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[dr. d]

there was this middle-aged guy,
"doctor, i want to look like elvis."
"sir, i'm a doctor, not a god."

[bugsmobile]

What if cardio or ob gyne, that's scary to have a doctor na mukhang pera like yung nabanggit dito sa board na pwede naman normal pero ginawang CS!

SVD versus CS.
the possible complications can be manyfold.
i wouldn't fault the obstetrician, if he chose one over the other. i am confident he can stand by his decision.

Ako yun nag sabi nun. The OB was a a colleague/batch of my wife. That OB almost always recommends CS, even the labor room know about that. She even is even with cahoots with the secretary of walkins to route more inquiries to her, even if it's not her turn for decking. Hindi naman lahat ganun, but meron mga gahaman sa poera kahit doctor.

You mean you only pay for the medicines?

Por supuesto doc e colleagues mo yun, friends or classmates, normal na hindi magpapabayad. We're saying us non medical people that don't get charged PF by our doctors.

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may pa-yabang ako
I haven't paid PF to doctors for the past 30+ years

Ahhh same with us. I think you have an unwritten rule na not to charge fellow doctors?


Hahah na OT na tayo. From house construction to medicine field hehe.

[dr. d]

May nagdo doctor ba primary motivation is to earn money? Hindi ba dahil they want na ma maximize talino nila and or help others?

many of the plastics i talked to, have this to say:
"i want to be known as the person who. made. this. face. beautiful."
"but if i earn a sizeable sum along the way, then it's even better."

[dr. d]

Ahhh same with us. I think you have an unwritten rule na not to charge fellow doctors?

it's not a policy. it's not a rule. but i would welcome it.
i have seen many doctors not-follow it.

[_Cathy_]

you'll be surprised...
it's not as universal as one might want to assume.
... other doctors...

ini-inggit ko lang si kags.
heh heh.

maraming duktor ang hindi naniningil ng PF sa long-time pasyentes nila, or from those who hold 'respectable' positions in society...
marami ring marunong mag-tancha ng paying ability ni patient, and make the corresponding adjustments.
most folks just do not know about these.

Alam ng doctors namin wala kami masyado pambayad kaya libre PF [emoji23]

Naalala ko tuloy nung naka accidente driver namin back in the 90s and we will meet the other party to settle the case. My Dad told my Lola and myself to dress mahirap para maka tawad kami lol. It wasn't so silly after all

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[kagalingan]

doc,

Meron ako naging doctor.. Kahit bago ako sinisingiL ako once Lang kada daLawang punta. ExampLe this was earLy 2000, unang punta ko eh pinauLit Laboratory ko at gusto nya sa Laboratory ng hospitaL. Ayaw nya sa hmo affiLiated Laboratory. Sa next checkup ko to see the resuLts eh sasabihan nya secretary wag na ako singiLin. Pero duda ko may porsyento sya sa Laboratory.

Pero bading yung doctor na yun Lagi pinapatangaL shirt ko tapos magstethoscope sya pahihingahin ako tapos press nya tiyan ko tapos tinanong kung taga st beniLde ba daw ako. Sabi ko hindi ang Layo nun. Tapos pimokpok nya tuhod ko at achiLLes. PiniphysicaL test taLaga ako.

tsikoteers mga puhgee ba pag taga st beniLde???

[_Cathy_]

Ako yun nag sabi nun. The OB was a a colleague/batch of my wife. That OB almost always recommends CS, even the labor room know about that. She even is even with cahoots with the secretary of walkins to route more inquiries to her, even if it's not her turn for decking. Hindi naman lahat ganun, but meron mga gahaman sa poera kahit doctor.







Ahhh same with us. I think you have an unwritten rule na not to charge fellow doctors?


Hahah na OT na tayo. From house construction to medicine field hehe.

Ang sama ng reputation niya Those are the doctors to avoid. Grabe!

many of the plastics i talked to, have this to say:
"i want to be known as the person who. made. this. face. beautiful."
"but if i earn a sizeable sum along the way, then it's even better."

Kaya hindi mataas tingin ko sa field na yan. No shame to admit na mukha silang pera Tama nga sila kung patient nila mukhang distorted, why would people go there. Same with dentists na puro bunot at crown or veneer ang teeth ng patients kahit di naman kailangan. I'll go to a dentist na natural nice teeth ang patients

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[_Cathy_]

doc,

Meron ako naging doctor.. Kahit bago ako sinisingiL ako once Lang kada daLawang punta. ExampLe this was earLy 2000, unang punta ko eh pinauLit Laboratory ko at gusto nya sa Laboratory ng hospitaL. Ayaw nya sa hmo affiLiated Laboratory. Sa next checkup ko to see the resuLts eh sasabihan nya secretary wag na ako singiLin. Pero duda ko may porsyento sya sa Laboratory.

Pero bading yung doctor na yun Lagi pinapatangaL shirt ko tapos magstethoscope sya pahihingahin ako tapos press nya tiyan ko tapos tinanong kung taga st beniLde ba daw ako. Sabi ko hindi ang Layo nun. Tapos pimokpok nya tuhod ko at achiLLes.

tsikoteers mga puhgee ba pag taga st beniLde???

