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    Quote Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699
    ang hirap kasi sa atin dito sarado na isip nang iilan.
    i think eto problema satin. di tayo open minded especially dun sa mga situation na wala tayo doon. after reading the thread nakita ko ang pros and cons ng nakauniform na maid. sa akin lang, kung wala pa tayo sa kinalalagyan ng among nakauniform ang maid e wag tayo mag-judge. baka mamya pag nandun na kayo sa sitwasyon ng amo e gawin nyo rin yung inaangal nyo ngayon. and for the record, wala ho ako maid(still looking) kaya "american lifestyle" ho ako ngayon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niwde11
    i think eto problema satin. di tayo open minded especially dun sa mga situation na wala tayo doon. after reading the thread nakita ko ang pros and cons ng nakauniform na maid. sa akin lang, kung wala pa tayo sa kinalalagyan ng among nakauniform ang maid e wag tayo mag-judge. baka mamya pag nandun na kayo sa sitwasyon ng amo e gawin nyo rin yung inaangal nyo ngayon. and for the record, wala ho ako maid(still looking) kaya "american lifestyle" ho ako ngayon.
    Yun, pre, sinabi mo na rin, since you admitted that you don't have maids. So perhaps your recommendation applies to you.

    We have maids in the family. When we go out (shopping, mall, etc.) they can wear anything they feel like wearing. So when you are in a crowded fastfood for example, you won't "necessarily" attract attention to yourself. Iwas perception. At the same time, I'm not really bothered by the thought of the maid in civilian clothes rather than a maid uniform. That's my family. Other families may have their own preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niwde11
    i think eto problema satin. di tayo open minded especially dun sa mga situation na wala tayo doon. after reading the thread nakita ko ang pros and cons ng nakauniform na maid. sa akin lang, kung wala pa tayo sa kinalalagyan ng among nakauniform ang maid e wag tayo mag-judge. baka mamya pag nandun na kayo sa sitwasyon ng amo e gawin nyo rin yung inaangal nyo ngayon. and for the record, wala ho ako maid(still looking) kaya "american lifestyle" ho ako ngayon.

    natumpok mo master ang matagal ko naring sinasabi...

    madami kasing tao na husga nang husga.hindi muna tingnan ang sarili sa salamin.

    uulitin ko lang..masama ang mag isip ng masama sa iba..lalo na kung hindi naman natin kilala.so let's just live in peace.wag yung ang dumi ng utak sa kapwa =)

    i love you all.bow.

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    i hope this will be my final post in this thread.

    this is the first post of the thread starter:

    Quote Originally Posted by El Chicane
    Malimit akong mapadaan sa Alabang Town Center, and i noticed that many families (Pinoy sila) who go to ATC (presumably sa Ayala Alabang sila nakatira) kilala mo kagad kung sino dun ang maid or yaya -- they are wearing obvious maid uniform.

    Do they really have to wear maid uniforms -- in public??? I find it discriminating. Para tuloy master and slave ang dating.
    and i have answered it in numerous posts, being a maid or yaya is a decent job so there's nothing wrong for them to wear uniforms. wearing uniforms is a sign of professionalism. not wearing one may actually mean that the maid/yaya is ashamed of her job that's why she don't want to be identified as one. those who think that it is discriminatory are the ones who actually practice discrimination.

    and then, in the middle of the thread, some posters suddenly turned it against the 'amo'. that they are flaunting their social status by requiring the yayas to wear uniform. again, in my numerous posts, i have stressed that it is not the intention of the 'amo' to flaunt. but we deemed it more appropriate for yayas to wear uniform because the uniform fits any occasion. you won't have to worry what the yaya will wear wherever you are going.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
    But here in the Philippines, I don't think we a have a long history of paying up to have servants. In our history, those who have paid servants are usually the elite class. The middle class started to acquire maids/yayas in the 50's, and up until the 70's most of them are "paki-usap lang" - or generally "in kind" lang ang bayaran like sending the yaya/maid to school or simply housing her since she has nowhere else to go. This developed a culture of "personal attachment" to maids/yayas. It's only about the late 70's when maids/yayas for the middle class became a legitimate "paid job". And by that time, I guess the chinoys indeed introduced the practice that maids/yayas are treated as paid employees of families. That's also about the time maids/yayas are started to be sourced through employment agencies.
    actually, it is the spaniards who first employed household helps in our country, not the chinoys.

    as people move up the social ladder and/or acquire better paying jobs, you will see more and more people who can afford to have maids/yayas as they will have lesser time to tend to their household chores. and you will also see more and more families having uniformed yayas everywhere you go.

    to av8or5, being a Chinoy has nothing to do to the purpose of this thread. and the thread starter have actually emphasized this, and i requote:

    Quote Originally Posted by El Chicane
    Malimit akong mapadaan sa Alabang Town Center, and i noticed that many families (Pinoy sila) who go to ATC (presumably sa Ayala Alabang sila nakatira) kilala mo kagad kung sino dun ang maid or yaya -- they are wearing obvious maid uniform.
    bringing the chinoy/pinoy issue out will stem to a more heated debate. and i wish to avoid that.

    and lastly, about the perceptions toward seeing yayas in uniform. different folks have different perceptions. and if you let all the perceptions affect your life, you will end up just like a string puppet with these perceptions controlling your life.
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    revoGSX: yup same order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    revoGSX: yup same order.
    i mean isang oder na lang kasama na yung food ng maid, yung nag-post kasi dito eh wala pang food yung maid habang kumakain yung mga amo..

