UP losing best brains

[Steeljack]

nangkupo paktay, ano na lang natira sa peyups mga polpol na propesor, buti na lang tapos na ko dun...

The state-run University of the Philippines is losing its top-rate scientists and professors to private companies because it cannot afford to pay them higher salaries.

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[NightRock]

that's the reality...

[wulf]

lahat naman na naging professors natin dun are either nationalists or those who are after the prestige of teaching in peyups.they make money not from teaching but from research grants or consultancies/jobs outside the university.now if private companies are getting everyone to work full-time, now we really do have a problem!talo na nga sa facilities & equipment, outdated pa curriculum, now mawawalan na din ng top minds?haay,kawawang mga isko!to the streets ulit!makibaka! =p

[flakez]

ganyan talaga, sa liit ng sweldo nila talagang mapipilitan sila mgahanap ng iba. besides, ung iba naman diyan may ibang work din. ang problema nga tulad nung sabi ni wulf na pag kelangan mag full-time na sila. syempre pipiliin nila ung sa private company kasi malaki sweldo.

[Bogeyman]

Tagal nang problema yan.

Actually, even the students are not spared. Multi-national corporations offer to fund their research/theses/dissertations, with the promise of immediate and lucrative employment after graduation.

[oldblue]

d'bat ganyan din naman sa mga ivy league universities

[konde]

lahat naman na naging professors natin dun are either nationalists or those who are after the prestige of teaching in peyups.they make money not from teaching but from research grants or consultancies/jobs outside the university.now if private companies are getting everyone to work full-time, now we really do have a problem!talo na nga sa facilities & equipment, outdated pa curriculum, now mawawalan na din ng top minds?haay,kawawang mga isko!to the streets ulit!makibaka! =p

amen!

wawa naman 'UP nating mahal'.

[nugundam93]

nakupow. sana ok pa rin sa MA level...

pero this is definitely not good news.

[Alpha_One]

It isn't old news either. And it's not limited to UP; buong public educational system problema yan.

I've got enough reason to worry about that being in UP at the moment. It's not simply "dumbing down" either, for example this sem some of my batchmates didn't get a certain major because of a shortage of classes. I'm lucky to have gotten a slot on my first attempt, but even though they opened another class a week after enrolment, some were still left out.

I can't worry too much about it though. Baka ma-headline sa kule "Estudyante ng Eng'g Tinalon ang AS..."

[empy]

d'bat ganyan din naman sa mga ivy league universities

not really. tenured profs at top US universities typically make the low six figures in USD, and they also do consulting, collect money from book royalties, etc. so it's a pretty good living assuming you can spend hundreds of thousands of $$ and at least 10 years of your life getting trained.

it's a way for people who just love teaching and research to make a great living without being in the rat race or having a super-high pressure job.

my late ninang used to be a full professor at UP and she told me that there's no way you could make even a good living on a UP prof's salary - even at the highest levels. however, she also said that most professors aren't in it for the money anyway. she herself lived a very modest lifestyle.

[Kicker15]

Well ganyan talaga pero eventualy narerealize mo na its more than the money. My dad stayed in UP for more than 50 years and my mom stayed there for about 40 years. They have recieved offers form other universities and from abroad but they decided to stay with UP instead.

I'm currently working in a private company right now and i;m thinking of going back to UP to teach

[jedi]

ok lang yan, worst kung mga profs and scientists nating magagaling eh magpunta na sa ibang bansa at duon magturo... blessing pa din kahit papano kasi pinoy pa din natuturuan nila kahit papano.

[marlon22701]

...as the cliche goes "that's the way it is...."

[niky]

Ganyan naman lahat ng schools. People leave seeking greener pastures. And you really can't stop them. Just be as nice as possible and remind them that they will always have a place here.

Some of them come back. That's the best you can hope for.

[aceshark]

wawa naman UP... nung nandun ako parang ok lang yung mga prof... or pwede ring bopol lang talaga ako... iskul bukol kc...


******* kasing budjet-cut! kung san-san napupunta. leche. sigaw ulit mga isko't iska!

[niky]

Well, if the students had only allowed UP to authorize the BOT operation (build-operate-transfer) of the commercial center on that huge useless space across from UP, UPDiliman would be rolling in money... but nooooo... that's commercialization... that's bad.

Bullsh*t. Stupid activists think UP can ride the Congressional gravy train forever? Now that Congress has cut that down, all the iskos are suffering.

[4wrider]

It's a very old issue but with the economic discrepancy between UP and opportunities outside the temptation to move out for the really good ones will be greater. Let's just hope that a little pragmatism and less idealism be embraced by the forces influencing UP destiny.

[Alpha_One]

Well, if the students had only allowed UP to authorize the BOT operation (build-operate-transfer) of the commercial center on that huge useless space across from UP, UPDiliman would be rolling in money... but nooooo... that's commercialization... that's bad.

Bullsh*t. Stupid activists think UP can ride the Congressional gravy train forever? Now that Congress has cut that down, all the iskos are suffering.

QFT.

Mga gago yang mga yan, living proof that there are a lot of stupid people in UP. Konting P5 na bagong singil "Stop the commercialization! Education is a right, not a privilege, blah blah patalsikin blah blah chuva ever."

"Commercialization of education" here = new fees. Even a P0.05 one.

If UP education is so commercialized, how come it's sooooooooo difficult to get a diploma? Huh? Imbeciles.

Come to think of it, I'm in a net cafe on campus right now... someone could be looking at my shoulder at any moment. Ah, whatever!

[explorer]

surpised? kung meron ngang brain drain sa congress at malacanang...bakit naman ang UP maging exception to the rule?

[jedi]

wag naman natin sisihin ang mga isko at iska

if they allow UP to commercialize some of its area...kikita nga ng malaki ang UP, and that will give more reason for the government to CUT down the education budget...

look... education budget should always be the highest sa lahat ng pinaglalaanan ng gobyerno... pero hindi ito nangyayari... bagkus taon taon nababawasan ang budget para dito... and it will always reflect sa quality ng education na makukuha ng mga students... what more sa mas maliliit na state colleges at universities? di hamak na mas maliit budget para sa kanila compared to UP...