CFC Split over GK

[Horsepower]

Eh yun naman puro take from the members ang operation nun eh.

kaya nga sobrang yaman na ni Mike Velarde. hehe

[O!lman]

Pa CFC CFC pa kasi sila, mga nagmamalinis lng mga tao halos dun. Thank God I never wanted to take part on that eversince I was a kid.

Dapat nila itawag sa kanila Corruption From Christ. Kala mo mga santo eh parepareho lang naman tayong mga tao dito.

Hindi lahat ng CFC member ay corrupt. Look at yourself first before you condemn Others!

watch your words sir, kung wala kang masabing maganda ay tumahimik ka na lang!

[6shooter]

Sigurado po ako na di lahat ng CFC ganito. Pero meron isang ka-industriya namin na taga CFC na tuwing meeting inuumpisa sa dasal. payo niya good family values. sa gabi nanghahala siya ng mga batang lalake. at na-sibak siya sa dekada 90 sa dati niyang trabaho dahil kumupit siya ng 2m. Di nakasuhan. At the whole time CFC pa rin siya. At tulad ng sinabi ko, di naman ata lahat ng miyembro nila ganito. Iba kasi sa outer space.

[Lucius]

Hindi lahat ng CFC member ay corrupt. Look at yourself first before you condemn Others!

watch your words sir, kung wala kang masabing maganda ay tumahimik ka na lang!

Pasensya na sir

[6shooter]

tama po ang sinabi ng isang poster. tao lang sila. minsan nga po ang mga alagad ng simbahan po ang mismong nagkakasala ng masama. kaya nakakadismaya. lalo na kasi sinasabi nila na maka diyos sila. dati po sa U.P. diliman may pare na nakabuntis ng dalawang beses. At dalawang beses pinalaglag sa babae. babae mismo ang nag kwento at ngayon anti-abortion activist siya dahil dun. ang pare masama ang tingin natin sa kanya pero may iba naman diyan na nakaka buntis at pinalalaglag. okay lang sa lipunan.

anu ang tingin niyo sa mga alagad ng simbahan? santo nga ba o mga tao na nagpapanggap na santo o mga ordinaryong tao sa gawain di ordinaryo?

[CVT]

I am not a member of GK nor CFC. However, our company has donated to the GK cause and we have participated in some of the house/community-building projects of this commendable organization.

The way I understand it, GK can stand on its own. It's mission and vision should carry it through this crisis. There are a lot of civic-conscious organizations who can guide GK to the next phase/level. Nation-builders should not abandon this worthy cause.

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[Isuzoom]

sa mga nag break-away....join kayo sa amin and we will build an ark.

[mazdamazda]

Guys, just a warning... don't turn this into a CFC bashing thread. :police:

[wakin]

[QUOTE=centum;890738]Hindi lahat ng CFC member ay corrupt. Look at yourself first before you condemn Others!

watch your words sir QUOTE]

+ 1 on this. sa mga nagco condemn, pls do not generalize. you do not know personally who these people are. no organization are near to perfection.

[torque2006]

Eh yun naman puro take from the members ang operation nun eh.

kaya nga sobrang yaman na ni Mike Velarde. hehe

ohoy! i know where he lives... *ubo* ayala alabang *ubo* *ubo* 1,000 hectare property *ubo* *ubo* anak nya ang financial officer ng el shaddai *ubo*

[prinsipe]

Guys, just a warning... don't turn this into a CFC bashing thread. :police:

makinig kayo kay Mazdamazda.

crab mentality - you can clearly see it in this thread. kanya-kanyang hatak pababa sa CFC/GK. kahit di alam ang lahat ng detalye sa issue at hand.

anyway, i support Boo Chanco's stand on this issue.

[ogpro]

Guys, just a warning... don't turn this into a CFC bashing thread. :police:

thanks M2.

[MAXBUWAYA]

I was a member of YFC during my teen years.

Lots of Praying while making starnge sounds for activity hehehehe
Lots of girls by the way (Raging hormone at that time)
Lots of wierdos too hehehe

But a lot of charity work which I like.

Now that am married, many people are inviting us to join. hmmmm
maybe some other time

[badsekktor]

IMO it doesnt matter.... as long as they still help the needy..... I have been exposed to ngo's and I can say that they are not as clean as you would think. but as long as they help those who need help, they would still get my respect....

[ownertype]

I am an active member of CFC and this thread is not right venue for you to rant your bad experience with CFC members. It's also unfair to generalize members or the CFC community based on these experiences and encounters. All of us are a work in progress in terms of transforming ourselves to be better Christians and be Christ like.

I am very sadenned with the split-up and right now my wife and I have not yet decided if we will stay with current CFC or move to the CFC FFL. The issues raised by Frank Padilla are very valid. In GK, we're at the mercy of the benefactors. Ika nga Beggars cannot choose. Na compromise na talaga yung original mission ng GK not just to build houses but to build HOMES. Right now mas concerned yung to generate funds, get more donors to build these houses and less empahsis on the values formation to the family and the community where these houses are being built. This can be actually resolved within CFC. Lahat naman ng bagay napgauusapan and nagagawan ng paraan. Unfortunately di talaga magkaroon ng agreement yung current council and Frank's group. The bishops have arbitrated these unification effort but still in the end they decided that it's better to separate ways for the meantime.

I am appealing to everybody to please continue supporting and believing in Gawad Kalinga.

[niky]

Personally, I'd side with the group staying with Gawad Kalinga.

Tama nga, napapag-usapan yun.

Frank's group may not agree with the position of some of the benefactors of Gawad Kalinga, vis a vis artificial family planning, and they may not agree with the emphasis on social focus rather than spiritual, but:

A spiritual life not lived for others does not seem the Christ-like thing to do.

If evangelization is important to them, can't they wait? The GK project is a good way to build communities... and by supporting that community and strengthening it, they provide themselves with opportunities for further evangelization in the future.

In other words, stay in and strengthen ties with the growing community.

Patience lang yun... and priorities. The end justifies the means, personally. It's not a compromise of principles, since the anti-artificial contraceptive thing is more dogma than actual Christian doctrine (if recreational *** is so bad, then natural contraception should also be banned)... and if they cannot let go of that belief or hold the good work they're doing with GK as more important than that, then... sayang.

[kinyo]

sabi nila "kahit saang gubat, meron ahas"

ang sabi ko naman "kapag bilyones na ang usapan, sali ako dyan!"

[theveed]

hehe... no comment nalang from a guy like me... but i'm not surprised at all.

[Galactus]

Para walang away, ako na lang ang magvo-volunteer na mag-manage ng mga donations. I'm also a devout Catholic, and please believe me, I'll take good care of it!

[6shooter]

agree po ako sa post na nag sabi na sang ayon siya sa panig ng GK. Mas "pressing issue" ang kahirapan ng mga kapwa natin Pilipino. Aanhin ang relihiyon kung iisipin mga problema kung saan titira. Kaya mas maiigi unahin ang mga mabuting gawa kaysa sa mga evangelize. "Maslows heirarchy of needs" ata yun.