nag-english lang ako pagkinausap ako in english... pero pag-alam ko naman nagtatagalog yun at conio-logs lang, eh nagtatagalog na lang ako...
nag-english lang ako pagkinausap ako in english... pero pag-alam ko naman nagtatagalog yun at conio-logs lang, eh nagtatagalog na lang ako...
I write both for fun and for competition and yet I feel that I still have a long way to go with my english skills.
However, seeing that even Americans in U.S. forums also don't have perfect english, I guess I'm not that far off.
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imo, kahit anong lumabas na english grammar sa bibig ko no big deal..basta ba napaparating ko ang ibig kong ipaunawa sa kausap kung hapon man o kano o aleman o italyano..english kasi ang international language na gamit..
sa totoo lang pag yong iba naman ang umenglish lalo na sa english movies or tv shows di ko parin masundan ang pilipit ng mga pinagsasabi nila..slang kasi tapos hindi clear ang diction..![]()
Here’s something to think about concerning our country’s English proficiency and enunciation and pronunciation. IIRC the unemployment rate is now at around 7-11% and yet call centers and other organizations are hard pressed to fill in positions because of dismal English language skills that a lot of Pinoys have. I know a lot of Filipinos take pride in their bad English but it isn’t funny when you're turned down because you are barok.
I’ve been interviewing a lot of applications for the past few weeks (100+) and barely 20% of our positions are filled. A great number of applications flunk because of poor scores from their language exam. Sure a lot of us might say “that’s ok” if you’re working locally but a lot of local businesses use English in their communiqués and documentation. What more if you try to apply at multinationals like P&G, Citibank or whatnot?
I missed this post earlier but that was very interesting! I thought for sure that call center jobs would be scarce being that English is our second language and that a lot of people would or should be qualified to answer phones and provide support in English.Originally Posted by OTO
I have been in IT for about 10 years and in recent years, the quality of tech support being provided by companies like Cisco, Microsoft, Computer Associates and the like have gone down substantially due to outsourcing off-shore engineers from India, Russia and other non-english speaking countries. I don't mean to be critical but I don't care if they have acquired every CISCO or Microsoft certification known to man, if I can't understand them, they're really not helping. So I thought for sure that most of these companies would flock Manila with their billion-dollar contracts to local call centers.
i speak english if im talking with someone who speak english, when im having difficulty speaking id rather pause and speak slowly, i have the tendency to talk fast which, sometimes i mumble the word i say. minsan spaeking clearly and speaking understandbly is good enough, kasi yung ibang foreigner dont have correct grammar but yun iba speak audibly so nakakadaya
mayroon pa akong observation sa mga young parents ngayon..ewan ko lang kung pansin niyo ito:
bakit nila kinakausap yung anak nila ng english?..saan ba galing mga anak nila, mga foreigner ba yun?..kaya yung bata english lang ang alam kapag nag-aral ng pilipino sa school mga baluktot ang dila..
See!!! I made this mistake but I kinda have a legit reason. I gained full custody of my daughter when she was a year old and moved back to the states. I just speak to her in English for obvious reasons. Now I kinda regret it cuz I kase kailangan may suhol just so I can teach her a few things. I made sure she knew the culture though, at least most of what I can remember. She calls my folks Lolo and Lola even though my dad is white. So now, I just started re-establishing residency in Manila and she's gonna have to go to school there in Manila and it's gonna be the same cycle over again. She should be okay though. Bata pa anman sya and they pick it up like that [snap].Originally Posted by Hero
What I noticed in the states though... There are a lot of what we call "TWINKIES" Yellow on the outside but White on the Inside. alam mo na... mga Asians in general lumakhi sa tate and they talk and act like white people. Maski na ganun sila, you can still see the deep Filipino culture imbeded in them especially around family and friends. ...and I can almost guarantee they all do the KARAOKE thing!!! We can't deny it! It's in our blood!!!
haha...living in LA we used to call some pinoys "COCONUTS" - brown on the outside, white on the inside :bwahaha:Originally Posted by swapcentral.ph
but to be fair, we don't use it as a derogatory term to pinoys who grow up in the states and have the culture of americans (i myself am like this so i can't be a hypocrite ;) ). the real COCONUTS are the people who turn their back on their heritage and do stupid stuff like pretend they don't speak tagalog (baluktot naman ang english, bwahaha)
I know someone na medyo related sa post ni Hero.