Ask mo si shadow [emoji23]

Naalala ko yung friend ko sa APE yung sa prostate check, he told me feeling niya bading yung dr at na harrass siya. Naniniwala ako kasi kaming mga babae ramdam namin pag hinawakan kami ng may malice

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[dr. d]

doc,

Meron ako naging doctor.. Kahit bago ako sinisingiL ako once Lang kada daLawang punta. ExampLe this was earLy 2000, unang punta ko eh pinauLit Laboratory ko at gusto nya sa Laboratory ng hospitaL. Ayaw nya sa hmo affiLiated Laboratory. Sa next checkup ko to see the resuLts eh sasabihan nya secretary wag na ako singiLin. Pero duda ko may porsyento sya sa Laboratory.

would you feel comfortable with a doctor whose reputation you are not aware of?

it's the same with laboratories.
they might think that not all laboratories are equal. some might be more equal than others.

[dr. d]

Ang sama ng reputation niya Those are the doctors to avoid. Grabe!

Kaya hindi mataas tingin ko sa field na yan. No shame to admit na mukha silang pera Tama nga sila kung patient nila mukhang distorted, why would people go there.
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plastic surgery for beautification purposes, is considered a luxury. hence the luxury pricing.
i do not think philhealth covers for beauty surgery, either.

plastic surgery for restoration to anatomic and physiologic acceptability...
hindi na luxury yan. iba pricing niyan. may philhealth coverage yan.

but why are we posting these in the house construction thread?
ah yess... it started in posts # 335 and 336...

[_Cathy_]

plastic surgery for beautification purposes, is considered a luxury. hence the luxury pricing.
i do not think philhealth covers for beauty surgery, either.

plastic surgery for restoration to anatomic and physiologic acceptability...
hindi na luxury yan. iba pricing niyan. may philhealth coverage yan.

but why are we posting these in the house construction thread?
ah yess... it started in posts # 335 and 336...

doc, I explained several times already, price/money is not the issue. Ang issue may mga plastic surgeon na distorted na mukha or katawan ng mga patient nila sa dami ng retoke pero oo pa rin ng oo kasi pera, whether mura or mahal yan.

Example, yung dentist ko na HINDI mukhang pera. I told him I wanted veneers and he REFUSED (kasi nga it will ruin the natural teeth) Even with braces, he said no need. He could have made money from that. A decent plastic surgeon would tell the truth even if it means losing money.

[dr. d]

doc, I explained several times already, price/money is not the issue. Ang issue may mga plastic surgeon na distorted na mukha or katawan ng mga patient nila sa dami ng retoke pero oo pa rin ng oo kasi pera, whether mura or mahal yan.

Example, yung dentist ko na HINDI mukhang pera. I told him I wanted veneers and he REFUSED (kasi nga it will ruin the natural teeth) Even with braces, he said no need. He could have made money from that. A decent plastic surgeon would tell the truth even if it means losing money.

we really do not know what happens inside the surgeon's clinic office.

[_Cathy_]

we really do not know what happens inside the surgeon's clinic office.

Are you defending these unscrupolous doctors? [emoji15] Because they do exist. Decent doctors will not allow a patient to look like that. Distorted faces na





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[dr. d]

Are you defending these unscrupolous doctors? [emoji15] Because they do exist. Decent doctors will not allow a patient to look like that. Distorted faces na





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you're assuming it was the doctor's decision all along.
what if it ain't?

[_Cathy_]

you're assuming it was the doctor's decision all along.
what if it ain't?

Huh??? You don't get my point. We are going in circles.

Decision ng patient pero sino nag opera? Hindi naman lalaki bibig nyan kung walang doctor na PUMAYAG na operahin yan

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[ray_noel]

Huh??? You don't get my point. We are going in circles.

Decision ng patient pero sino nag opera? Hindi naman lalaki bibig nyan kung walang doctor na PUMAYAG na operahin yan

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Ms cath, i think meron din mga tao na kahit sinabi na ng doctor this and that, go pa rin sila…

Yung mga ricey cars, kahit ano sasabihin they will just tell you my car my rule… same goes yata sa mga mapiliy na patients when it comes to plastic surgeon… yung mga nagrereklamo sa output yun yung mga napaniwala ng doctor na you’ll become princess from frog after the procedure…


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[ray_noel]

Tsaka yung close family relative ko na hospital sa makati med, when they saw the bill ang daming discrepancies, double/triple charges or wrong input items… 30k up ang price…. Pag hindi nila ito na review ang laki ng napera hospital…

Yung mga doctor din, daming lapses sa procedure when being asked sa nanay na e.r nurse sa u.s hospital… mga before and after checklist procedure na sana makatulong na bypass nila… ang ending si patient ang nag suffer…

As simple as, Icu patient pero nagka bedsore pa rin… and worse as no xray before and after that causes cardiac arrest….


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[_Cathy_]

Ms cath, i think meron din mga tao na kahit sinabi na ng doctor this and that, go pa rin sila…

Yung mga ricey cars, kahit ano sasabihin they will just tell you my car my rule… same goes yata sa mga mapiliy na patients when it comes to plastic surgeon… yung mga nagrereklamo sa output yun yung mga napaniwala ng doctor na you’ll become princess from frog after the procedure…


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if the doctor refuses wala silang magagawa. Again, kung matino ang doctor, sasabihin nila kung hindi na maganda even if it will cost them money. Hindi lang yan limited sa doctor pati sa dentist, interior designer, salon stylist, car shop etc.

[kagalingan]

yung sinasabi ni cathey mangibabaw ang PANININDIGAN meron VALUES sa profession.

but as any trabaho... its the Love of monay

[_Cathy_]

yung sinasabi ni cathey mangibabaw ang PANININDIGAN meron VALUES sa profession.

but as any trabaho... its the Love of monay

EXACTLY. Thank you kags! Someone gets me.

Pinakadelikado ang doctor na mukhang pera dahil health ng tao ang consequence.