Does school really matter?

[_Cathy_]

If all your kids graduate na...talo mo na kami...hehe

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CSA then DLSU ka ata?

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[brushless]

does school really matter?

Not necessarily. It's the person's ability, perseverance and street smart that matters the most. I have a friend who graduated from STI. Now, he is in Malaysia, earning a six figure income equivalent, has his own house there and a car. He is married with one kid. And the CEO in the Philippines from an exclusive school earns how much? Sheesh.

If higher tiered companies in the Philippines are reserved mostly for exclusive university applicants, a pinoy can always go overseas where his skills and performance are more recognized rather than the school they've attended. The Philippines has a really backward culture and if this cultural mindset doesn't change, there won't by any real progress in this country. Look at our politicians. Wow, most of them have impressive school background, sosyal dude. And look at state of the Philippines. What a joke. We are so proud of our schools and yet couldn't even make it to the top 200 in the whole of ASIA. Another joke.

Choosing applicants here is like choosing a branded product. It's so f up.

So glad I didn't have my education in the Philippines. Otherwise, I'll be discriminated based upon the school I've attended. lol.

[Walter]

It happens everywhere ...

[mda]

So glad I didn't have my education in the Philippines. Otherwise, I'll be discriminated based upon the school I've attended. lol.

Sa US... Ivy leaguers looking down on everyone else.

Same with the posh schools in Singapore. NUS, NTU, SMU. The rest are ho hum. That's assuming you can even scrape up the ridiculous grades needed to join.

People still discriminate by the color of their skin. Even moreso your school? haha

[_Cathy_]

Sa US... Ivy leaguers looking down on everyone else.

Same with the posh schools in Singapore. NUS, NTU, SMU. The rest are ho hum. That's assuming you can even scrape up the ridiculous grades needed to join.

People still discriminate by the color of their skin. Even moreso your school? haha

I agree. Even among Universities may discrimination pa rin, lalo na pag community college.

[reddik2017]

If you want to get employed,then a school's reputation really matters. Even the ADS minsan naka enumerate na kung grads ng aling univ ang preferred ng employer.

Discrimation will always be around no matter what.

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[Yatta]

I started my career in IT by joining a firm known to hire mostly grads from UP, ADMU, and DLSU. It's true that when hiring fresh grads, they have an advantage over less known universities, even more for grads from the province. When actual work starts and the playing field evens out at the office, school is not a big factor anymore.

However, when I am hiring experienced resources, their college is not a major consideration for me. I look more for skill, attitude, and maturity.

The country produces tens of thousands of grads trying to get only a thousand or so jobs. Graduates need all the advantage they can get. If only our unemployment rate is not so high.

If one takes IT course now ... by the time you graduate, there might be over production of IT professionals ...

I remember when we were in fourth year HS, a lot of my classmates took PT as it was the "in" thing back then. BY the time they graduated the market was saturated with PT grads. Then the nursing craze took over, Pinoy MDs ditching their careers to take up nursing (and getting flak abroad for questioning other physicians while working as nurses), even a computer school began offering BS Nursing. Ganun din after a few years, sobra-sobra ang mga nurses.

[makelovenotwar]

I believe IT - software development is still in now.
Lots of job openings. Very easy to jump from one employer to another.
Palaging "kulang sa tao" ang bukang-bibig ng mga IT - software project managers.


I don't know with IT - hardware though.

[_Cathy_]

I believe IT - software development is still in now.
Lots of job openings. Very easy to jump from one employer to another.
Palaging "kulang sa tao" ang bukang-bibig ng mga IT - software project managers.


I don't know with IT - hardware though.

Saka IT pwede kahit anong industry.

And I realized di pwede bobo sa IT. LOL. Yung gumagawa ng codes, kailangan magaling sa analysis and rational. Yung friend ko nga magaling sa macro at SQL e fan na fan na ko. I don't know how I will survive at work without him. He makes my life so much easier.

[CVT]

Relax...chill..hehe

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Kung graduate ng Engineering o IT iyan na after first semester pa lang,- irregular na kaagad ang kalahati ng batch,- mai-intindihan niyan....hehehe

[_Cathy_]

Ateneo is the best IMO. Kahit di ako Atenean

[SpinCycle]

I work in IT and I’ve interviewed so many applicants from different schools (prestigious and not).

