Is Class Discrimination Common Among Filipinos?

[_Cathy_]

Class discrimination happens in all societies but is it more pronounced among us Filipinos? I see it happen all the time: Luxury/Sports car parking anywhere and getting away with it and security guards judging people based on their looks as an example.

I just witnessed what I felt was outright discrimination in an office where people who were not well dressed were spoken to in Tagalog in a clearly condescending manner. But when it's a well dressed person they are polite and speak in English. What the hell??? It just made me cringe how the others were spoken to as if the officers has no respect for them

It's really sad how people are judged based on how they look, what they drive or how much money they have in the bank. Have you witnessed class discrimination?

[Altis6453]

I don't know if it's class discrimination or profiling.

Like it or not, Pinoys are predisposed to judging people by how they look (i.e. what they wear, what cellphones or cars they use, etc.) and react or act toward them accordingly. It's no different in other societies. Mas pronounced pa nga.

[lowslowbenz]

.... or profiling.

I would always notice this in malls. Those sales people handing out condo leaflets are one good example.

Along Daan Hari going to Alabang, one can see the "new" subdivisions of Manny Villar. Pag Vios ang dala ko, the sales agents along the side of the road do not wave their flyers. Pero pag Mercedes dala ko, kumakaway lahat ...

[1D4LV]

lots of times and we were once a victim of it.

Several years back, wifey and myself went to the Designer's Lane in Alabang Town Center because she has to buy daw a leather conditioner for her Coach bag that I have given her as a gift when i was in the States. Wifey was wearing shorts and sandals and I was wearing a plain shirt, cargo shorts and slippers and looking madungis (we just came in from a badminton game and did not shower after the game). When wifey approached a sales lady looking for a leather conditioner, she got a stare from the sales lady and asked her if she "owns" a coach bag for the product that she is looking for is specifically made for that brand of bag.

Dunno bakit napikon si wifey that time and she did not buy...

The following day, me and wifey came back from the same store. Wifey was wearing a business suit that time because she came in from a conference, while i was wearing my usual barongs because i came in from the office. The same sales lady approached us and immediately made some sales talk... Wifey mentioned that she was the one from the previous day who was looking for a leather conditioner... I've noticed that the sales lady was very helpful and even made some sales pitches kay wifey to try the other products.

Even sa Globe Sales office sa ATC is not that warm and helpful kung medyo di maayos ang suot mo (specially if you are just plain looking as us)...

In the States around 18 years ago.... I disembarked in Minneapolis airport once... Normally, I usually use LAX or SFO on my way to Minneapolis (i used to work there and go home every 10 months). Even though complete papers ako (and my working visa), the Immigration officer held me up for an hour without reason its because I look like a Filipino.. When I've talked about this to my boss, he mentioned that Immigration officers in Minneapolis are not used to seeing Filipinos using this gateway. I dunno if this has changed though now.

[chua_riwap]

dyan lang sa rustan's ATC, kung naka slippers at shorts ka lang at medyo luma na yung shirt mo, parang ayaw ka pang papasukin nung sikyu na naka-pamburol........

[monty_GTV]

common na yan among pinoys, dito lang sa forum mamatahin ka dahil probinsiyano ka. sa mga construction companies naman sa mideast, yung kategorya ng manpower ay between Expats and TCN's o third country national

[shadow]

I'm surprised that store clerks in ATC still not used to seeing mall goers dressed in "pambahay", dressed down mga Tao sa south when going to malls compared sa mga Tao sa malls sa civilization.


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[chua_riwap]

I'm surprised that store clerks in ATC still not used to seeing mall goers dressed in "pambahay", dressed down mga Tao sa south when going to malls compared sa mga Tao sa malls sa civilization.


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ang napapansin ko lang shadow sa ATC, pag mestizo/mestiza, & rich looking guys, kahit nakapambahay at slippers......walang pagdududa ang sikyo

[yebo]

I guess it depends on the establishment. Pumasok ako sa rolex store and florsheim na naka shorts, ordinary t-shirt and rubber shoes inentertain naman ako. Some maybe "owned" by really snooty people (langaw sa kalabaw, you know the type), and some are manned by people with x-ray vision who can see thru the clothes you wear and see your wallet the moment you come up the escalator.

[safeorigin]

my mother and I were shopping once for her macbook pro as her birthday gift. I went in first to the shop while she bought stuff at the pharmacy. the store clerks were looking weird at me, probably because they think I'm the "probinsyano/holdaper" type of guy and thought I couldn't afford one. They couldn't say it outright but I could tell they wanted me to leave. LOL

[dr. d]

i once heard our parish Priest sermon... "whenever you feel you are being judged or treated "in that un-enviable manner", ask yourself, is it possible, it is just a reflection of how you are making them feel at that time?"

[CVT]

i once heard our parish Priest sermon... "whenever you feel you are being judged or treated "in that un-enviable manner", ask yourself, is it possible, it is just a reflection of how you are making them feel at that time?"

