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    Ayaw kasi ilabas ang official autopsy report pero may nag-leak sakin na sa batok daw ang tama. Statistically sa temple or sa bibig ang usual na tama kapag self-inflicted ang sugat. And just how exactly do you shoot yourself in the nape?

    May mga speculations pa na si Miriam daw mismo ang bumaril during her 'insane' moments although I would not hastily draw that conclusion naman.

    Yung mga mahilig sa CSI, ano sa tingin niyo? :whoa:

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    hmm... hindi naman siguro si Miriam yung bumaril...

    what would be her motive?

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    mbt,

    Does 'INSANITY' ring a bell?

    tingalilingaling...

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    kung kaliwete yung anak tapos sa may kanan ang tama hindi suicide yun.

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    otep,

    nyak...! hayup sa conspiracy theory a hehehehe :D

    seriously, totoo ba yung "insanity" ni miriam, as in schizophrenic or something? sa tingin ko overplayed naman yung "insanity" niya e, parang biru-biro lang ba hehe

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    hmm.... di nga kaya? saan ba talaga ang tama or entry point ng bullet? impossible sa batok kasi awkward masyado sa tao na humawak ng gun and point it sa nape... much easier kung sa side i-point like sa temple or sa front.. like in the mouth... hmmm.... di nga kaya? sa sobra pagka-disappoint dahil sa failure ng anak nagkaroon ng heated argument na nag-end sa pagshoot sa sariling anak? hmm...

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    she wasn't called "brenda" (short for "brain damage") for nothing. remember how mirriam looked like in the hospital when, after losing the 1992 presidential elections, she was confined for, ahhh, stress?

    sabi yata sa inquirer 2 days ago, bullet entry was behind the left ear, exit through the right temple. mali daw yung unang report na sa nape ang tama. besides kung sa nape, exit will be on the forehead or face.

    so is the guy left handed? hehehehe!

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    It was reported that the gun shot was at the temple and not at the nape. Probably he could not take the stress he was in...

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    taken from PDI:

    "AR graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in political science and decided to go into law. He passed the written admission tests for both UP (University of the Philippines) and Ateneo. Ominously, the faculty panel at UP which conducted what should have been a routine interview attacked him with politically-loaded questions that must have cut him to the quick. Questions like: "What is you reaction to the charge that your mother is insane?" she recalled.

    "As AR struggled to keep his own native equanimity, a painful and cruel thing happened. Although he had passed the written exam, the faculty panel voted to refuse him admission. Maybe they did not like my politics, maybe some faculty members wanted to prove that they could hurt me. Whatever their motives, their cruelty spoke for itself. And maybe eventually it led to my son's decision to seek an honorable death in a world of incomprehensible adults who seem to thrive on hatred," Santiago said.

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    possible din...

    baka nga dahil pressured, constitutional law daw binagsak eh...

    then again, baka binaril ni miriam sa galit, tapos hindi nya matandaan... :D

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    *sigh* kung totoo yung claim ni miriam, di na ako bilib sa up law school. di dapat isinama yung political affilliation/religion/race/beliefs etc. sa pag pasok sa law school.

    yun naman na-hospital si miriam after the 1992 election, tingin ko kahit sino sa position nya ganun (o baka worse pa) ang mangyari sa kanya. did everyone here knows that based on official comelec count, FVR won over miriam by just a few thousands votes? i'm a fan on FVR but to be fair with miriam, she could have won the election had there been no rampant dagdag bawas that happened. kaya ganun nalang ang galit ni miriam kay FVR at sumama sa grupo ni erap kahit alam nyang walang alam si erap just to get back at FVR.

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    hmmm...pakiramdam ko lang medyo mabilis sobra ung press release re the suicide thing...and considering the source, di ko rin maiwasang magduda.

    personally i don't like miriam, especially after that she showed off that gun she intended to use against the arresting cops...pero sayang ung anak...sana kinausap na lang ng parents / relatives / friends, baka naavoid pa...tsk tsk

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    well for one thing, medyo risky din na sabihing "suicide" kasi di ba hindi bibigyan ng "blessing" ng simbahan ang mga nag-commit nito?

    for the Question kung totoo: we cant tell right now.

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    kaklase ko sa college si alex, although very quiet and somewhat introverted sya, mabait naman sya and maaasahan... nagulat lang talaga ako sa news na yan...

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    Grissom or Horatio?

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    Hmmm... pwede rin kaya uminom sa labas dahil sa sama ng loob then may nakabangga na ma-impluwensyang tao rin? There's a story behind it and they are trying to cover it all up.

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    Mahirap talaga kapag overachiever ang parents.

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    sa bagay, i found it pretty odd that the family announced suicide right away... diba usually hindi inaamin kung suicide?

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    Its nice to speculate all sorts of evil things on what
    happened specially after that awful performance
    of Miriam during the impeachment trials.
    But we have to remember that the suicide victim was
    her own son and I believe that this young man was much
    loved by her mother. Even a hateful person like Miriam
    doesn't deserve that much pain and grief.
    Never din naman natin nabalitaan na abusado mga
    anak ni Miriam (as compared sa mga anak ni Erap).
    They excelled in school and were actually very decent
    people. That much credit we have to give to Miriam.
    Sayang talaga yang si Miriam. She had so much potential
    but she was foolish enough to let power and ambition
    eat her up.
    Sic Transit Gloria Mundi..

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    Sabi ng isang family fren nila, di daw pumasa sa UP law ung anak ni miriam, so he decided to study in ateneo, tapos he's failing his subjects n cant tell his mom dats y he did it

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