I always look for the following:
- honesty
- work ethic
- adaptability
- willingness to learn

I have no preference when it comes to school. I’ve been burned before by focusing too much on the school and the resume.

Nowadays, I prefer to have a quick 10 min pre-interview call with the applicant to gauge if the have the above criteria at the surface level.




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[mda]

Saka IT pwede kahit anong industry.

And I realized di pwede bobo sa IT. LOL. Yung gumagawa ng codes, kailangan magaling sa analysis and rational. Yung friend ko nga magaling sa macro at SQL e fan na fan na ko. I don't know how I will survive at work without him. He makes my life so much easier.

Marami rin IT, marunong yung code, pero yung business logic for the program hindi na ggets. Tuloy kelangan mo i guide, kasi naliligaw.

[_Cathy_]

Marami rin IT, marunong yung code, pero yung business logic for the program hindi na ggets. Tuloy kelangan mo i guide, kasi naliligaw.

Yup. Dapat magaling pumick up at magaling sa logic. Ganyan friend ko.

Yung isa dto marunong din pero d niya ma execute yung gusto mo mangyari. Kaya wala ako bilib.

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[mda]

Yup. Dapat magaling pumick up at magaling sa logic. Ganyan friend ko.

Yung isa dto marunong din pero d niya ma execute yung gusto mo mangyari. Kaya wala ako bilib.

One thing I learned more than a few years out of college is that some people don't have business sense. Even if they are very good at what they do, some can't or don't understand the business application of what they are doing or need to do...

Took me a while to get that. Ako lang na ffrustrate.

[makelovenotwar]

One thing I learned more than a few years out of college is that some people don't have business sense. Even if they are very good at what they do, some can't or don't understand the business application of what they are doing or need to do...

Took me a while to get that. Ako lang na ffrustrate.

Admittedly, I am one of those IT people that you are referring to.
If you tell me to do a bank program that will accept a cash deposit from a client,
then I'll just code something that will credit the client's account.
Heck I don't know that there is a business rule that for every credit entry, there should also be a corresponding equal debit entry somewhere.

That's why people who can do both(coding and business) are getting paid much much higher.

[Ry_Tower]

In hiring siguro huwag din nati isipin na discrimination na talaga nangingibabaw.

Hindi ba puwedeng proven na din kasi na mas magaling nga, mas mabilis matuto, mag-adjust at competitive pa yung sa mga top schools. Kaya nga top schools eh. Entrance exam pa lang alam mo na kung mahirap or hindi. Yung tipong sa ibang school halos kalahati ng classmate mo papasa, pero sa iba walang sampu lang yung pumapasa.

The best schools will always attract the majority of the best students din naman talaga. It is a fact of life and since nag-graduate siya dun, siyempre inaasahan na magaling siya.

Sabi nga ng nanay ko, "There is always a room for the Top". That is not really discrimination if you ask me, it's logic and sound decision making din naman.

[mda]

Admittedly, I am one of those IT people that you are referring to.
Heck I don't know that there is a business rule that for every credit entry, there should also be a corresponding equal debit entry somewhere.

Sorry sir, did not mean to offend you.

Hard to explain, and what you mentioned doesn't automatically put you in that bracket.

What I mean is, na explain na yung business needs for a relatively simple program and after multiple re-steering sessions, yung lumabas na product still does not conform to the business requirements. It's as if hindi naintindihan yung pinaka purpose ng program. The program works flawlessly as is though.

Your example mentioned is lack of knowledge about the underlying business rules or principles. That one is not really an issue...

[makelovenotwar]

Sorry sir, did not mean to offend you.

Hard to explain, and what you mentioned doesn't automatically put you in that bracket.

What I mean is, na explain na yung business needs for a relatively simple program and after multiple re-steering sessions, yung lumabas na product still does not conform to the business requirements. It's as if hindi naintindihan yung pinaka purpose ng program. The program works flawlessly as is though.

Your example mentioned is lack of knowledge about the underlying business rules or principles. That one is not really an issue...

No offense taken sir.
Now I get what you mean.
Yes, my example does not fit.

BTT:
In our company, we have an exam for developer applicants.
Most (if not all) of the time, applicants that do not pass the exam come from the not-so-popular schools.
The exam is mostly a test of logic and problem solving.

Maybe it's the law of percentages na din like that was mentioned here before.

[dreamur]

Left brain - right brain. That is why we have business systems analyst who are the advance users and the programmers who are the technical experts.

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