The ripple in the pond, bro...

Ang mamahal naman ng mga sasakyang pinag-uusapan ninyo!!!

Heto ang Pinoy: "Huwag na huwag mong makakanti ang aking sacred ego,- at siguradong re-resbakan kita,- pa-ingles pa ang balik ko sa iyo"...


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[Wh1stl3r]

Discrimination to me shows a person's own insecurity. It's funny when sales staff turn their nose up at some people. Most of the time they can't afford what they're selling. I can't imagine people working in watch retail being able to afford say a JLC or even a Rolex. Unless they're really financially irresponsible. Tapos uuwi sakay ng jeep. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but weird for someone in that position don't you think?

I try to treat everyone the same. You never know who the person you're dealing with really is. Two of the peso billionaires I know wear sandos and slippers when they go out everyday. One gets around in a 1st gen Patrol, the other in a Miata. Wala na silang pakialam. Of course it's different if you show up grossly under dressed to a place with set dress codes. That would be rude.

No sense in trying to imagine yourself up there with some level of class of wealth and separating yourself from another. There will always be someone with more money than you.

It's annoying when you get treated badly or profiled for the way you look. But that shouldn't bother you. Just thank your stars you're not the other guy. Mas malaki problema nun.

[safeorigin]

My parents are very low key people and mingle with people regardless of their financial status BUT as much as I hate to admit it, they're bigoted when it comes to foreigners specially from the middle east, southern asia, and africa.

Just because they think foreigners couldn't understand what they're saying, they comment on their smell, skin color, etc. right in front of them.

[Jun aka Pekto]

There will always be someone with more

That's about it.

When I deal with other people, I treat them the way I want to be treated. That's been my motto since I can remember.

[[archie]]

There will always be someone with more money than you.

Yep I also agree...

That's why I hate people that always brag on they know someone or a relative of someone... Or worse is being someone.

It's just not right... Manners always matter. Well that's how I see it.

[1D4LV]

isa lang masasabi ko dito.
a person's wealth cannot be measured by the way he looks, or by the way he acts or speaks.
it can be measured by net worth. (assets - liabilities)

tignan nyo si binay.... mukha bang mayaman? assuming hindi sya VP and naka shorts and ordinary round neck shirt sya.... mapapagkamalan nyo ba syang VIP?

[jhnkvn]

Truthfully, I've never really felt it discriminated personally but I have seen it around. It's not just the Philippines as I've noticed all sorts of countries have. If I were to point out the worst, I'd probably say Hong Kong.

And when I say that I've not really felt discriminated, it's a bit of a feat since I usually under-dress. When I say under-dress, think sandos and tsinelas.. with the uber-comfy sweatpants. Somehow, this became a discussion topic in the past and it was summed up because on how I interact - the walk, talk, etc. is "different" (don't worry, I try to keep my self-ego-boosting to a minimum )

I've seen discrimination with my mom though while we were shopping at SM since talagang pangbahay usually suot niya. Yun tipong 5-year+ clothing plus a Secosana bag... until somebody sees her paying for everything with her BDO rewards card ahh.. the wonders of accumulating more points than you can spend. A TrueValue cashier once peeked at her remaining point balance tapos nahuli since she uttered an expletive out loud.. that was like a 5 minute long sermon from a very-pissed-off-mom afterwards.

[mbb144]

Yes it is! Sa hospital, kapag alam nila na mayaman grabeh ang accommodation, parang hari o rayna. Pero pag puno ka ng uling, snub ang aabotin mo. Minsan nga may napapatay dahil pinabayaan kasi walang pera.

[badkuk]

I'm surprised that store clerks in ATC still not used to seeing mall goers dressed in "pambahay", dressed down mga Tao sa south when going to malls compared sa mga Tao sa malls sa civilization.

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sir baka naman dressed down, pero lacoste yung t-shirt, Hermes yung tsinelas, etc. :D


i've never been outside of PH except Hong Kong, but i'm pretty sure that this goes on elsewhere, although maybe in varying degrees. i think our being 3rd world sorta magnifies this a bit. Wala tayong magagawa, where money is scarce, people tend to value it more. Pero mas matindi ata sa ibang lugar, e.g. India where the caste system is still strong; i think they see the lower caste as little different from slaves.


Mas takot siguro sa lawsuit sa US kaya mas PC ang approach nila; how can you not be worried about lawsuits, in a country where a robber can sue the homeowner for being injured, where a drive-through customer can sue McDonald's for getting burned by coffee, cause she placed it in her crotch while in the car? ^_^

Kwento ng uncle ko, back in the 80's, ganun ang ugali ng saleslady sa HK; they'll bad mouth or curse you in Cantonese. After hearing this, my uncle pulled out a wad of cash, counted it in front of them, sabay labas ng store :D i'm told that it's gotten better now, probably because the mainlanders are the big spenders now, and they don't always dress sosyal.