Does school really matter?

**jut703** · April 24th, 2018 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by MR_BIG18

Is that b4 or after taxes?

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Usually before taxes.

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**MamBad** · April 24th, 2018 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Data from our Office of Placement puts the average salary of Ateneo fresh grads at 25k.

I find the data from Jobstreet inaccurate because it's too low. But if you look at the FB page, most comments say that it's too high. [emoji848]

Monthly rate is usually computed as your annual rate (incl. all guaranteed bonuses, not just 13th month) divided by 12. But some people also compute the other way around - monthly rate x 12 for the annual, then add all the bonuses.

Based on the latest survey, PUP tops the list of preferred schools again. But their data is based on Jobstreet, and in that Jobstreet survey, the highest paying fresh grad job is 27k. [emoji23][emoji23]

I can tell you with 100% certainty that there are first jobs that pay much more than 27k and the people who get those jobs aren't mostly PUP grads. [emoji6]

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Not sure if this is true, but daughter of a family friend who was one of the top in batch was offered 80k by a multinational FMCG for his/her first job.

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**jut703** · April 24th, 2018 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by MamBad

Not sure if this is true, but daughter of a family friend who was one of the top in batch was offered 80k by a multinational FMCG for his/her first job.

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Yes that's true.

5 years ago it was 65k for Unilever (UFLP), 52k for P&G. So 80k these days for a Unilever management trainee seems about right.

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**_Cathy_** · April 24th, 2018 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Data from our Office of Placement puts the average salary of Ateneo fresh grads at 25k.

I find the data from Jobstreet inaccurate because it's too low. But if you look at the FB page, most comments say that it's too high. [emoji848]

Monthly rate is usually computed as your annual rate (incl. all guaranteed bonuses, not just 13th month) divided by 12. But some people also compute the other way around - monthly rate x 12 for the annual, then add all the bonuses.

Based on the latest survey, PUP tops the list of preferred schools again. But their data is based on Jobstreet, and in that Jobstreet survey, the highest paying fresh grad job is 27k. [emoji23][emoji23]

I can tell you with 100% certainty that there are first jobs that pay much more than 27k and the people who get those jobs aren't mostly PUP grads. [emoji6]

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Mababa nga because using that data for AM/M, I am above the top average. But in reality mababa sweldo ko, dahil wala pa kong 2 digits monthly

But based on where you work, those stats will be really low, since you belong to one of the top paying companies in the country

PUP is preferred by BPOs ata? But most prestigious companies only hire UP, DLSU-M and ADMU, then a very small percentage of other schools. Nestle nga puro Ateneo, at least during my time.

**dreamur** · April 25th, 2018 12:26 AM

You will be surprised some BPOs are offering only P12K/month for clerical jobs.

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**Walter** · April 25th, 2018 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by MamBad

Not sure if this is true, but daughter of a family friend who was one of the top in batch was offered 80k by a multinational FMCG for his/her first job.

What is her course? ...

**Walter** · April 25th, 2018 08:10 AM

What is a good college course these days? ... Is Industrial Engineering good? ... Better than Marketing? ... What's the job of an Industrial Engineer? ... Is it same as Management Engineering? ...

**CVT** · April 25th, 2018 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Walter

What is a good college course these days? ... Is Industrial Engineering good? ... Better than Marketing? ... What's the job of an Industrial Engineer? ... Is it same as Management Engineering? ...

If you're talking about IE in DLSU [used to be IME with minor in ChemE or MechE],-then, it is practically the same package as ME in ADMU,- but with more focus on the engineering(application) side of things.

**MR_BIG18** · April 25th, 2018 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Walter

What is a good college course these days? ... Is Industrial Engineering good? ... Better than Marketing? ... What's the job of an Industrial Engineer? ... Is it same as Management Engineering? ...

Easy... bachelor of science in customs administration and bachelor's degree in religious studies or philosophy..

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**_Cathy_** · April 25th, 2018 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Walter

What is a good college course these days? ... Is Industrial Engineering good? ... Better than Marketing? ... What's the job of an Industrial Engineer? ... Is it same as Management Engineering? ...

Definitely IT.

Originally Posted by CVT

If you're talking about IE in DLSU [used to be IME with minor in ChemE or MechE],-then, it is practically the same package as ME in ADMU,- but with more focus on the engineering(application) side of things.