During the time of Pinoy Alternative circa 90s, there was this guy who is really proud of the Pinoy Ethnic Culture. He jams with Joey Ayala, Freddie Aguilar, etc. Usually dressed in ethnic attire. Knows how to play ethnic musical instruments. Composed ethnic musics. In short Proud Pinoy siya. Then he became a father. He never taught his son to speak in Tagalog. He never let his son play with other children simply because they speak in Tagalog. This guy is full of hypocrisy in his blood.
IMO, teaching your children the English is fine with me. But forgetting your own culture is BS. Teka nga pala English yung post ko ah. :D
Tingin ko ok lang yung English sa bata, basta tama yung English nung magulang. Pero mali naman yata yung bawal makipaglaro sa nagatatagalog. Ano ba naman yan...
Ah eto, pero tingin ko nagbibiro lang yung nagsalita eh: "Thanks for the time being ha."
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swapcentral.ph, what sucks are those who deny their heritage. Pero pango naman ang ilong. :D
ha ha!!! So true! We all run into people like that. I grew up with a couple white kids in Manila. Nakgkita kits kami last year. Mas pinoy pa sila compared to some Pinoys I know both in the states and Manila. No joke!Originally Posted by FrankDrebin
ok lang naman yun kung nasa states..dahil english naman talaga dun.. pero yung mga andito sa maynila..kausap nila yung bata, english..kapag silang mag-asawa pilipino naman gamit..
hehehe! meron din iba, pag linalambing nila o kaya, inuutusan ang aso nila eh de-english pa. pero kung kausapin ka -- tagalog. feeling inferior to the dog tuloy ako!Originally Posted by Hero
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Totoong letter po ito....basahin nyo!
October 1996
To Marjie,
I am not surprise or wander why Dennis leave you. Why?
What reason you can think about but you're very fat
body. I thought before that Dennis only use me to
his toy but sooner and later I'm realize that he
really can't not beared or stomached to be with you
anymore because at first, Dennis say he could not
stand you're habit of making pakialam all his walks [lakad]
and always calling to their house what he go home or
this or that. And then he say he get ashame to met
iether in school or in his family and then asking you to
exercise you're very very, very fat body. But you hate it.
Thoughth your the most preetiest girls he knows about.What do you
think you are "Beautiful Girl" of Jose Marie Chan?Even you are
beautiful face (to your think) you do not have the right to called me
whatsoever or else different name one time or the other for the real
purposed to insults my personality because I'm never call you names iether
in the front of Dennis or in the backs of Dennis, but if you start already to
calling me different name, I don't have any other choice but to call you
other different name to. Like you are a PIG, FAT, OBESSED, OVERWIGHT, AND UGLY SHAPE girl. Shame to you're body that is to a BUDING. You
can't not blame Dennis for exchanging you to me because I am the more ***ier than you when you look to us in the mirror. I'm repeat again that you
are like Ike Lozada when she is a girl.
Love,
The ***iest Girl of D.M.
P.S. You say that I'm the bad breathe but who is
Dennis want to kissed. Me or you? You or me? And
the final is me. There you go.
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amp. :bwahaha: *roll roll roll* AhahahahahahaOriginally Posted by P!lya
Sabi ko nga sa eh (in one of my previoys posts), may kakilala ako na ang anak nag-sabi ng ganito eh: "Tagalog is so colloquial, so everyday". Parang bang, kapag nag-Tagalog sya eh bumababa yung...."quality" nya. Ni minsan, hindi ko narinig mag-salita ng Tagalog 'yung bata kapag bumisita ako sa bahay nila. Susme, swak naman sa sinabi ni FD: pango naman ang ilong.
Mas nakaka asar siguro kapag tinatagalog mo tapos di ka pinapansin kunwari di ka niya naintindihan. hehehe buti sa mga pinsan ko walang ganyan kahit more than 10 years na sila sa tate.