

I asked my LA friend, do you think your Mom will like me? He said yes kasi disente ka (I kinda doubt I am) and both all girls school.

I did not go to the same school as his Mom but my Mom did so they probably know people in common.

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[KKagalingan]

ito tataka talaga ako sa mga congressman at senador. Ilan ba jan graduate ng topschool pero bakit hindi nila mabago yung batas pag road tragedies yung mga nagfeeling schumi tapos pag nagcrash eh bakit nagiging standard operating procedure na huhulihin yung nasa harap eh hindi naman yun may kasalanan.???? Example pag nasa likod ka nabanga mo sa harap at walang namatay so ang police report car accident lagn walang nakulong at KASALANAN NG NASA LIKOD. Pero bakit pag may namatay eh yung nasa harap makukulong pa. Haaaay buhayy saan ba grumadwyet yan mga "honorable kuno" eh year 2023 na mga tatanga-tanga pa din.

Kaya tsikoteers dont top school me dito sa pinas. Result matters. Kaninong batas yan at sino mga bumoto para maapporved yan batas at saan sila grumadweyt

[dr. d]

ito tataka talaga ako sa mga congressman at senador. Ilan ba jan graduate ng topschool pero bakit hindi nila mabago yung batas pag road tragedies yung mga nagfeeling schumi tapos pag nagcrash eh bakit nagiging standard operating procedure na huhulihin yung nasa harap eh hindi naman yun may kasalanan.???? Example pag nasa likod ka nabanga mo sa harap at walang namatay so ang police report car accident lagn walang nakulong at KASALANAN ng nasa likod. Pero bakit pag may namatay eh yung nasa harap makukulong pa. Haaaay buhayy saan ba grumadwyet yan mga "honorable kuno" eh year 2023 na mga tatatang-tanga pa din.

Kaya tsikoteers dont top school me dito sa pinas. Result matters. Kaninong batas yan at sino mga bumoto para maapporved yan batas at saan sila grumadweyt

simple lang.
"political will."
they don't teach that in school.

[Mask Rider Blac]

Our pickup truck got into an accident with a motorcycle at around 12mn. Ung motor ang bumangga. Tumba ung rider. Sabi ng pulis, kapag may tao na nasaktan sa aksidente at hindi nagkasundo ang parties, impound pareho kukunin pa susi (seriously?). Driver namin nagmaneho kasama wife at anak ko at may pasok pa kinabukasan kaya pinaareglo na lang..3am na sila natapos. Grabeng hassle. Kaya sabi ko sa driver na laging mag-ingat.

Then months later, napanuod ko sa news ung batang biglang tumawid (hindi sa pesdestrian lane) sa Aguinaldo Highway hindi na nahabol ng preno at nabangga. Ung motor sa likod bumangga naman sa kanya. Pareho niyang pinagamot ung bata at rider...parang na-gets ko na kung bakit ginawa 'to ng owner ng sasakyan. Wala man lang banggit sa news ung tungkol sa magulang ng bata o anong action ng LGU para maiwasan mga ganitong pangyayari.

[glenn_duke]

Our pickup truck got into an accident with a motorcycle at around 12mn. Ung motor ang bumangga. Tumba ung rider. Sabi ng pulis, kapag may tao na nasaktan sa aksidente at hindi nagkasundo ang parties, impound pareho kukunin pa susi (seriously?). Driver namin nagmaneho kasama wife at anak ko at may pasok pa kinabukasan kaya pinaareglo na lang..3am na sila natapos. Grabeng hassle. Kaya sabi ko sa driver na laging mag-ingat.

Then months later, napanuod ko sa news ung batang biglang tumawid (hindi sa pesdestrian lane) sa Aguinaldo Highway hindi na nahabol ng preno at nabangga. Ung motor sa likod bumangga naman sa kanya. Pareho niyang pinagamot ung bata at rider...parang na-gets ko na kung bakit ginawa 'to ng owner ng sasakyan. Wala man lang banggit sa news ung tungkol sa magulang ng bata o anong action ng LGU para maiwasan mga ganitong pangyayari.

Kaya padami ng padami mga kamoteng riders kasi alam nila sila pa ang ina areglo kahit kasalanan nila. San ba graduate yung nagpanukala ng batas nayan. Sigurado hindi sa recto, kasi tanga.