We treat IE grads as normal college grads in our company. ME lang ng Ateneo ang may premium. Also, iba nga focus ng IE diba. I have several IE friends and we make fun of them na "Instant Engineer". IE ng DLSU pwede average intelligence pero ME ng Ateneo, you have to be really intelligent.

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**chronicle** · April 25th, 2018 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by _Cathy_

Definitely IT.

We treat IE grads as normal college grads in our company. ME lang ng Ateneo ang may premium. Also, iba nga focus ng IE diba. I have several IE friends and we make fun of them na "Instant Engineer". IE ng DLSU pwede average intelligence pero ME ng Ateneo, you have to be really intelligent.

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Haha. Actually, the reason why IE became instant engineer is because it is the only one engineering course that has no board exam.

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I would also say an IT course is more in demand this days.

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**jut703** · April 25th, 2018 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by _Cathy_

We treat IE grads as normal college grads in our company. ME lang ng Ateneo ang may premium. Also, iba nga focus ng IE diba. I have several IE friends and we make fun of them na "Instant Engineer". IE ng DLSU pwede average intelligence pero ME ng Ateneo, you have to be really intelligent.

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Because you're in finance, and IE grads have a limited background in finance. I know a lot of IE grads, none of which are in finance. They're much less business-oriented than ME, but far more engineering-oriented.

For technical jobs that require project managememt, IE guys have a premium. One of my best friends who's an IE grad is a Malampaya project manager. I would never have qualified for that role as I don't have enough exposure to the engineering side of things.

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**CVT** · April 25th, 2018 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by _Cathy_

Definitely IT.

We treat IE grads as normal college grads in our company. ME lang ng Ateneo ang may premium. Also, iba nga focus ng IE diba. I have several IE friends and we make fun of them na "Instant Engineer". IE ng DLSU pwede average intelligence pero ME ng Ateneo, you have to be really intelligent.

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There is an IE Honors Program in DLSU,- and this separates the excellent men from the rest....

IME[DLSU] then was most probably the equivalent of ME[ADMU]...

I have IME batchmates who are Finance Controllers....

**_Cathy_** · April 25th, 2018 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

Because you're in finance, and IE grads have a limited background in finance. I know a lot of IE grads, none of which are in finance. They're much less business-oriented than ME, but far more engineering-oriented.

For technical jobs that require project managememt, IE guys have a premium. One of my best friends who's an IE grad is a Malampaya project manager. I would never have qualified for that role as I don't have enough exposure to the engineering side of things.

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But IE in DLSU is waayyyyy easier than ME in ADMU. Pwede average intelligence sa IE ng DLSU.

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**CVT** · April 25th, 2018 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by _Cathy_

But IE in DLSU is waayyyyy easier than ME in ADMU. Pwede average intelligence sa IE ng DLSU.

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"waayyyyy easier...."

How do you know that?

Were you a former student of both?

**_Cathy_** · April 25th, 2018 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by CVT

"waayyyyy easier...."

How do you know that?

Were you a former student of both?

Defensive ka ata. Lol. Because I have several IE friends. Aminado nga sila hindi sila papasa sa ME ng ADMU. That's my opinion and it will not change. ADMU ME grads are superior over DLSU IE grads

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**CVT** · April 25th, 2018 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by _Cathy_

Defensive ka ata. Lol. Because I have several IE friends. Aminado nga sila hindi sila papasa sa ME ng ADMU. That's my opinion and it will not change.

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Again, "agree to disagree"... And if you're not there,- still "sabi-sabi"....

BTW,- your "waayyyyy" is certainly a hyperbole... o sabi nga ng mga jologs,- "Exagg...""...

**_Cathy_** · April 25th, 2018 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by CVT

Again, "agree to disagree"... And if you're not there,- still "sabi-sabi"....

BTW,- your "waayyyyy" is certainly a hyperbole... o sabi nga ng mga jologs,- "Exagg...""...

It's not sabi sabi because it came straight from the horse's mouth.

I'm not exaggerating.

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**_Cathy_** · April 25th, 2018 09:04 AM

Honestly I do not understand people who get so defensive about schools or their alma mater. School ko sterotyped as school ng mga kulang sa talino at maaarte but I don't care.

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**MR_BIG18** · April 25th, 2018 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by CVT

Again, "agree to disagree"... And if you're not there,- still "sabi-sabi"....

BTW,- your "waayyyyy" is certainly a hyperbole... o sabi nga ng mga jologs,- "Exagg...""...

Relax...chill..hehe

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