    kaya ang tingin tuloy ng iba eh hindi na kakain yung mga maid, either hindi na talaga kakain or to-follow na lang after ng amo, baka kasi gusto ng maid mainit pa food nila hehe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by revoGSX
    i mean isang oder na lang kasama na yung food ng maid, yung nag-post kasi dito eh wala pang food yung maid habang kumakain yung mga amo..

    kaya ang tingin tuloy ng iba eh hindi na kakain yung mga maid, either hindi na talaga kakain or to-follow na lang after ng amo, baka kasi gusto ng maid mainit pa food nila hehe..
    dude kahit walang pagkain sa harap nung maid wala pa din karapatan husgahan yung amo or yung maid.

    kasi hindi nyo naman talaga alam ang tunay na dahilan kung bakit walang pagkain yung maid sa harap nya.

    malay mo tapos na kumain at pinaalis na yung pinggan kasi baka hablutin ni baby.

    madami dahilan kaya wala tayo pakialam para makialam.

    Wag tayo humusga kung hindi natin alam kung ano tunay na dahilan kaya nag gulo gulo nang mundo dahil dito sa ugali nato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699
    Wag tayo humusga kung hindi natin alam kung ano tunay na dahilan kaya nag gulo gulo nang mundo dahil dito sa ugali nato.
    actually, that goes the same for everything.

    like with our governement... some people would hastily point fingers at how corrupt this government or how inefficient our public servants are without even talking to one government official.

    overall, there are some bad eggs out there (who maltreat/disrespect/discriminate maids) but that doesn't mean that we have to generalize the everyone is like that. whether that is to provide maids with clean looking uniform, to have a employee-employer distinction, etc. - that is their own choice and is within their legal rights to do so.

    same thing also for those who doesn't prefer uniformed maids. that doesn't mean that they all perceive those that have uniformed maids as arrogant / showoffs / matapobre / etc. in their opinion, being at least equal in terms of clothing would somehow be a morale booster for their househelp.

    but still, be prepared for the perception that other people may have over you since not all people are open-minded and there is nothing that you can do to change that. that is their opinion and they are entitled to it. unless you are being threatened by a mob over your uniformed maid, they are within the legal boundaries to think so like that. maybe it is their upbringing, environment, social status, religious background, etc - you can never know.

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    medyo mainit na dito hehe..

    ipadala na natin itong topic na ito kay MARE at PARE sa DEBATE para mapood natin kung ano mangyayari...

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    revoGSX: yup usually kasama na sa order ang food ng maid.

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    I agree that maids uniform are for professional and practical reasons, and what's important is how the family treats their maids/ yaya.

    There are families that really require their maids to wear uniform, they also pay them well, respect them as employees and not as servants, while meron naman dyan di nagpapauniform pero barat magsueldo, pag magtrato akala mo kung sino. My point is don't judge anyones preference if you don't know them personally.

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    IPSG; we have maid/s before(nung lahat pa kami ay nakatira sa isang bahay). but now since i am alone, i try to be independent as possible(still hoping). ako kasi ang tingin ko sa may maid na nakauniform is they "can afford" and not the "hate amo" attitude. As long as di ko pa nararating yung makaafford ng "uniformed maid" di ko sila pwede judge na kung ano man iniisip ng iba. sabi nga nung isang poster, maybe status lang yan. wala sa pagkatao yan. to quote an NBA player; "i dont mind things that i have no control with".

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    maiba naman, dito ba sa P'nas nakakita na kayo ng amo with butler?

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    Nope, and I don't like the word maid either. It sounds derogatory.

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    aabot kaya to ng 30 page?

    personally: if i were to have my own big home, id prefer my maid to have their distinct uniform, like a butler perhaps, and if i go to a party with my kids that i would need a helper to come with us, i would let her wear a prescribed uniform as well so people wont look at them in a wrong way, how ill have their uniform done in the best way possible

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    mabuhay ka glenn

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    pinapalamig ko lang ulo ni m2..hahahaha..hug kita m2!!

    ahihihihi

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    Mods, lock niyo na ito......hindi na maganda nababasa natin.

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    oo nga, natatawa na lang ako dito sa statement na ito (paraphrasing):

    "ok lang na pagsuotin niyo ng uniform ang maid nyo but just prepare for the negative perceptions and judging from other people"

    :bwahaha:

    i'm not doubting the accuracy of this statement, but the question i keep asking is - why should you care about what people think of you, most of whom you don't even know? if you live your life according to what others' perception is of you you'll end up miserable and never pleasing everybody anyway. naalala ko yung Aesop's fable about the man, his son and the donkey.

    some people spend too much time worrying about perceptions and things like that beyond our control. if we learned to just not give a damn once in awhile and stop trying to impress people we don't even know (or like) we'd be so much happier

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    Quote Originally Posted by M54 Powered

    some people spend too much time worrying about perceptions and things like that beyond our control. if we learned to just not give a damn once in awhile and stop trying to impress people we don't even know (or like) we'd be so much happier
    I've also come across a quote that says something like: Don't worry too much about what others think of you. You'd be surprised how little they do.

    Ang haba na ng thread na ito. At kanya-kanyang opinion. At gaya ng nasabi ko, wala akong nakikitang problema kung naka-uniporme ang maid. It is their preference. As long as they are treating them well.

    Whether nagpapasikat sila or dahil may purpose ang uniform, wala na tayong paki-alam.

Do maids have to wear a uniform?