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April 27th, 2005 09:56 PM #1
nag-english lang ako pagkinausap ako in english... pero pag-alam ko naman nagtatagalog yun at conio-logs lang, eh nagtatagalog na lang ako...
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April 27th, 2005 10:10 PM #2
I write both for fun and for competition and yet I feel that I still have a long way to go with my english skills.
However, seeing that even Americans in U.S. forums also don't have perfect english, I guess I'm not that far off.
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April 27th, 2005 10:33 PM #3imo, kahit anong lumabas na english grammar sa bibig ko no big deal..basta ba napaparating ko ang ibig kong ipaunawa sa kausap kung hapon man o kano o aleman o italyano..english kasi ang international language na gamit..
sa totoo lang pag yong iba naman ang umenglish lalo na sa english movies or tv shows di ko parin masundan ang pilipit ng mga pinagsasabi nila..slang kasi tapos hindi clear ang diction..
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April 27th, 2005 10:45 PM #4
Here’s something to think about concerning our country’s English proficiency and enunciation and pronunciation. IIRC the unemployment rate is now at around 7-11% and yet call centers and other organizations are hard pressed to fill in positions because of dismal English language skills that a lot of Pinoys have. I know a lot of Filipinos take pride in their bad English but it isn’t funny when you're turned down because you are barok.
I’ve been interviewing a lot of applications for the past few weeks (100+) and barely 20% of our positions are filled. A great number of applications flunk because of poor scores from their language exam. Sure a lot of us might say “that’s ok” if you’re working locally but a lot of local businesses use English in their communiqués and documentation. What more if you try to apply at multinationals like P&G, Citibank or whatnot?
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April 30th, 2005 05:43 PM #5
Originally Posted by OTO
I have been in IT for about 10 years and in recent years, the quality of tech support being provided by companies like Cisco, Microsoft, Computer Associates and the like have gone down substantially due to outsourcing off-shore engineers from India, Russia and other non-english speaking countries. I don't mean to be critical but I don't care if they have acquired every CISCO or Microsoft certification known to man, if I can't understand them, they're really not helping. So I thought for sure that most of these companies would flock Manila with their billion-dollar contracts to local call centers.
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April 27th, 2005 11:14 PM #6
i speak english if im talking with someone who speak english, when im having difficulty speaking id rather pause and speak slowly, i have the tendency to talk fast which, sometimes i mumble the word i say. minsan spaeking clearly and speaking understandbly is good enough, kasi yung ibang foreigner dont have correct grammar but yun iba speak audibly so nakakadaya
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April 29th, 2005 01:36 AM #8
mayroon pa akong observation sa mga young parents ngayon..ewan ko lang kung pansin niyo ito:
bakit nila kinakausap yung anak nila ng english?..saan ba galing mga anak nila, mga foreigner ba yun?..kaya yung bata english lang ang alam kapag nag-aral ng pilipino sa school mga baluktot ang dila..
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April 29th, 2005 04:03 PM #9
Originally Posted by Hero
What I noticed in the states though... There are a lot of what we call "TWINKIES" Yellow on the outside but White on the Inside. alam mo na... mga Asians in general lumakhi sa tate and they talk and act like white people. Maski na ganun sila, you can still see the deep Filipino culture imbeded in them especially around family and friends. ...and I can almost guarantee they all do the KARAOKE thing!!! We can't deny it! It's in our blood!!!
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April 30th, 2005 03:42 PM #10
Originally Posted by swapcentral.ph
but to be fair, we don't use it as a derogatory term to pinoys who grow up in the states and have the culture of americans (i myself am like this so i can't be a hypocrite ;) ). the real COCONUTS are the people who turn their back on their heritage and do stupid stuff like pretend they don't speak tagalog (baluktot naman ang english, bwahaha)